Diesel would be cheaper than gasoline but for the costs of reducing/removing sulphur.
Still, have you guys seen the taxing?
Well, I really don't want to be breathing Sulphur, but I would prefer to see a tax-holiday on fuels to address price spikes rather than letting Putin sell his illegal blood-oil to suppress prices.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: Busher on March 17, 2026, 10:47:22 AM
Jet A, the non military version of jet fuel has reportedly doubled in price.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: AKIron on March 17, 2026, 11:10:27 AM
Energy independence oughta be every nation's goal. We achieved it for a while. Would be fewer wars.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: CptTrips on March 17, 2026, 11:31:26 AM
California charges twice the tax for fuel as south carolina.
Fuel taxes usually go to road\bridge maintenance, and California is 5 times larger than South Carolina, so I suspect they probably have more road milage and bridges to maintain.
Not to say like all gov there isn't waste.
But more roads to maintain means larger tax to maintain them.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: AKIron on March 17, 2026, 11:42:07 AM
Help is on the way. A shuttered refinery in California was ordered opened.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: CptTrips on March 17, 2026, 11:46:49 AM
Help is on the way. A shuttered refinery in California was ordered opened.
We don't agree on everything, but we can agree that we need more US refining capacity. There is no point in becoming a net petroleum exporter if the highest value-added item still has to be imported at global market price. Like nukes, put them on leased Gov land in AZ\NM and say, sorry, National Security.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: AKIron on March 17, 2026, 11:54:44 AM
This says refinery but it may be a mistake and just oil production.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H1C8Z0m-Zg
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: CptTrips on March 17, 2026, 12:02:39 PM
This says refinery but it may be a mistake and just oil production.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H1C8Z0m-Zg
Well refineries are not typically sited offshore for obvious reasons. ;)
We do need them. We've known for decades that was a worsening problem.
It's the not-in-my-backyard paradox.
I don't blame them. No sane person wants to live anywhere near a refinery. Texas City?
But from Abilene to Cali is the freakin Moon. Put them out there. The lizzards and jackrabbits won't mind and the government owns most of it already anyway.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: Eagler on March 17, 2026, 12:54:00 PM
U.S. diesel prices have surged over 36% in the past month, topping $5 per gallon in March 2026—the highest level since 2022—driven by geopolitical tensions and supply disruptions in the Middle East. This sharp increase, adding nearly $1 per gallon recently, significantly raises transportation and shipping costs, threatening to trigger broader inflation.
Current Surge: GasBuddy reported a 36.7% increase, moving prices to roughly $4.99–$5.04 per gallon.0
Next we will be told that we aren't patriotic if we complain about the higher prices this illegal Israeli led folly will result in..
Violator..please follow your own advice about being careful what news sources you listen to..as history will not be kind to this double talking lying swindler..
Quick question...you do see he exaggerating and outright lying just as much if not more than when he doesn't...this isn't from any news source but from my own eyes and ears..
Eagler
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: AKIron on March 17, 2026, 12:58:05 PM
If you didn't complain about the high prices a few years ago but are now then I wouldn't call you unpatriotic. Just stupid.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: CptTrips on March 17, 2026, 01:03:46 PM
If you didn't complain about the high prices a few years ago but are now then I wouldn't call you unpatriotic. Just stupid.
I always complain about high prices. What sane person doesn't?
When egg prices were high that was ridiculous. The high inflation was ridiculous.
What you are about to see between now and Nov, I expect things to be an order of magnitude worse.
Will you then complain?
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: Eagler on March 17, 2026, 01:14:06 PM
Just saw orange man said "not scared of anything" when asked about boots on the ground turning into another Vietnam..
He is not doing God's work ... how brainwashed can you be ...
You do realize he is despised by the majority of the globe and starting with angry tattoo Pete and the rest of his yes men admin are embarrassing and not a good look...more like crazy as hell..
Still no answer if you patriots would be for the identical illegal action if potato head joe or hackles got in bed with Israel and did it...my guess is a big fat no..
I think Joe Kent doesn't agree with you either..
Eagler
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: Lazerr on March 17, 2026, 01:33:04 PM
Hopefully you guys are ready for having to do this all again in 10 years, possibly less.
If there is no regime change, which i dont see happening... this is just buying time for counties in that region that otherwise would have been on the receiving end of a nuclear weapon.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: AKIron on March 17, 2026, 01:36:48 PM
Hopefully you guys are ready for having to do this all again in 10 years, possibly less.
If there is no regime change, which i dont see happening... this is just buying time for counties in that region that otherwise would have been on the receiving end of a nuclear weapon.
There will be a regime change. Wait and see.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: Animl-AW on March 17, 2026, 01:39:44 PM
Weird, I never believe a habitual liar, it’s just stupid.
Yet, people who do, forgot the last 500 times they’ve been wrong. Whats it like to always be wrong, about everything to date. <smh>
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: CptTrips on March 17, 2026, 01:46:06 PM
Hopefully you guys are ready for having to do this all again in 10 years, possibly less.
If there is no regime change, which i dont see happening... this is just buying time for counties in that region that otherwise would have been delivered a nuclear weapon.
All the more reason this should have been done right from the start.
GW1 lead-up was the pattern we should have followed. Get you Authorization of Force that gets national leadership buy-in. That gives you a better chance getting public buy-in. They watched the debates. They saw the arguments and they watched the vote. Everyone knows then, including your enemy, that is the combine will of he American people.
