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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: RotBaron on June 08, 2025, 04:59:43 AM
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Sort of on the same topic as my other thread about the FW190-D at high altitude bomber hunting but in the Ta-152. I remember long ago learning from Snailman (iirc) that there is really no achievable altitude in which B-17’s are safe from it. If someone would please let 99Capera know about the characteristics that’d be great, he refuses to believe me that it performs as such.
It certainly didn’t climb to 34K without some effort and time, it took ~25 minutes and turning up there is difficult. At 2.5K in front of his bombers I couldn’t swing the nose around fast enough to get a frontal shot, maybe if I had used flaps when I initiated the turn instead of late (45>degs) into the turn?
Anyhow it performs really very well up there with those huge wings and can glide forever if you get oiled. If someone is patient enough to get B-29’s higher, like 38K or more I can’t speak for it, a few of you are the real experts on it.
:salute
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Everytime Crapera complains HiTech deletes a sheep.
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It certainly didn’t climb to 34K without some effort and time, it took ~25 minutes and turning up there is difficult. At 2.5K in front of his bombers I couldn’t swing the nose around fast enough to get a frontal shot, maybe if I had used flaps when I initiated the turn instead of late (45>degs) into the turn?
Anyhow it performs really very well up there with those huge wings and can glide forever if you get oiled. If someone is patient enough to get B-29’s higher, like 38K or more I can’t speak for it, a few of you are the real experts on it.
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I watched you climb effortlessly from about 10K to 34K. You then levelled out beside me, and then extended out in front of me.
Been in the sim 25 years and most of that time in bombers, and what your plane did today was not normal. Once I have visual range on you, you were waaaaaaay down there. approx 10K,,, Then in a matter of 1 min, he magically floats upwards to my alt of 34k. So save you BS about 25 min to get up to me.
And....he still died.
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You said you recorded it, post the video and prove me wrong.
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Everytime Crapera complains HiTech deletes a sheep.
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Not a complaint....an observation.
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Crapera you don't even know how DARBAR works
and complain... I mean observe of course... that your buffs get tracked via darbar, slowly going 1 sector slowly across the map towards a strat
and then subsequently spotted by a defending 262 (me). Yes I still remember it.
You've no credibility around these here parts by gum.
A Whine was recorded, HiTech, smite that fluffy ewe.
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We got 152s in an FSO a while back, an 8th AF event and the Allies had some JugMs. For giggles we took our 152s to 40k and had a quick laugh when we towered over the JugMs at 35k or so.
I always find it interesting the people who accuse others of cheating don't provide the proof. Burden of proof rests on the claimant.
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Crapera you don't even know how DARBAR works
and complain... I mean observe of course... that your buffs get tracked via darbar, slowly going 1 sector slowly across the map towards a strat
and then subsequently spotted by a defending 262 (me). Yes I still remember it.
You've no credibility around these here parts by gum.
A Whine was recorded, HiTech, smite that fluffy ewe.
The MO as most in here. Jump on everyone that posts and never have anything productive or good to say.
Next time....how about if you have nothing good to say, just shut your pie hole.
Have a nice day. :aok
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We got 152s in an FSO a while back, an 8th AF event and the Allies had some JugMs. For giggles we took our 152s to 40k and had a quick laugh when we towered over the JugMs at 35k or so.
I always find it interesting the people who accuse others of cheating don't provide the proof. Burden of proof rests on the claimant.
I understand how a 152 works. 49Hack trained me. You cannot climb as fast as RotBaron did today, and if I am wrong....he can post the film. He told me he has the film and that he was coming here to post. Where is the film?
What I seen this morning was not the normal climb rate of a 152, or any other plane for that matter. Apparently, there is a website out there that is showing people how to modify planes in AH. Another pilot in the game was telling me about it, so if that website exists....you can rest assured that "some" in here will gravitate towards using it.
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The MO as most in here. Jump on everyone that posts and never have anything productive or good to say.
Next time....how about if you have nothing good to say, just shut your pie hole.
