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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Mayhem on May 06, 2026, 02:38:02 PM
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Virpil has teased their upcoming force feedback base.
Also Winwing/Winctrl have released their own force feedback base and it looks like a beast (I use virpil gear and I don't think it is compatible with virpil sticks)
I have personally been looking at the Mozza AB9 and AB6 mostly because it is duel purpose and can not only support virpil grips but can be used as a racing stick shift.
The only other option I am aware of is Brunner who also support Virpil grips and they have a wide selection of Force Feedback options (rudder pedals, Collectives, Yokes and Full Motion Simulators) but they are VERY EXPENSIVE.
I'm going to go broke .... I'm starting to think I shoulda gotten into Crack Cocaine .... It's Cheaper! (And safer when you consider the health risk of your spouse discovering how much you paid for a flippin joystick)
https://forum.virpil.com/index.php?/topic/26852-may-the-force-be-with-you/ (https://forum.virpil.com/index.php?/topic/26852-may-the-force-be-with-you/)
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Don't order from Virpil unless you don't mind waiting a few months. A few years ago I got my stick from them in a couple of months. It's twice that or more now.
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Don't order from Virpil unless you don't mind waiting a few months. A few years ago I got my stick from them in a couple of months. It's twice that or more now.
Not sure how true that statement is. Last time I ordered something from them (about a year ago) I received it within a month. I'm sure if you are ordering the newest, shiniest thing the delay will be longer.
:cheers:
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Back before 2020 even buying Virpil gear was a lottery event and shipping was a mess.
My first order from Virpil was right after they changed the ordering lottery to a wait list.
My first order was in 2020 right after they changed the ordering lottery to a wait list. everything still ALL came from eastern Europe back then. FedEx pooched delivery and it took me about 2 months to fulfill the order and ship it and another month and a half to deliver it.
My second and third order took about a month to 6 weeks.
My last order was for my Apache Collective Grip and TCS+ Collective base but it came from the US and it only took 3 weeks that was late 24 early 25.
Virpil does have a US/NA store.
That all being typed you will always have to wait with Virpil, but it's the same with all the "boutique" controller manufacturers. VKB, WinWing/WinCNTRL, and even Mozza all have lead times to delivery. I think about half the time you have to wait for High End Thrustmaster gear.
That leaves you with CH (Crap), Logitech/Saitech, and cheap Thrustmaster gear or offbrands.
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I was an early adopter of Virpil and I haven't looked back.
My first order from Virpil I had to send a wire transfer to Belarus. My bank tried to talk me out of it.
Virpil had just come on the market, and it was between the Mongoos T-50, and the VKB Gunfighter. I went with the Virpil because I felt it was the better value at that time.
:cheers:
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I was an early adopter of Virpil and I haven't looked back.
My first order from Virpil I had to send a wire transfer to Belarus. My bank tried to talk me out of it.
Virpil had just come on the market, and it was between the Mongoos T-50, and the VKB Gunfighter. I went with the Virpil because I felt it was the better value at that time.
:cheers:
That was before they implemented a wait list (It was literally first come first served) and before they moved almost everything to Lithuania. Most of their operations back then was in Belarus.
Buying Virpil back then was an adventure in patients. Many still considered it worth it.
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My brother's orders, still not received. YMMV
12/30/25 stick/base, 2/27 rudder pedals/damper
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Long wait times not uncommon but does seem to be variable.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hotas/comments/1q83813/virpil_order_delays/
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I've had a Virpil throttle for a few years now. Love it. Quality controller I figure will last next to forever. But it did take a couple of months to show up IIRC. Don't remember exactly how long. Have had a VKB stick longer and MFG pedals longer than that. All nice quality stuff. All took a while to show up.
Got the idea I might try helicopters so I ordered a collective and grip back in February. Still shows as "processing". It'll ship eventually and I'll be happy with it once it shows up. Maybe by my birthday this summer!
Thing with all these niche manufacturers, and that's what they are, is they generally build to order. Controllers like these are expensive to make. Not plastic toys like we had back in the early days! They just don't have a hundred units of everything laying on a shelf ready to ship out. Amazon has spoiled us with stuff showing up sometimes in hours! It is what it is.
Oh and hi all!
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Oh and hi all!
Yo Drano! You should get back here. Your pretty girls are all grown up.
- oldman
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Brother said his Virpil arrives Thursday. Don't know if it's just the stick and base or both of his orders.
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Ebay is an option..
I grabbed a Virpil WarBRD base with a heavy duty desk mount for $170 shipped..put a warthog stick grip on it and it works great in the 5th wheel setup.. :joystick:
Even came with 3 sets of springs..
Eagler
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I have the MongoosT-50CM2 Base. It has tension adjustments for the axes and the forward and back axis loosens up over time. I'd put some loctite on the screw but don't want to disassemble the whole base. Anyone dealt with this?
