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Title: ID this pistol
Post by: Devil 505 on August 25, 2025, 09:40:54 PM
I saw this beautiful pistol in a video on youtube, but the host never said what it was since it's not the subject of the video.

So what is it? I'm pretty certain it's not a Beretta.

(https://i.postimg.cc/TwfJK2YR/Pistol-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/NMD7mh5R/Pistol-2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Oldman731 on August 25, 2025, 09:57:28 PM
So..er..you have a firearm where the identifying information on the left side of the receiver has been filed off...?

- oldman
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Spikes on August 26, 2025, 06:36:13 AM
So..er..you have a firearm where the identifying information on the left side of the receiver has been filed off...?

- oldman
Did you even read the post?
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: uptown on August 26, 2025, 08:27:39 AM
There's a Browning emblem on the hand grip. And from the mag size I'd say it's smaller than a .45 cal. My best guess would be a Browning 9mm High Power. Need more pics to see if it's Belgium made or not.  :salute
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: AKIron on August 26, 2025, 09:05:55 AM
Based on the size relative to the hand holding it I'm guessing a Browning .380

https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/fn-browning-bda-380-pistol-380-acp-435-c-5854a00b1c?srsltid=AfmBOorLDXnaqKoNvnGAPYwFVcDdVyjmp9dRIwnlH6w1auRiUo24-zby
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: SIK1 on August 26, 2025, 09:13:31 AM
There's a Browning emblem on the hand grip. And from the mag size I'd say it's smaller than a .45 cal. My best guess would be a Browning 9mm High Power. Need more pics to see if it's Belgium made or not.  :salute
It's not a Hi-Power, but it does look like a John Browning design.

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Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Animl-AW on August 26, 2025, 09:15:46 AM
I was going to say .380 too
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: SIK1 on August 26, 2025, 09:17:03 AM
Based on the size relative to the hand holding it I'm guessing a Browning .380

https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/fn-browning-bda-380-pistol-380-acp-435-c-5854a00b1c?srsltid=AfmBOorLDXnaqKoNvnGAPYwFVcDdVyjmp9dRIwnlH6w1auRiUo24-zby
Looks like we have a winner.

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Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Devil 505 on August 26, 2025, 09:50:31 AM
Based on the size relative to the hand holding it I'm guessing a Browning .380

https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/fn-browning-bda-380-pistol-380-acp-435-c-5854a00b1c?srsltid=AfmBOorLDXnaqKoNvnGAPYwFVcDdVyjmp9dRIwnlH6w1auRiUo24-zby

That's it. Thanks.
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Mayhem on August 27, 2025, 10:46:21 AM
Based on the size relative to the hand holding it I'm guessing a Browning .380

https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/fn-browning-bda-380-pistol-380-acp-435-c-5854a00b1c?srsltid=AfmBOorLDXnaqKoNvnGAPYwFVcDdVyjmp9dRIwnlH6w1auRiUo24-zby

AKIron called it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browning_BDA_380
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: AKIron on August 27, 2025, 03:34:00 PM
I need to get me a small .380. The Bodyguard I had didn't fire reliably. Common problem with the S&W .380 I've read. I put in a trigger mod that was supposed to correct that. It didn't.
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Spikes on August 27, 2025, 03:37:23 PM
I love my Glock 42 but it isn't very small compared to the Bodyguard.
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on August 27, 2025, 09:51:03 PM
I need to get me a small .380. The Bodyguard I had didn't fire reliably. Common problem with the S&W .380 I've read. I put in a trigger mod that was supposed to correct that. It didn't.

Got a close friend who has two of the small P365 pistols, one in 380, one in 9MM. The 9MM shoots better, in every respect. Less flash, less blast, less perceived recoil, more accurate.
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Mayhem on August 28, 2025, 03:12:24 PM
I would be very cautious of new Sig Sauers. I love the P2xx series, I have a p220st .45 a p229 .40 and a p239 .40 .... About 5 to 10 years ago Sig started making the p2xx series with plastic/polymer recoil spring guide rods. Then they started trying to make Glock (Striker Fire) clones that go off on their own.