Have a nice day. :aok
Pot this is kettle, colour check send
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I saw clear hacking in Halo3 Master Cheif Collection yesterday. Where this guy was flying all over the map, which is impossible in that game. Genuine scum of the earth those aholes. IMO, anyone caught should be sued and punished in court of law.
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Always amusing how the people constantly screeching about cheats never ever have any evidence of it despite knowing about the film system and playing the same damn game for 20 years.
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Probaly at least once a session I point a TA toward where I want to go from about two to three sectors away. Then I put it on auto climb and go do something else for 10-15 minutes. It’s always at 20k or above and if I forget to get back in time I often find myself at 40k. That thing can zoom up. There are downsides but it can really make a mess of things way up there.
I use it to chase the Dweed group every so often. It really climbs well the higher it goes and it can pick up speed in a blink above 35K. The only things to watch out for are that you can compress it at 225 mph if you’re not careful and you can wing over into a flat spin if you’re not paying attention to your speed turning so high up.
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Always amusing how the people constantly screeching about cheats never ever have any evidence of it despite knowing about the film system and playing the same damn game for 20 years.
Well.... it was RotBaron that initiated this post. I personally didn't record it, but RotBaron did. He said he was going to post the film.....and I challenge him to do it.
Does that work for you?
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Stop putting words in my mouth. I said I have films.
The film I said I’d post is about you claiming I cheated, which I longer have to do.
You put words in my mouth all over your “long awaited duel”… I never agreed to anything, you however agreed to much on my behalf.
Stop, you obviously don’t understand the Ta-152’s high alt characteristics. When is the last time you flew one at 34K?
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Always amusing how the people constantly screeching about cheats never ever have any evidence of it despite knowing about the film system and playing the same damn game for 20 years.
Yup.
I have my doubts that anything in AH the air these days is very questionable.
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I watched you climb effortlessly from about 10K to 34K. You then levelled out beside me, and then extended out in front of me.
Been in the sim 25 years and most of that time in bombers, and what your plane did today was not normal. Once I have visual range on you, you were waaaaaaay down there. approx 10K,,, Then in a matter of 1 min, he magically floats upwards to my alt of 34k. So save you BS about 25 min to get up to me.
And....he still died.
Lol, so Bluenote and I both did this as he shot you first, or was it just me that has wizardry?
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Yup.
I have my doubts that anything in AH the air these days is very questionable.
To clarify I’d imagine those trying anything are likely few and far between; those successful at it probably aren’t for very long. These reasons is why I started this thread: https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,411075.0.html
On that subject I’m filming everything to find an answer(s) but remaining on this topic, many in-game tonight spoke of all the impressive things the Ta-152 does at 36K, 38K, 40K even 42K.
Idk what to say to the “effortlessly climbing” part, cap. Shift+X really is… I watched almost half an episode of Air Wars (Prime Video), thus the ~25mins in auto-climb with minor direction changes relative to your changes visible on dar until I came into icon range.
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You're currently chat muted.
YOU posted this thread looking for some kind of support/sympathy.
I know the 152 and how it flies and what you did yesterday was just not right. Flew it all last night, climbing up to 30+K, and my TA152 took time to get up to that alt, unlike the display you put on.
You have zero integrity. I think the proper term is pathological liar. You switched countries and told me vox that you had the film. You claim all the time that you record everything. So come on BIG boy, put up the video. But....you won't because then everyone will see what I seen.
Seems every time I encounter you, you are doing something off....stinky. You could not even show up to a duel in the same AC. You showed up with your 109K4 against the agreed duelling aircraft of Spit 1's.
My contribution to this conversation is over with you RotBaron, in and now out of game as well.
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Bombers that fly high never look up or they would see me coming in from 40K in a spit 9.
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152 is a beast at high alt.
1 sector of flight will usually put me at least 20k and I have it up to 39k.
I have not been too familiar but the Jug M is very comparable
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Next is p47d11 at 40k.
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You're currently chat muted.
YOU posted this thread looking for some kind of support/sympathy.
I know the 152 and how it flies and what you did yesterday was just not right. Flew it all last night, climbing up to 30+K, and my TA152 took time to get up to that alt, unlike the display you put on.
