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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: AKKuya on August 10, 2025, 05:32:18 PM
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That scenario would be a blessing and a curse at the same time.
Instantly, there would be crash in the financial markets placing all without money. Industries would stop. People would no longer be forced to work paying bills, mortgages, rent, and debts.
Within several years, tens of millions would die to lack of medical supplies that can't be manufactured. The same for those unable to heat their dwelling in the winter cold and cool during the summer heat and vice versa in the southern hemisphere. Worldwide panic and confusion causing break down of social order prompting survival of the strongest and most armed to the teeth.
It would revert back to prior to the 1880s. Horses, oil lamps, washboards and sailing ships until steam powered transportation resumed.
Can you give up this age of convenience?
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Read One Second After. Insulin must be refrigerated. A lot of people would die inside a month if the power suddenly went out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Second_After
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Read One Second After. Insulin must be refrigerated. A lot of people would die inside a month if the power suddenly went out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Second_After
Insulin is good for 28 days or so outside the fridge. TLDR on the rest but thought that this fact was more than trivial. All you diabetics Get a Yeti and some Ice ASAP after an EMP event!
Get batteries and steal your neighbors' gas and gas operated generators. Most importantly, get in good with Shuffler for access to Margs!
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I'm diabetic. My insulin and pills run out. I'm good for several months. Eventually, I will start to go downhill. Go blind first, then refuse to get up. 1 year to 18 months until last breath.
Everyone is different and Hollywood sets a bad example for dramatic purpose.
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The effectiveness of an EMP attack is debatable. If it is as effective as some believe imagine living in a city of millions and the lights go out to stay. No more supplies coming into the city. There would be a mad scramble to grab and hoard whatever food and supplies wherever you can find it. Sooner rather than later the water will stop flowing. No more indoor plumbing.
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AI certainly won't matter much
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But something like a Carrington Event scares me.
It's not just idea of the power being off for an extended time, but all electronic devices fried.
Including the electronics in the factory to make new electronics.
Every single thing in our entire tech chain being bricked all at the same time. It would be years before you could even begin to manufacture the things you'd need to reproduce just to get the power back on.
No communications. How long on horseback to get a written message from DC to Dallas?
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No communications. How long on horseback to get a written message from DC to Dallas?
It would be faster on a bicycle using the interstate system. A week of pedaling.
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2 weeks
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It would be faster on a bicycle using the interstate system. A week of pedaling.
I've ridden 5 or 6 double century's in the past so I think that's about right. I think it'd be a tad longer on a horse. That written message better be pretty dense and informative however as I ain't riding back for "what are you talking about?" or "say again?."
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I remember as a kid some places still had the telegraph wires up. I'm guessing all those got recycled for copper once they started taking the precious metals out of our coins.
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Civil unrest would have half our big cities on fire within a month...
Marshall law would be our best bet but that would fail eventually...power grid hacks are definitely a way to destroy us from within..without firing an actual weapon..
Eagler
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If the powers to be came up off the Tesla files, we wouldn't have this problem. I'm convinced that the pyramids were built using similar lost or hidden technology.
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I remember as a kid some places still had the telegraph wires up. I'm guessing all those got recycled for copper once they started taking the precious metals out of our coins.
Wouldn't matter in a big enough Carrington Event.
We were barely industrialized during the first one thankfully. Still it fried hundreds of miles of early telegraph line setting forests on fire. Telegraph wire would simply be a great induction coil to absorb the energy and and fry and burn every it touches. It all had to be replaced.
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They were able to build far more beautiful buildings and write much more eloquently than people now, soo, perhaps they were doing something right before 1880 :rofl
If something like that ever did happen. It would be absolute chaos. Complete and total anarchy with military intervention. Hard to imagine. It would take atleast 2 decades but probably longer to get humanity back into some kind of civil society. Just speculation.
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They were able to build far more beautiful buildings and write much more eloquently than people now, soo, perhaps they were doing something right before 1880 :rofl
Well, except for the cholera, typhoid, measles, polio and stuff like that. ;)
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If an EMP were as effective as some speculate there's little doubt in my mind it's high on the list of attack strategies by our enemies. It's not a sure thing though but will nevertheless incur our great wrath.
