im looking for axis vs allies match-ups. this will be for thursdays and future setups!
A lot of variables and options, but if you can provide a basic timeframe of early/mid/late war and which flavor of axis vs allies, I can give you a very good idea.
Or... you could go look at the old CT/AvA setups for ideas - they were usually balanced.
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: captain1ma on June 16, 2025, 08:11:14 PM
well we have a war thing going on thurdays nights. any time frame is fine. im adding planes, but nerfing bombs so that the planes can take out GV's and anti aircraft, but not tanks. IE no bombs or rockets. this way we can have air battles and ground battles.
ill take anything you have to offer as far as what you think are good plane matchups. early to late war, doesnt matter. the idea is to give plane guys something else to do and tank guys to battle it out without being bombed!
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: Shuffler on June 19, 2025, 03:59:35 PM
My plane rarely has enough parts to fully take part in a fight. I am not going out on a limb when I say leaf my plane alone as I am gaining woody fiber when the trees start to bark at my 38.
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: save on June 22, 2025, 05:42:09 AM
A lot of variables and options, but if you can provide a basic timeframe of early/mid/late war and which flavor of axis vs allies, I can give you a very good idea.
Or... you could go look at the old CT/AvA setups for ideas - they were usually balanced.
I also mentioned that in private talks with jeager but we want the players to choose the planes along with what heavy metal for the ground they would like to see.
Here’s my ideal win since we have the I16 which I always called the clown plane what would be an even match up for that since it is a nice turny plane and sometimes also underated
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: Molsman on June 22, 2025, 11:47:58 PM
My plane rarely has enough parts to fully take part in a fight. I am not going out on a limb when I say leaf my plane alone as I am gaining woody fiber when the trees start to bark at my 38.
Shuffler
Lt.Cap and I used to battle it out in Ava and with his P38 and I forget what A6m i was flying which was a sweet battle I know it wasn’t the a6m5 I think it was the model2
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: Molsman on June 22, 2025, 11:55:38 PM
Lt.Cap and I used to battle it out in Ava and with his P38 and I forget what A6m i was flying which was a sweet battle I know it wasn’t the a6m5 I think it was the model2 I wanna say Bong flew the 38g since they were in the pacific against the early Zeros but you know more about The Blenders then I do I just know how to crash them and get a clean landing
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: captain1ma on June 23, 2025, 10:37:30 AM
just so you guys know, ive saved all these combo's at my house so we can try them out!
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: Shane on June 23, 2025, 11:04:02 AM
If you can suggest some relative hangar queens, I can provide some decent down low matchups... as I mentioned, there are way too many to just put out on a casual list.
For example:
P39D/P40F vs KI61/A6M5
P38g/p47D11/LA5/YAK9T vs 190A5/109G2
F4F/P40C/E vs A6M2-3/KI43
Brewster vs YAK7/I16/109F
F6F vs N1K2/KI84
P39Q/YAK7/YAK9T vs 109G2/6
I16/HURRI1 vs 109E
P40N vs C205
HURRI1 vs C202
HURRI2D vs STUKA87G
IL2/B25H vs 110G/ME410
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: Shane on June 24, 2025, 05:48:48 PM
there's a low level 4k alt cap... with the focus on ground action (no bombs) straffing, so not a lot of room for vertical. This ain't dueling.
Even more backing up my point. That airplane vs airplane match up on a low deck fight isn't even close. The.only option the p40 has is to try roping the ki after the merge, and I'm not even sure it's mechanically capable of that. Not to mention if they merge at say 3k, they are forced to fight downhill.
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: Shane on June 25, 2025, 11:41:51 AM
Even more backing up my point. That airplane vs airplane match up on a low deck fight isn't even close. The.only option the p40 has is to try roping the ki after the merge, and I'm not even sure it's mechanically capable of that. Not to mention if they merge at say 3k, they are forced to fight downhill.
Next time (Thurs?) they run a combo plane/gv show up to get an idea how whatever setup plays out.
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: captain1ma on June 25, 2025, 06:39:15 PM
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: Shuffler on July 03, 2025, 03:56:05 PM
I am so scared of trees that I had 2 large trees in my front yard cut down and the stumps ground.
About 2 weeks later my wife said the front yard looks way too big now. She had me buy 2 Live Oaks and plant them in the front. At this point they are only about 12 feet or so tall. I already wake up in the middle of the night in deep sweats thinking about those trees and how they may affect my 38 in just a few years..... This can't be normal.
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: caldera on July 04, 2025, 08:49:46 AM
If I had the means, I'd plant a "Big Dubbeyuh" in my front yard to keep the vulchers at bay.
Before the P-40 remodel, the E was more competitive, though still no match for the 109F.
The P-40E has better guns and better handling at very slow speed. But if it doesn't close the deal right then, the 109 will helicopter up and peck it to death, as it is much faster and has a huge climb rate advantage. Equal pilots, the 109 pilot would really have to be having an off day.
A much closer fight would be the 109E vs P-40C. Speeds are close and the Emil only has an 800' climb advantage.
The Yak-7b and P-39Q are very close in performance. The Q needs WEP to equal the Yak, but it has better flaps.
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: Maineac1 on July 11, 2025, 12:28:24 PM
The Mossie vs EVERYBODY.................!!!!
:aok
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: Kovel on July 13, 2025, 11:23:31 AM
FW190 A8 vs B17
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: Morpheus on July 17, 2025, 10:55:51 PM
After reading the title of this thread, I immediately thought of two dweebs who have been around for at least the past decade!!
These two pilots you all probadly have heard of in your green and I know either one of these dweebs have never backed or "ran" from hany of the diehard trolls! Either here on the BB or even in game. My best guess as who would best choice.
Wax with his little Jap cannons in his Nik. My second pilot would be Yucca.
In any "bar fight" that happened In the MA I would choose either 1 one of these two sticks.
Morph
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: Eagler on July 18, 2025, 07:13:44 AM
I have been tooling around in 109f in ma this tour...
Much fun, it helps not having the expectation of actually landing your kills...
Had a string of 7 kills one sortie last night before I kamikaze into a bomber...
It's a real shame we are limiting the MA fun with just the plane choices we make..
Eagler
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: hgtonyvi on July 18, 2025, 08:43:05 AM
F4U-1 vs anything. :rock
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 18, 2025, 08:49:38 AM
I have been tooling around in 109f in ma this tour...
Much fun, it helps not having the expectation of actually landing your kills...
Had a string of 7 kills one sortie last night before I kamikaze into a bomber...
It's a real shame we are limiting the MA fun with just the plane choices we make..
Eagler
Yup, it turns the difficulty level way up when you fly less advantaged planes and makes the fights much better for all. People would much rather die BnZing you than you BnZing them :D
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: icepac on July 19, 2025, 06:06:18 AM
Don’t underestimate the MGFF.
Title: Re: Most even plane matchups, where its the pilot not the plane
Post by: Hajo on July 19, 2025, 01:28:31 PM
I used to love the 190 and the P 47 D11 down on the deck. Of course I was always in the D11 :aok