You have zero integrity. I think the proper term is pathological liar. You switched countries and told me vox that you had the film. You claim all the time that you record everything. So come on BIG boy, put up the video. But....you won't because then everyone will see what I seen.
Seems every time I encounter you, you are doing something off....stinky. You could not even show up to a duel in the same AC. You showed up with your 109K4 against the agreed duelling aircraft of Spit 1's.
My contribution to this conversation is over with you RotBaron, in and now out of game as well.
Wow.
What does my in-game text mute have to do with anything :headscratch:
I posted this thread to correct your accusations of which are now at 6-7, 3x in your last post and least 3 on Ch 200 where I can not reply currently. That is precisely one of the reasons I started this thread, to address your accusations about me, but that wasn’t all, there’s a lot I gad completely forgotten about it since I hadn’t flown it in so long.
I guess as they say in this game, take it as a compliment.
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You all cheat.... :neener:
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I don’t use WEP in the ta152 or spit XIV until I’m within icon range of a target.
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I don’t use WEP in the ta152 or spit XIV until I’m within icon range of a target.
What does this accomplish, saving fuel?
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40K ... :rolleyes:
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I know the 152 and how it flies
Apparently you do NOT
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40K ... :rolleyes:
Exactly..takes all I can do to get to 10k before I want to shoot something...
Must not have much else to do if you can take the time to climb that high each sortie..
I usually only have 1 hour and I don't want to spend 70% of it climbing to altitude..
Eagler
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Might have time for a shower or to cook dinner on that climb out.
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What does this accomplish, saving fuel?
In the Spit XIV it conserves your WEP for combat, because you only have 10 minutes of it total, can use it continuously only for 5 minutes at a time and needs a cooldown time of 17 minutes.
In the Ta on the other hand, such conservation isn't necessary. You have 40(!) minutes of total WEP time, 10 minutes continuous use, with only 5 minutes cooldown. I always used WEP right from the start for the climbout.
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In the Spit XIV it conserves your WEP for combat, because you only have 10 minutes of it total, can use it continuously only for 5 minutes at a time and needs a cooldown time of 17 minutes.
In the Ta on the other hand, such conservation isn't necessary. You have 40(!) minutes of total WEP time, 10 minutes continuous use, with only 5 minutes cooldown. I always used WEP right from the start for the climbout.
It's not necessary to conserve in the Ta but IMO there's a bit to be said for not using WEP in the beginning.
Personally, if I'm spending a lazy afternoon/evening patrolling for bombers that are making strat runs at ludicrous alt, I sometimes climb to 15-20k without WEP before turning it on.
It's been years since I was doing it habitually, but I wasn't fond of having it recharge at whatever alt you get to if you WEP from the ground. I liked having more WEP available at alt before it needed to recharge rather than burning WEP at lower alt where the non-WEP climb rate was still decent. Climbing without WEP up to 10k didn't feel like it lost as much as having WEP not available in the 20-30k range.
IE- It felt like I got more benefit out of not having as much downtime as I got up to alt and was trying to get up to speed. YMMV of course.
If the situation is a bomber at 20kish, then it's time to WEP all the way from the ground obviously.
Once I'm up to speed at alt ish I would turn it off.
You've got to work at it to run a Ta out of WEP in a sortie though.
Wiley.
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Hmmmm so that may be what I am doing wrong. I usually WEP all the way into the trees.
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Apparently you do NOT
I asked him how our AH 152 engine is cooled, he said “I don’t care.” :uhoh
For someone that was “taught” 190’s and the 152, they sure left out important info.
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In the Spit XIV it conserves your WEP for combat, because you only have 10 minutes of it total, can use it continuously only for 5 minutes at a time and needs a cooldown time of 17 minutes.
In the Ta on the other hand, such conservation isn't necessary. You have 40(!) minutes of total WEP time, 10 minutes continuous use, with only 5 minutes cooldown. I always used WEP right from the start for the climbout.
40 mins! Good to know.
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In the Spit XIV it conserves your WEP for combat, because you only have 10 minutes of it total, can use it continuously only for 5 minutes at a time and needs a cooldown time of 17 minutes.