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[Martial law would be implemented in small localized area without instant communications. Military dictatorships would rise to quell civil unrest. The big cities would be a free for all run by street gangs.
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Out here where I live, (10 minutes to the nearest town of 728, and 35 min to the nearest "big" town of 24k) I doubt much would happen if the power went out, at least not until it had been out for a while.
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Read One Second After. Insulin must be refrigerated. A lot of people would die inside a month if the power suddenly went out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Second_After
I liked that book. :aok
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Loss of electricity in the nation for a prolonged time would result in a lot of dead people.
EMP over the nation (takes 1-2 lower-powered nukes to do that) would kill maybe 90% of Americans.
Carrington event would be less because a lot of cars would still work. But it would still be very bad. It would take out every electric device hooked to a power line (unless it had a good surge protector). No pumps or electric equipment to supply water, take away waste, process food, make drugs, run hvac, make fuel, supply natural gas, refrigerate food, move things on piplelines, make anything in a factory. You might be able to travel for a distance with vehicles until fuel runs out. Most farms would die without electricity, pumps, and fuel.
EMP: Carrington event plus, no working cars, trucks, boats, planes, trains. You are instantly reduced to a travel radius of what you can do on foot or bike (or horse, for the tiny fraction of people who have horses).
I think most people without access to surface water would die within a month. People without food would die in half a year. Anyone requiring medicine to survive would die after a while. Lots of people would get murdered.
It would be horrible.
For several $billion (which is nothing in modern budgets), our government could make it so that such events wouldn't kill 90% of people. But few know about this biggest of all threats. Few people care.
Me, once I learned about how this stuff is entirely possible, I at least made buckets of rice and beans (sealed in mylar, with oxygen absorber inside, will last for 30+ years, and together are a complete protein), getting some water filters that allow you to use swamp water, etc., enough for my family for a while. One bucket is a man-month of calories. It is cheap, doesn't take much time, and you can do it once in your life and be protected against starvation.
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. . . It would revert back to prior to the 1880s. Horses, oil lamps, washboards and sailing ships until steam powered transportation resumed.
Can you give up this age of convenience?
Then you have never pied in a chamber pot. Never smelled the aroma of a kerosene soaked corn cob burning to get the wood stove going. Never road to the cotton gin in a mule drawn wagon filled with fresh, hand picked cotton. Never roasted on one side next to the pot belly stove while your other side froze. Never watched the kerosene lamp glow that soft light. Never got excited when the traveling Pedaler drove up to the house. Never watched as the clothes were stirred around in the big, black cast iron boiling pot over a wood fire out in the yard..
Not so bad back then but that was in the early 1950s not 1880s.
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Then you have never pied in a chamber pot. Never smelled the aroma of a kerosene soaked corn cob burning to get the wood stove going. Never road to the cotton gin in a mule drawn wagon filled with fresh, hand picked cotton. Never roasted on one side next to the pot belly stove while your other side froze. Never watched the kerosene lamp glow that soft light. Never got excited when the traveling Pedaler drove up to the house. Never watched as the clothes were stirred around in the big, black cast iron boiling pot over a wood fire out in the yard..
Not so bad back then but that was in the early 1950s not 1880s.
My Granddad not once ever came off as nostalgic about fresh hand picked cotton. :rofl In fact, as maybe the nicest, most even tempered man I think I ever met... that's one of the few subjects he would frown about.
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It's about keeping the people who want what you have from overrunning your position.
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It's about keeping the people who want what you have from overrunning your position.
Indeed. We have access to surface, mid, and deep water. We have access to food. We have access to ammunition. We have a couple of doctors and a few nurses in the group.
Being prepared is not a bad idea. Always hope for the best.
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Probably a good idea to know your neighbors. SHTF and people migrate to groups.
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My Granddad not once ever came off as nostalgic about fresh hand picked cotton. :rofl In fact, as maybe the nicest, most even tempered man I think I ever met... that's one of the few subjects he would frown about.
Picking cotton is a a whole lot different than ridding in a wagon full of cotton.