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Title: Real Life conundrum
Post by: Busher on September 05, 2025, 08:54:42 AM
You ask... "Are you a truthful person?"

The person answers.... "No".

....... why would you believe them?

Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: AKIron on September 05, 2025, 10:52:52 AM
I see the conundrum but an always truthful person would have to answer yes. Therefore any other answer leaves the truthfulness of the respondent in doubt.
Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: Bizman on September 05, 2025, 10:59:38 AM
Reminds me of the big question "Have you already stopped cheating on your wife?"
Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: Animl-AW on September 05, 2025, 11:02:22 AM
Being how he lied through it all, no in but those two know if the convo even existed as he stated. I call BS.

My guess “ are you loyal to (insert name)”.

They should not be “ loyal”,
Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 05, 2025, 11:39:24 AM
Being how he lied through it all, no in but those two know if the convo even existed as he stated. I call BS.

My guess “ are you loyal to (insert name)”.

They should not be “ loyal”,

How can you guys claim to hate big business and then go and defend big pharma? I dont know about you guys. But ive freaking had it with big pharma brainwashing commercials every 10 minutes. For what its worth, no one is a truthful person or conglomerate, case in point. The term "vaccine" use to imply a one time antidote that prevented disease for atleast a decade. The MRNA vaccine did not infact prevent covid. Thats just a fact. Therefore they were untruthful about it being a vaccine and infact weren't truthful about the results of their tests and effectiveness of it, nore where they responsible about telling people the risks of spike Protein. Which has caused strokes and heartattacks and cancers to spike. Ive lost 3 people I knew to random as diddly heart attacks and strokes that they shouldn't have had.
Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: AKIron on September 05, 2025, 11:46:16 AM
I see. So we're talking about a current event. The question then would be do you always tell the truth. You can say no and be telling the truth. You could also say yes and be lying. Motivations and history must be considered for trust.
Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: Shuffler on September 05, 2025, 11:47:02 AM
Does this have anything to do with the cross-eyed woman seeing a guy on the side?

OO oooo or maybe Jumbo Shrimp?
Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: Busher on September 05, 2025, 12:03:55 PM
The MRNA vaccine did not infact prevent covid. Thats just a fact.

Why do you always claim "facts" not in evidence? ... and never question your sources?
Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: Animl-AW on September 05, 2025, 12:13:14 PM
How can you guys claim to hate big business and then go and defend big pharma? I dont know about you guys. But ive freaking had it with big pharma brainwashing commercials every 10 minutes. For what its worth, no one is a truthful person or conglomerate, case in point. The term "vaccine" use to imply a one time antidote that prevented disease for atleast a decade. The MRNA vaccine did not infact prevent covid. Thats just a fact. Therefore they were untruthful about it being a vaccine and infact weren't truthful about the results of their tests and effectiveness of it, nore where they responsible about telling people the risks of spike Protein. Which has caused strokes and heartattacks and cancers to spike. Ive lost 3 people I knew to random as diddly heart attacks and strokes that they shouldn't have had.

DUDE STOP
As an audio engineer who signed NDAs with big pharma companies to record conferences, you can bet your nads, because of markets tactics, I DO NOT in any way support big pharma. Not against big biz, against lying gougers.!


You are making reckless assumptions that because I disagree on certain issues that I’m some enemy on all subjects. Subject by subject. Again, thats how independents work.
Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: Devil 505 on September 05, 2025, 12:42:23 PM
I love seeing people correctly applying reason and logic to a hypothetical situation and yet they always seem to fail horribly at doing the same in actual situations.
Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: Eagler on September 05, 2025, 01:12:18 PM
It's been my experience that everyone lies..

Heck most outright cheat and steal at one level or another so how can they not lie..

Eagler
Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 05, 2025, 03:09:48 PM
DUDE STOP
As an audio engineer who signed NDAs with big pharma companies to record conferences, you can bet your nads, because of markets tactics, I DO NOT in any way support big pharma. Not against big biz, against lying gougers.!


You are making reckless assumptions that because I disagree on certain issues that I’m some enemy on all subjects. Subject by subject. Again, thats how independents work.

Well you said he lied through it all which implies he's wrong/or purposefully misleading Americans about everything which implies that big pharma should keep doing what they are doing despite outside studies that suggest they were the one misleading Americans and even the world by not sharing all of the potential risks and side effects like they do for every other medication. Further, many of the members asking questions including the one the OP is referring to have taken millions in lobby money to protect its interest. For what its worth, as far as im concerned, these pharma companies have a lost a lot credibility for me and im glad someone is holding their feet to fire instead of riding off into the wind with lobby money.
Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: Animl-AW on September 05, 2025, 03:41:18 PM
Well you said he lied through it all which implies he's wrong/or purposefully misleading Americans about everything which implies that big pharma should keep doing what they are doing despite outside studies that suggest they were the one misleading Americans and even the world by not sharing all of the potential risks and side effects like they do for every other medication. Further, many of the members asking questions including the one the OP is referring to have taken millions in lobby money to protect its interest. For what its worth, as far as im concerned, these pharma companies have a lost a lot credibility for me and im glad someone is holding their feet to fire instead of riding off into the wind with lobby money.