In the Ta on the other hand, such conservation isn't necessary. You have 40(!) minutes of total WEP time, 10 minutes continuous use, with only 5 minutes cooldown. I always used WEP right from the start for the climbout.
But wait! There's more!
I dunno who to credit this info to :noid, but... :salute :banana: :bolt:
(https://i.postimg.cc/nrHnPKsw/ahwep.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0MBg6w0p)
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Obviously my sorties are never long enough to run out of wep in the 109 lol..
Eagler
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I asked him how our AH 152 engine is cooled, he said “I don’t care.” :uhoh
For someone that was “taught” 190’s and the 152, they sure left out important info.
Hey RotBaron, let’s be real for a second. Aces High is a sim—it’s a game. We’re not cracking open tech manuals or pulling engines in a hangar here. Getting caught up in the FW-152’s cooling system like it actually matters in this context? :O
As for aircraft maintenance—I’m retired now after 30 years turning wrenches on P-3 Orions. I’ve been elbow-deep in airframes that don’t get a second chance when something fails. Those days are behind me.
I get your passion for aircraft—most of us in here share that. But let’s be honest: you’re a nurse by profession. You’ve got no hands-on experience with aircraft maintenance, and that’s fine. Just understand that trying to link my working knowledge of real-world airframes to the cooling system of a fictional 152 in a flight sim doesn’t really track. It has no bearing on the gameplay or the conversation.
But hey—if you ever want to talk P-3 systems or real-world airframe mechanics, I’m sure I can answer your questions. If I cannot, I know "how" to find them.
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As for aircraft maintenance—I’m retired now after 30 years turning wrenches on P-3 Orions. I’ve been elbow-deep in airframes that don’t get a second chance when something fails. Those days are behind me.
I did a few years on P3s too before transferring to S3s and then AIMD.
We're so old that I think they're both in museums now lolz
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I did a few years on P3s too before transferring to S3s and then AIMD.
We're so old that I think they're both in museums now lolz
I think you are right. Most are in the graveyard or mounted on a pedestal. Great aircraft to work on.
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The "Lockheed Electra" was an awesome airplane, iirc that was the civilian version of the P-3. When I got to Alaska in 71, Reeves Aleutian Airlines was flying a bunch of the Electa's.
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The "Lockheed Electra" was an awesome airplane, iirc that was the civilian version of the P-3. When I got to Alaska in 71, Reeves Aleutian Airlines was flying a bunch of the Electa's.
Wow. I was 1 year old until the end November 71. I don't feel so old now!
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Wow. I was 1 year old until the end November 71. I don't feel so old now!
:rofl :rofl, KIDS!! :cheers:
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I could teach you guys how to get the most fuel efficiency and high altitude speed but it just seems more fun to hear the complaints from people who believed they were safe from interception even though at least half of the planeset is capable intercepting any bomber at any altitude.
I’ve never seen any of the complainers of hackery in my many hours testing of planes in the training arena.
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I could teach you guys how to get the most fuel efficiency and high altitude speed but it just seems more fun to hear the complaints from people who believed they were safe from interception even though at least half of the planeset is capable intercepting any bomber at any altitude.
I’ve never seen any of the complainers of hackery in my many hours testing of planes in the training arena.
Always chiming in....never a good thing to say. Every hear the saying. "If you have nothing good to say, ....." :O
The issues was not the alt of the 152 and it's performace up there. The issue was he floated up from 10K to 34K....effortlessly. I had a P47 (bluenote) climbing to me and was visible. Then Rotbaron's 152 comes into visual range, below the P47......and guess what? He was able to float up off my r/h wing.......then proceed to pull ahead of my bombers, before bluenote could even reach my buffs.
What I seen was not natural. Unfortunately I do not have the film. but Rotbaron does. He refuses to post it, as he says that is my responsibility. I've asked him several times to post it. He refuses.
Integrity is rare these days, in the MA.