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The is the current model, cm3, guessing it's pretty much the same as my cm2. I suspect this is a view from the bottom looking in. If it's just a matter of removing the bottom plate and adding a touch of loctite here I'm game to try it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/N5LkjLhX/2026-05-12-08-39-59-VIRPIL-US-VPC-Mongoos-T-50CM3-Base.png) (https://postimg.cc/N5LkjLhX)
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I have a 4" extender on the stick and just the weight of the handle causes it to rest off center just a bit when the tension gets too loose. I'm okay with a dead zone of 2 or 3 but more than that just weighs on me. ;)
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Yo Drano! You should get back here. Your pretty girls are all grown up.
- oldman
How's it going old friend! Yeah those girls did grow up. Can't believe we're this old already! Have 4 grandsons now, 6,4,3 and 1. They really keep us running! I haven't logged into the game in a couple of years now other than to see if my controls were still working with it so I could fly in TC's memorial flight. Then my father in law passed, so I had to miss that. Had continued to sub all this time but my most recent CC has expired. I don't think I'll be renewing. My jam was events and when they're down to like 35 guys a side, that's not for me. I do miss what used to be this game and I'll always remember it.
Dabbled with IL2 for a bit but never caught on. It had a P-38 so I had to. I hardly fly in anything anymore but when I am these days it's in MSFS24 flying GA planes (Comanche. Bonanza and Baron--I do have most of the Flying Iron warbirds including their 38--really nice) sightseeing and playing with the nav aids. Flying in weather, clouds and at night using the instruments is fun when you don't have to actually worry about hitting the ground! I haven't even fired up the PC in over a week and have a lot of crap to update before I even fly that now that there's a new version out!
I'd "un-retired" a few years back after trying it for a year because I was not ready at that point in my life to not have to be somewhere and dealing with people I guess. I was bored. Wanted to be busy. Well I certainly have that now. Between work and the grandkids and whatever else my women have planned for me, I don't have much time for anything else. I am however, old enough to where that crap tires me out and I'll crash at night a lot earlier than I ever used to! That does impact watching Dodgers games from my side of the country tho.
Hope all is well with you and yours!
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Brother got his stick today. Now we gotta make him a base.
(https://i.postimg.cc/KRy32yKS/1.png) (https://postimg.cc/KRy32yKS)
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Brother got his stick today. Now we gotta make him a base.
(https://i.postimg.cc/KRy32yKS/1.png) (https://postimg.cc/KRy32yKS)
Sweet :joystick:
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Looks like Virpil is taking pre-orders on their Atlas and Atlas Pro Force Feedback bases.
https://virpil-controls.us.com/shop/force-feedback (https://virpil-controls.us.com/shop/force-feedback)
While it looks cool that is a lot of money to lay down on a "What If". Me personally I'm not going to order until I see real world end user reviews. The Virpil FF base is between a Moza and Brenner in price. Both Brenner and Moza are compatible with some virpil grips including my CM2 stick.
On that note if you are a winwing/winctrl user they also have a Force Feedback base on the way.
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Just a word of warning, and may only apply to my situation, I recently purchased the Brunner FFB-G (https://shop.brunner-simulation.ch/ffb-g-joystick/) and while it works a treat with my other sims, and with AH offline, unfortunately I can't use it in the MA or SEA1 because of the old 10 min stutter/freeze, if I'm not manouvering when the stutter happens, I'm fine, but if I am, the stick loses connection to the game and locks the game up, I don't know if this will apply to the new Virpil and FFBeast sticks, I hope not, but I'm going back to my Warbrd base for AH so I can actually play.
Salute
Steely
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That sure sounds like a USB polling issue to me.
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yep, exactly what I suspect also, it's fine for multi hour sessions in DCS and MSFS, it's fine offline, and for 2 hour bomber missions in the MA, if i'm not manouvering when the stutter happens, I'm fine, but it's ruined 2 FSO's in a row now, just waiting on monstertech mounts for the Warbrd so I can enjoy the last frame
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yep, exactly what I suspect also, it's fine for multi hour sessions in DCS and MSFS, it's fine offline, and for 2 hour bomber missions in the MA, if i'm not manouvering when the stutter happens, I'm fine, but it's ruined 2 FSO's in a row now, just waiting on monstertech mounts for the Warbrd so I can enjoy the last frame
Maybe I’ve been missing something, unless using VR, why not just use DX9? I get zero stutters. 11 is only meant for VR, I see no complaints from VR users.
I know, a beaten path subject
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DX9 is a good point, and would be a solution, but it feels like I'm compromising and making allowances where I shouldn't have to, working around a fixable issue where I shouldn't have to.
To be honest, the AH FFB while fine, is pretty limited, there's only 5 sliders you can adjust, and as you have to set your stick to directx mode so AH can output forces, you miss out on all the extra tweaking you can do in software for say MSFS or DCS, so I'll just swap sticks when I play the other sims, the monstertech mounts make that pretty easy, just 2 bolts to remove the stick on it's baseplate and swap the other one in.