To the top 2 sentences, ya, I said that he lied, he was called out on it with proof real time. Yep, he lied. That has ZERO to do with big biz or pharma. They gonna do what he lets them do.

Some don’t see the firest because trees are in the way. Infomercials and David Coperfield made a fortune. Some iver think everything snd miss whats right in front of them.

Yep, he lid his ars off, why would I trust his side of a story? A jury wouldn’t
Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: Busher on September 05, 2025, 04:19:51 PM
Well you said he lied through it all which implies he's wrong/or purposefully misleading Americans about everything which implies that big pharma should keep doing what they are doing despite outside studies that suggest they were the one misleading Americans and even the world by not sharing all of the potential risks and side effects like they do for every other medication. Further, many of the members asking questions including the one the OP is referring to have taken millions in lobby money to protect its interest. For what its worth, as far as im concerned, these pharma companies have a lost a lot credibility for me and im glad someone is holding their feet to fire instead of riding off into the wind with lobby money.

I suspect you are relatively young in comparison to most people who post on these forums. With that in mind, I hope when the day arrives that your life might depend on advanced pharmaceutical research (assuming it still exists) that you might change your mind about the science.

And by the way, he was caught on many lies.
Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: AKIron on September 05, 2025, 04:27:38 PM
Declaring us a most favored nation for all drug sales is huge.


Waiting for some to complain that many nations can't afford the prices we pay here. Dude, we can't afford it either.
Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: Animl-AW on September 05, 2025, 06:43:31 PM
I suspect you are relatively young in comparison to most people who post on these forums. With that in mind, I hope when the day arrives that your life might depend on advanced pharmaceutical research (assuming it still exists) that you might change your mind about the science.

And by the way, he was caught on many lies.

They hate science until it saves their life in the hospital.
Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: AKKuya on September 05, 2025, 07:36:20 PM
You're walking down the sidewalk and spot a 20-dollar bill in front of a store.  Do you ignore and walk on? Do you stop and pick up and place in your pocket?  Do you stop and pick up and enter the store to ask anyone lost a 20-dollar bill?

Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 05, 2025, 08:26:18 PM
They hate science until it saves their life in the hospital.

No one is attacking "science" or hates it..its such a broad generalization to make...science is a process. Its not a science vs spirituality debate. If the the experiment doesn't agree with your hypothesis, than you should acknowledge that it doesn't agree. Not look for many ways to force it to agree through manipulation and then pass it to people that it agrees even though it doesn't.

Theres a difference between medicine and surgery. Theres a difference between all known biological and chemical substances that can be used to treat people. Theres also a difference between how it affects people. I had an allergic reaction and body froze stiff for a week after taking a drug prescribed to me after braking my wrist as a child. You never know the reaction youll have. Hell this Ozympic stuff is really really bad for some people. Trial by error with medications is science itself. All im saying is that people should be fully aware of potential risks that may affect them and for "experts" to make sure people understand that there are risks rather than shoving very new medications down everyones throats through extremely strong media propaganda and coercion. If we are to have something like a HHS, than it should be used to make sure companies arent misleading the public and hold them accountable for it.
Title: Re: Real Life conundrum
Post by: Busher on September 05, 2025, 09:09:35 PM
No one is attacking "science" or hates it..its such a broad generalization to make...science is a process. Its not a science vs spirituality debate. If the the experiment doesn't agree with your hypothesis, than you should acknowledge that it doesn't agree. Not look for many ways to force it to agree through manipulation and then pass it to people that it agrees even though it doesn't.

Theres a difference between medicine and surgery. Theres a difference between all known biological and chemical substances that can be used to treat people. Theres also a difference between how it affects people. I had an allergic reaction and body froze stiff for a week after taking a drug prescribed to me after braking my wrist as a child. You never know the reaction youll have. Hell this Ozympic stuff is really really bad for some people. Trial by error with medications is science itself. All im saying is that people should be fully aware of potential risks that may affect them and for "experts" to make sure people understand that there are risks rather than shoving very new medications down everyones throats through extremely strong media propaganda and coercion. If we are to have something like a HHS, than it should be used to make sure companies arent misleading the public and hold them accountable for it.


Apparently, you don't listen to and/or read all the possible side effects that the CDC requires to be published with all pharmaceuticals both old and new.