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Title: 50 years ago
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on November 10, 2025, 09:56:38 PM
Right about now, Bernie Cooper to the Arthur M. Anderson and its crew back out into the storm that sank the Edmund Fitzgerald to look for survivors. The William Clay Ford joined her, in a desperate attempt to search for and rescue any survivors.


"Does any man know, where the love of God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?"

Perhaps the most poignant and haunting lyrics ever written.
Title: Re: 50 years ago
Post by: Eagler on November 11, 2025, 07:02:24 AM


  :salute

Eagler
Title: Re: 50 years ago
Post by: bj229r on November 26, 2025, 06:34:36 AM
I'm thinking they recently send a robot thingie down there, did it ascertain the cause?
Title: Re: 50 years ago
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on November 27, 2025, 09:33:14 AM
I'm thinking they recently send a robot thingie down there, did it ascertain the cause?


With well over 200' of the center of the ship destroyed, I doubt there will be anything conclusive. There will be theories and claims.

There were known issues. It is possible she hit bottom at Caribou Shoals, Bernie Cooper believed she did, and she was seriously damaged. There are claims a rock was retrieved from the Shoals with her paint on it. But there's no sold evidence. She was known to have structural issues, and a loose keel. She was loaded to a dangerous level. It was a "100 year storm". Bernie Cooper said a series of massive waves known as "the Three Sisters" common to the lake hit the Arthur M. Anderson, and would have hit the Edmund Fitzgerald hard. He always said he believed she just couldn't recover from them in her condition. She had lost her reserve buoyancy, she was in a trough, and the Three Sisters hit her from behind, her bow went under, and she never recovered. That was his theory, and it adds up.
Title: Re: 50 years ago
Post by: AKKuya on November 27, 2025, 12:05:34 PM
Isn't there a song about this?
Title: Re: 50 years ago
Post by: Busher on November 27, 2025, 04:43:58 PM
Isn't there a song about this?

Ya... but I think it was written by a Canadian so there's likely a tariff on it.
Title: Re: 50 years ago
Post by: AKIron on November 28, 2025, 11:55:02 AM
Seems I read the ship was long enough that part would stick out of the water if it were stood upright from the bottom of the lake.
Title: Re: 50 years ago
Post by: Busher on November 28, 2025, 12:27:07 PM
Seems I read the ship was long enough that part would stick out of the water if it were stood upright from the bottom of the lake.

You're quite right. The ship was 730' long and the wreckage rests 530' below the surface.