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I got my A&P in 1984 and worked on super constellations and a C46 among other planes in “corrosion corner” at MIA while attending eastern airline pilot entry program that had me shooting approaches at “dade/collier training and transition” (everglades jetport)………until eastern airlines employees went on strike and effectively ended their own careers and my own path to ATP.
On a side note, that airstrip may become a prison soon.
My last two “careers” had me running Blue Streak america where we tested and rebuilt electronic control units for cars.
I worked on the side fabricating and designing systems for the fastest street driven cars on the planet and testing aerodynamic packages at KSC’s shuttle landing facility after we list access to everglades jetport.
I met the future owner of N13HP (sea fury and with 3350) during an event at everglades jetport and found some interest when I proposed modern engine management and data logging but he crashed on his second flight.
My life experience has always been about getting the most out of a vehicle and I spend a lot of time in the training arena to get better climb, speed, and fuel economy than people who haven’t spent the time doing so.
Experience also tells me that HTCs modeling of aircraft performance is exceptional and surely represents huge amounts of work and research to arrive where the sim is now.
If the modeling here wasn’t accurate, then I wouldn’t be able to enjoy better speed and economy at the same time to the point that people complain.
Keep upping those bombers and you will eventually find an I16 at 30k feet making a single guns pass on you.
Plane performance is one thing but flying a proper intercept is something rare in the arenas.
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Hey RotBaron, let’s be real for a second. Aces High is a sim—it’s a game. We’re not cracking open tech manuals or pulling engines in a hangar here. Getting caught up in the FW-152’s cooling system like it actually matters in this context? :O
As for aircraft maintenance—I’m retired now after 30 years turning wrenches on P-3 Orions. I’ve been elbow-deep in airframes that don’t get a second chance when something fails. Those days are behind me.
I get your passion for aircraft—most of us in here share that. But let’s be honest: you’re a nurse by profession. You’ve got no hands-on experience with aircraft maintenance, and that’s fine. Just understand that trying to link my working knowledge of real-world airframes to the cooling system of a fictional 152 in a flight sim doesn’t really track. It has no bearing on the gameplay or the conversation.
But hey—if you ever want to talk P-3 systems or real-world airframe mechanics, I’m sure I can answer your questions. If I cannot, I know "how" to find them.
Stop pretending in here that you show this kind of civility and rational behavior towards me and many in the MA about this and other topics. Once we’re there, we can begin a normal conversation but this looks nothing like the interaction we have in the MA. if you had, we’d have this over long ago. Ask Bluenote for yourself, I began chasing your bombers long before he did. I upped from a different base at least a sector behind from where he did, he just took a more aggressive line to you and attacked from your 6, I went on ahead of you trying to get in front and above. I even asked him to coordinate our attacks but he didn’t answer and apparently wanted to get to you first.
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i once shot down a 163 at 27k with a brewster.
in AH, anything is possible!
on a side note, htc definitely handles cheaters when he sees them. we just dont hear about it. rocketshipping isnt about cheats so much as good manipulation of the games mechanics. its a simucade game, not a true simulator. if it was, the 109 wouldnt be so fast under 15k without burning out its motor. take it for what it is and just try to have fun with it.
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i once shot down a 163 at 27k with a brewster.
in AH, anything is possible!
on a side note, htc definitely handles cheaters when he sees them. we just dont hear about it. rocketshipping isnt about cheats so much as good manipulation of the games mechanics. its a simucade game, not a true simulator. if it was, the 109 wouldnt be so fast under 15k without burning out its motor. take it for what it is and just try to have fun with it.
I think Icepac said yesterday, that he once shot down my 163 with a Zero at 36k.
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I think Icepac said yesterday, that he once shot down my 163 with a Zero at 36k.
juicy, juicy perk points. if ive got the gas, ill stick around in the brewster until the bitter end. jet fights are some of the most fun in the game. completely different style than prop fights. i guess theres a reason im so addicted to the game :cool:
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I'm pretty sure I got it backwards and lost that one to snuggie but I did a bunch of these 163 hunts when filming the high altitude bug with the new A6M3.
I'm just glad to see him back.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/5028/5888520241_2cc03a88cd_c.jpg)