We had a school resource officer's Sig p320 go off in her holster and it was caught on video.

https://www.cerescourier.com/news/local/sig-sauer-model-that-shot-ceres-police-officer-has-history-of-firing-at-whim/
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on August 28, 2025, 06:11:58 PM
The P320 and the P365 do not share a fire control or a safety system, two entirely separate designs.

That said, I've owned a P320 for four years, without any uncommanded discharge incidents. I don't doubt something is going on. It appears to me to be a combination of tolerance stack, holster design, and operator habits. I was actually surprised that I like my P320, I have a distinct dislike of striker fired pistols. But the P320 and P365 seem to work for me. Do I think SIG Sauer should do something regarding what's going on with the P320? Yeah, I think they do.

The SIG Sauer pistols are not "Glock clones". I actually despise everything about the Glock, there's nothing about it I like. Especially not requiring the trigger to be pulled in order to tear it down. And the term "Glock leg" wasn't invented out of thin air or whole cloth. There were multiple agencies that experienced a 1,000% increase in "negligent discharges" when they adopted the Glocks. There's a guy here who is without a right leg because his Glock discharged when he was reholstering it. It was on video, as it was at a local jail, where he had to remove his duty weapon to enter the facility. He didn't have his finger on the trigger when he put it in his holster.

Again, SIG Sauer isn't without guilt or fault concerning the P320 uncommanded discharge issue. However, I don't  think they are the only problem, and I think there are a lot of people with an agenda who are magnifying the issue.
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: AKIron on August 28, 2025, 08:39:12 PM
I just want a small gun I can carry "quietly" that will discourage an evil doer absolutely if needed.
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: AKIron on August 28, 2025, 08:40:24 PM
I already have big guns to turn away the hordes.
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: uptown on August 28, 2025, 09:43:06 PM
Packing a pocket pistol around is a good way to shoot yourself in the nuts.
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on August 29, 2025, 09:34:40 AM
I already have big guns to turn away the hordes.


Get the smaller P365 in 9MM. Same size as the 380. Hides easily and comfortably in a Galco IWB holster.
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Spikes on August 30, 2025, 10:52:14 PM
Packing a pocket pistol around is a good way to shoot yourself in the nuts.
Kydex
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Widewing on September 02, 2025, 11:57:26 PM
Browning BDA chambered in .380 ACP.
(https://gunsamerica.com/userimages/5263/930394210/wm_3650459.jpg)
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Widewing on September 03, 2025, 12:35:32 AM
I just want a small gun I can carry "quietly" that will discourage an evil doer absolutely if needed.

I own several pocket size pistols. If you want the best of current crop, the S&W Bodyguard 2.0 is the best. Not the old double action Bodyguard, but the new 2.0 version.

Far and away, it is the smallest, lightest, best shooting .380 available. It set the new standard.
It comes with 10 round and 12 round magazines. There are inside the waistband holsters available and many pocket holsters work well.

It is smaller and thinner than the Glock G42 with twice the capacity.
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Animl-AW on September 03, 2025, 08:24:04 AM
Long story short, I Chitcago a kid was trying to pull his pocket gun on me, except it kept getting tangled in his pocket and he couldn’t get it out in time. Had I had my gun he’d be gone. I just stepped back into a building while he struggled, kinda laughing.
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Widewing on September 03, 2025, 02:57:59 PM
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Long story short, I Chitcago a kid was trying to pull his pocket gun on me, except it kept getting tangled in his pocket and he couldn’t get it out in time. Had I had my gun he’d be gone. I just stepped back into a building while he struggled, kinda laughing.
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Pocket carry requires a pocket holster. It does several things. It keeps the trigger covered. It positions the gun in the correct orientation. It keeps things such as lint and debris out of the pistol's action.

Small pockets are not good. Small pocket entry is worse. Large, deep pockets are better. In other words. loose fitting jeans are much better than dress pants. With dress pants, a tuckable inside the waistband holster is far better if not wearing a jacket.

