Sure wish this was a soccer match and not the possible start of WW3..
Eagler
Well, the agreement they want now is what they tore up. It’s hard for me to imagine how that didn’t set this in motion. It was predictable at that point, it was just up to time. IMO.
Hopefully this will rid the current Iran regime. This should have been done in the 80s. Or when the deal was torn up, not doing it just encouraged this to peak.
Either way, I didn’t lose sleep. It is what it is. Maybe for the better.
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: AKIron on June 13, 2025, 10:08:33 AM
If they had just hit some facilities that's one thing.
Imagine if Iran snuck bombed the US and took out the Joint Chiefs of Staff?
Iran would cease to exist 18 minutes later... You can be sure that the US has pre-targeted ICBMs, land based and submarine based. Moreover, Israel, the #4 nuclear power on earth, estimated to have twice the warheads of Britain and France combined, has nukes targeted. Iran gave everyone trying to convince them to abandon nukes, the middle finger. They promised to use nuclear weapons to destroy Israel. As it is Iran will be teetering on revolution... Iranians want to be part of the world, not isolated by the world. Not persecuted by their extremist Islamic government.
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: Widewing on June 13, 2025, 11:06:42 AM
Salami is dead, and that's no baloney. (https://scontent.ftpa1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/506533111_10238445510181929_2933218852963466913_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=Ns6mLvquRjMQ7kNvwHTztvJ&_nc_oc=Adlyan4jhcwrWqdnKAGWMDkfGDdoCGRi11VM36GQF-LibnjSuIKow973vMyY23mNEaVW7UXyqbhLJkgfgSF-oIZo&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.ftpa1-2.fna&_nc_gid=gQ6wfTcOxHSJv5oNTLUYQQ&oh=00_AfPfdK6uqiPHwWM3sZP3c924ZKsrFGTshp1cFz-Z7SZcKw&oe=68522E2C)
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: Busher on June 13, 2025, 11:07:40 AM
Iran would cease to exist 18 minutes later... You can be sure that the US has pre-targeted ICBMs, land based and submarine based. Moreover, Israel, the #4 nuclear power on earth, estimated to have twice the warheads of Britain and France combined, has nukes targeted. Iran gave everyone trying to convince them to abandon nukes, the middle finger. They promised to use nuclear weapons to destroy Israel. As it is Iran will be teetering on revolution... Iranians want to be part of the world, not isolated by the world. Not persecuted by their extremist Islamic government.
Oh goodie... the gift that everyone gets to share. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: JimmyD3 on June 13, 2025, 11:24:50 AM
Oh goodie... the gift that everyone gets to share. :rolleyes:
What ever....... :neener:
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 13, 2025, 11:50:17 AM
Iran needs to be dealt with. So many middle eastern countries are finally starting to come out of the middle ages and then you have Iran... with the Devil on the flag... while Isreal may have some other issues we need to straighten out. They still are far better than Islamic theocratic regimes.
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: CptTrips on June 13, 2025, 12:00:03 PM
I'm no fan of Iran. I'm just cautioning everyone to understand this is above the normal tit-for-tat posturing.
I'd imagine they'd take it asymmetrical.
Assassinations, terrorist attacks, attacks by proxies, nothing that will be easy to pin directly on them to justify a full response. They will eventually lose, but it won't be as clean as an invasion of Grenada.
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: Busher on June 13, 2025, 12:40:05 PM
They still are far better than Islamic theocratic regimes.
Now where did I see this... can't quite place it ... "no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: AKIron on June 13, 2025, 12:50:27 PM
Just saw a report, no idea if true, that Iran's ballistic missiles were failing immediately after launch. Someone called it Pager Op 2.
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: AKIron on June 13, 2025, 01:21:47 PM
Was just watching interceptions of ballistic missiles over Tel Aviv so the previous report may not have been true. Or not all true. I think oil producing sites in the Persian Gulf just became targets. Gas prices going up.
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: JimmyD3 on June 13, 2025, 01:42:49 PM
Was just watching interceptions of ballistic missiles over Tel Aviv so the previous report may not have been true. Or not all true. I think oil producing sites in the Persian Gulf just became targets. Gas prices going up.
They don’t have to be a target for pricing change. The markets see anything happening in the ME as reason to raise them. If you burp in the ME and it moves enough air molecules it will raise prices.
I doubt they will go after those, it would seriously make things much worse than needed. In Iraq they set them on fire themselves to disrupt the visibility and other reasons. But them NetAYahoo is kind of a nutjob so, any prediction works.
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: Busher on June 13, 2025, 04:29:10 PM
Was just watching interceptions of ballistic missiles over Tel Aviv so the previous report may not have been true. Or not all true. I think oil producing sites in the Persian Gulf just became targets. Gas prices going up.
A few are getting through. None on military targets. Some hitting cities.
Oil prices are just based on false fears.
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: AKIron on June 13, 2025, 06:22:22 PM
Iran threatening US bases now. What will they do when they run out of missiles?
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: RUSH1 on June 13, 2025, 06:26:43 PM
Go Israel! From what I'm reading/hearing, Iran's in bad shape behind the scenes. The Iranian people and most of the region want a regime change and this might be the best chance the world gets in helping to make that happen. Nukes and the Ayatollah don't go together.
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 13, 2025, 06:53:23 PM
Iran threatening US bases now. What will they do when they run out of missiles?
They will get squeak slapped out of existence before that happens.
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: Lazerr on June 13, 2025, 07:32:08 PM
I think its pretty important Iran doesnt achieve what they are trying to do in the nuclear aspect.
Unfortunately the hard headed terrorists couldn't get it done diplomatically. But lets be honest, who believes they would follow the guidelines. At what point do you stop trying to deal with people like this?
Not to mention Iran's counter attack was on population centers, not strategic targets... and they failed pretty hard... what does that tell you?
Thank you Israel.
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: AKIron on June 13, 2025, 11:19:21 PM
Did Iran forget Israel has nukes?
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: artik on June 14, 2025, 06:01:56 AM
Few points... what happened when Iraq nuclear reactor was destroyed on 80s - everybody was mad about it - later thanked Israel..
Honestly, we doing everybody a huge favour - because the rest of the world decision making and standing against existential threat isn't very good. And Iran with Nukes is the threat to entire world not Israel alone.
So what USA and Europe should do is not to ask how to deescalate, but rather say thank you and please give us a list of targets for B-52s, B-2s, F-18s, F-35Cs, and Rafals so we can ensure that nothing is going to be missed especially since IAF has already did the job of gaining a full air-superiority.
And honestly... it should be done way-way before, not when they are so close to getting Nukes
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: Eagler on June 14, 2025, 07:18:22 AM
Tom Clancy writers are always looking for new material..
Guess Iran FAFO as it's pertaining to not following their nuclear energy ambition guidelines..
Guess Iran hasn't watched Israel turn Hamas governed Palestinian land into non inhabital rubble..
Expect increased terrorism of all levels anywhere..some by foreign terrorists and some by others..as everyone has an agenda and can't let a good crisis go to waste..
Eagler
Title: Re: Israel vs Iran
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 14, 2025, 08:41:32 AM