Then you work with your allies. You explain your reasoning and present your clear, attainable, measurable victory and exit conditions.
Following the process buys you a lot more resistance to upsets and bad fortune. Building your alliance gives you political cover and we could of already have a coalition of naval vessels ready to escort and patrol the Strait from the first hours.
The only naive mistake they made was thinking they could avoid the boots and let the uprising overthrow Saddam.
That never happened, no matter how much we bombed, until a young GI pulled him out of a Spider-Hole at bayonet point.
And then you have help for the reconstruction. Pottery Barn Rules.
If you leave a mess, it will turn into Syria and a patchwork of even more extremist warlords worse than the ones we assassinated.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: AKIron on March 17, 2026, 01:53:17 PM
One thing that's been proven recently, we have no need for NATO or the UN. We'll save hundreds of billions by withdrawing from both. Then we can make alliances beneficial to us.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: CptTrips on March 17, 2026, 01:56:58 PM
One thing that's been proven recently, we have no need for NATO or the UN. We'll save hundreds of billions by withdrawing from both. Then we can make alliances beneficial to us.
I bet they wish they knew that before they spilt blood and treasure supporting us in Afghanistan after 9/11.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: AKIron on March 17, 2026, 02:04:17 PM
If that's your measure then you need to observe that we spilt a lot more coming to their defense in two world wars. And we've spent trillions protecting Europe since. If you don't see that then you're blind.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: Eagler on March 17, 2026, 02:05:48 PM
Not to mention the $$$ our leaders are making off this...
The weirdest sick insider trading possible imo..
Eagler
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: AKIron on March 17, 2026, 02:06:04 PM
The UN has been less than useless for a long time. Let Europe provide for it's own defense.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: Eagler on March 17, 2026, 02:12:20 PM
One thing that's been proven recently, we have no need for NATO or the UN. We'll save hundreds of billions by withdrawing from both. Then we can make alliances beneficial to us.
Can't blame anyone from not wanting to get sucked into the mumbling bumbling trump party when it's run by someone who has an issue telling the truth and refraining from ridiculously untrue exaggerations...
That was the plan all along imo...start this crap and force others into it whether they want to join or not..and call them childish names when their common sense prevails..
Eagler
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: CptTrips on March 17, 2026, 02:12:25 PM
It is my measure that they fulfilled their NATO obligations admirably in Afghanistan after a fellow member was attacked on 9-11.
Surely you are not disrespecting the sacrifices of 1,147 of their service members defending a fellow NATO ally?
Where are you getting that number? That's not close to what I see.
NATO is a result of WWII and the memberships largely follow those alliances. To pretend they aren't related is disingenuous.
Total NATO/Coalition Deaths: Approximately 3,485–3,621+. Top 5 Contributing Nations (Deaths): United States: 2,400–2,461 United Kingdom: 457 Canada: 159 France: 90 Germany: 62
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: Eagler on March 17, 2026, 02:23:21 PM
You'd better hope you're wrong or energy costs will give you something to really cry about.
You don't think this just cost him the independent vote that gave him the win in 24...
I want a 3rd party to give it a go as both suck butt these days imo...
Eagler
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: AKIron on March 17, 2026, 02:32:39 PM
There is no debt. Alliance in NATO should be beneficial to all members. If it isn't they should leave. We certainly should not be letting any organization like the UN or NATO dictate national policy to us. If you're a Globalist then like we say in Texas, bless your heart.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: CptTrips on March 17, 2026, 02:32:48 PM
You don't think this just cost him the independent vote that gave him the win in 24...
I want a 3rd party to give it a go as both suck butt these days imo...
Eagler
Language professor says in a lecture that in only a few languages is a double negative a positive but in no language is a double positive a negative. Like the voice from the back of that hall said, yeah right.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: CptTrips on March 17, 2026, 02:35:36 PM
There is no debt. Alliance in NATO should be beneficial to all members. If it isn't they should leave. We certainly should not be letting any organization like the UN or NATO dictate national policy to us. If you're a Globalist then like we say in Texas, bless your heart.
The US was not attacked in this Special Military Operation: code-named "Epic Failure".
NATO has no obligation to let Trump wipe his booger off on them.
It's your booger, Donny. Eat it.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: Eagler on March 17, 2026, 02:38:49 PM
We leave nato and BRICS will replace us..
When we are bankrupt it'll be hard to have such a mighty military..
Our protection is why they've tolerated the petrol dollar dominance..
Eagler
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: AKIron on March 17, 2026, 02:41:04 PM
The US was not attacked in this Special Military Operation: code-named "Epic Failure".
NATO has no obligation to let Trump wipe his booger off on them.
It's your booger, Donny. Eat it.
We don't need NATO and never really did. It was all about helping them which in the long term may or may not have been beneficial to us. No more Soviet Union so really no need for NATO. Let it go.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: AKIron on March 17, 2026, 02:42:42 PM
We don't need NATO and never really did. It was all about helping them which in the long term may or may not have been beneficial to us. No more Soviet Union so really no need for NATO. Let it go.
Wow.
Title: Re: Diesel Disaster
Post by: AKIron on March 17, 2026, 02:46:00 PM
If you haven't considered how easily we completely destroyed Chinese and Russian state of the art air defenses you are not paying attention and really are just plain ignorant. Pay attention. This is a big.