Here's some pocket rigs I use with small semiautos.

(https://scontent.ftpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/510814351_10238618145177696_2938161470130012191_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=2rCOBccIuL8Q7kNvwGxHHyr&_nc_oc=AdmYpXEOLagiFl7sCkdSFd5ZFdNq8S-h5sMFdBoZMBKVfbGEqXAsz8B45huWMasu-bzEJEDzB9o5IoEwgGrv0ZY6&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.ftpa1-1.fna&_nc_gid=V3jfXjs6X1uRct832Lkxjw&oh=00_AfZkPpqh-X1eOHI4S95ICsqOa5yjwGAdl_b7T7Ao61J3Ww&oe=68BE7750)

This is what I carry most often. Down here in Florida, I wear shorts 10 months out of the year. I made a custom pocket holster for it. This is a S&W 642 Air Weight 5 shot double action J-frame. It has received an action and trigger job. The factory grip was replaced with a Hogue grip. I load this with Underwood Xtreme Defender 100gr +P ammo. These generate nearly 1,100 fps muzzle velocity from the 1.87 inch barrel. Relatively low recoil, with exceptional terminal ballistics.

(https://scontent.ftpa1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/540756179_10239739184762985_4143183340325005564_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=LhmsdTpTrX4Q7kNvwGHxxhZ&_nc_oc=Adk-jMQ-hOFjF0ZQg_r11AtczMrqs2189GEKjJSqE4FzbxFCLoxz3NwtW1QwtpKH-XwBdrN0mkNZbhIU3vvGsftn&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.ftpa1-2.fna&_nc_gid=d1VblgcoGFffudLUZ_NKFQ&oh=00_AfbLYQ5Cjn-4pn7wfePB7CjShroSQH8vVJI03IKZlCi6VQ&oe=68BE5E67)

Accuracy is outstanding (for a snubby) at 10 yards. Note the cruciform holes in the target and the rounds on the speed strip. Those are the Underwood Xtreme Defenders. These are solid copper that use fluid transfer technology. In Government testing, the proved to do greater damage than conventional hollowpoints, with superior penetration of barriers.

(https://scontent.ftpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/473259824_10236503049581628_6085492459936194792_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=ye7aiBml_pgQ7kNvwHpfZZH&_nc_oc=AdnV0crn-C-Ag1HB0c-Qv8PzfwwDXyIg264MxopJtyW26Y0Cu0sBlbgkhzUSRoQMb35mxK38kk3RWU2fravhk5di&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.ftpa1-1.fna&_nc_gid=pAEBHgEinyj8tSLicURPpA&oh=00_Afbw4ROg7T6EkKLo4O5hSrOE6WqtqMA76ryuEyR6G-5_ag&oe=68BE60BC)
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Animl-AW on September 03, 2025, 04:01:11 PM
Oh ya, I get it. He was just a dweeb.

I used to go to or through a lot the worst areas in Chicago, for work.
I make a point to not carry 90% of the time. It forces me to think how not to do or go, like down a dark ally, I would not normally do. Just because I have one, doesn’t mean I get first shot. In their territory, not mine, they already have upper hand.

The several situations I got in, I got out of without a gun, even though I wished I had it.

If I did have it, like during the above, I would have taken first shot, before I knew he couldn’t get it out. Now, I’m going through court cases I may not win.

I have a reflex.

I am certified with Chitcago PD for active shooter response. I just don’t need the aftermath.

If I think I need a gun to go somewhere, its probably best I don’t go. Problems avoided.
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Widewing on September 04, 2025, 01:01:50 AM

If I think I need a gun to go somewhere, its probably best I don’t go. Problems avoided.

A violent encounter can happen anywhere. Transitional spaces, such as parking lots, gas stations, parks, etc, are places we go almost every day. I am armed every day, everywhere. I shoot live fire drills 3 or 4 times a month. We also have an abundance of potentially dangerous animals. Feral hogs, Coyotes and Gators. In the past 5 years, we were confronted two times by drug addled homeless in our adjacent nature park. In both instances, the sight of my firearm resulted in their hasty departure. Police later found and arrested one of them (2nd incident).

I always strive to avoid trouble, but should not be possible, I am prepared to do what is required to end a threat. Living in a free state, we don't have to deal with Government limiting our ability to defend ourselves. Indeed, our County Sheriff encourages carrying firearms. Resident's of Chicago have never heard their police speak like this....
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Hej8TTJaV/ (https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Hej8TTJaV/)
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Eagler on September 04, 2025, 07:33:05 AM
Florida sherrifs are the best..

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https://youtube.com/shorts/EdY0_1Xo_Bs?si=WJZCScEIMAuaMxcw

Eagler
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Animl-AW on September 04, 2025, 08:18:17 AM
Wildlife is different. I lived in WA, plenty of large animals, including mt lions and grizzlies. Then again, I grew up with guns and wildlife.

In Chitcago, only reason I went there was work. Most buildings/venues don’t allow guns.

I live in a weird area Chitcago 30 miles north west (almost shot) Gary 15 miles north east (did get shot at). Yet 15-20 miles south into farmland its polar opposite. Ya wave at each other goin down the road.

Southern states tend to be a bit fanatic and anxious to use them. I would absolutely carry in a southern state.  Southern states have the highest murder by gun stats.

This is a good site that compiles data for crime areas. Click any state or city, load map, and you can zoom out and pan with the mouse and see the whole country.
https://crimegrade.org/. Menu top right on phone

If you zoom way out IL is in better shape then many states.

Not suggesting, I’ve very responsibly and maturely owned man guns. I’ve noticed when someone gets their first gun their nads and mouth expand them into trouble.

Everyone makes their own decisions.
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Eagler on September 04, 2025, 08:36:25 AM
Depends on the neighborhood..

In-laws live 30 minutes outside a poor Florida town that has high crime in their non white neighborhoods..

The area around the In-laws have some of the lowest crime in the entire state..wanna make a guess why that is?

Hint seabee father In-law has two massive guns safes and just under 100 guns..and diversity is at its minimum..

Eagler
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Animl-AW on September 04, 2025, 09:03:30 AM
Depends on the neighborhood..

In-laws live 30 minutes outside a poor Florida town that has high crime in their non white neighborhoods..

The area around the In-laws have some of the lowest crime in the entire state..wanna make a guess why that is?

Hint seabee father In-law has two massive guns safes and just under 100 guns..and diversity is at its minimum..

Eagler

I don’t need to guess. I USED to live it. I’m moving to farm country and never looking back.
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Shuffler on September 04, 2025, 12:13:00 PM
A violent encounter can happen anywhere. Transitional spaces, such as parking lots, gas stations, parks, etc, are places we go almost every day. I am armed every day, everywhere. I shoot live fire drills 3 or 4 times a month. We also have an abundance of potentially dangerous animals. Feral hogs, Coyotes and Gators. In the past 5 years, we were confronted two times by drug addled homeless in our adjacent nature park. In both instances, the sight of my firearm resulted in their hasty departure. Police later found and arrested one of them (2nd incident).

I always strive to avoid trouble, but should not be possible, I am prepared to do what is required to end a threat. Living in a free state, we don't have to deal with Government limiting our ability to defend ourselves. Indeed, our County Sheriff encourages carrying firearms. Resident's of Chicago have never heard their police speak like this....
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Hej8TTJaV/ (https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Hej8TTJaV/)

Have it and not need it. That is preferred.
I'll never need it and not have it.
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: Animl-AW on September 04, 2025, 12:27:44 PM
I equate it this way, you’re more likely to get hit by lightning, and since thats true, also more likely for mistakes.

Used to own a lot of guns. Its a fun hobby.
Title: Re: ID this pistol
Post by: uptown on September 04, 2025, 01:03:04 PM
How about someone post some more gun pics to guess at?