General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: AKKuya on May 07, 2026, 06:05:54 PM
Title: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: AKKuya on May 07, 2026, 06:05:54 PM
It seems that some people have been not following the spirit of the forum category. Is there a place for serious discussion? Of course. In this private forum, the owner has placed some limits. Do those limits restrict all topics? No. Just some that can create very heated discussion.
I'm not a narc. I'm not the police. I'm just an on and off again player. This is my opinion.
There are too many locked threads by the owner. Too many violators of the forum ules.
I totally support violators be banished from the forum. 3 Strike Rule.
1st violation - first warning 2nd violation - final warning 3ed violation - banishment
Just my 2 pennies.
:salute
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: Mayhem on May 07, 2026, 07:42:07 PM
It seems that some people have been not following the spirit of the forum category. Is there a place for serious discussion? Of course. In this private forum, the owner has placed some limits. Do those limits restrict all topics? No. Just some that can create very heated discussion.
I'm not a narc. I'm not the police. I'm just an on and off again player. This is my opinion.
There are too many locked threads by the owner. Too many violators of the forum ules.
I totally support violators be banished from the forum. 3 Strike Rule.
1st violation - first warning 2nd violation - final warning 3ed violation - banishment
Just my 2 pennies.
:salute
Over half the locked threads are due to ONE person who can't STFU. As soon as some one says something that they don't like the insults start flying right up to the point of the Thread being locked. Even some of the more political topics stayed civil until that one person had to opens their Pie Hole. Get rid of them and half our locked threads would have stayed civil. Considering many of these threads were not political says something in and of itself!
My "Flight Sim News Sources." got locked because our resident clown had to spew his feces all over it.
Go look at Reply #19 on: March 14, 2026, 11:39:13 on the "The La-7 Has Been Released" 19 post in the 3rd for this person and they start name calling. The person beeing insulted never response to them but they kept going and piling it on until the thread was locked.
However It doesn't help that the real mods on the forums gloss over real forum rules violations for made up ones. I'm going to guess they are to afraid or just not knowledgeable enough to edit Skuzzy's rules to reflect changes.
The rules have not been changed in over 5 years last time was December 31, 2020, 14:07:40 by hitech
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: knorB on May 07, 2026, 09:09:00 PM
Over half the locked threads are due to ONE person who can't STFU. As soon as some one says something that they don't like the insults start flying right up to the point of the Thread being locked. Even some of the more political topics stayed civil until that one person had to opens their Pie Hole. Get rid of them and half our locked threads would have stayed civil. Considering many of these threads were not political says something in and of itself!
My "Flight Sim News Sources." got locked because our resident clown had to spew his feces all over it.
Go look at Reply #19 on: March 14, 2026, 11:39:13 on the "The La-7 Has Been Released" 19 post in the 3rd for this person and they start name calling. The person beeing insulted never response to them but they kept going and piling it on until the thread was locked.
However It doesn't help that the real mods on the forums gloss over real forum rules violations for made up ones. I'm going to guess they are to afraid or just not knowledgeable enough to edit Skuzzy's rules to reflect changes.
The rules have not been changed in over 5 years last time was December 31, 2020, 14:07:40 by hitech
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: AKKuya on May 07, 2026, 10:46:38 PM
I make it a point to post less serious discussions that are not offensive or against the rules. I do recall one of my threads locked because of the violators.
Maybe some solidarity on this subject is needed.
I do post serious threads in the appropriate forums also. Maturity and respect are all that's required.
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: Mayhem on May 07, 2026, 11:15:20 PM
I'm wee bit erked because I was preparing a post of all the YouTube channels I follow and websites I go to for Gaming, Sim and Hardware News, I spent several hours on that post. The post started going off topic so I was hoping it would get back on target. I went to hit the post button and the thread was locked. I looked into it and sure enough the usual suspect was all over the end of it tossing insults.
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: -gg- on May 07, 2026, 11:24:07 PM
The Dynamics of the moderation policies are what actually fuel the bad behavior in many ways.
When bad actors learned early on that they could go into anybody's thread and disrupt it, them being completely the reason why it's being disrupted, and then have that thread locked.... Well that dynamic right there is the problem. Or one of the major problems.
The moderation policies effectively allow people to shut down threads and punish the people who started the thread that didn't really do anything wrong at all.
I don't think threads should be shut down when a bad actor comes in there and disrupts it, but I'm sure it's probably happening because whoever is moderating the place doesn't have time to weed through everything and figure out who starts what. So they just blanket shut down threads and tag anybody near the crime scene.
This forum and this game was a lot more active when there was almost no moderation. And it was a lot more fun too.
The moderation that is happening here and that begin happening here I don't know 15 years ago? That's the reason why this forum has degraded into being left with only a few busybody a-holes that shut down threads and complain about everything.
If you actually do the opposite and moderate less, you'll have a more vibrant and better forum. Because the bad actors get called out but the members of the actual community. Yeah there might be some toejam flying back and forth, but in the end overall The forum would be a lot better.
And then there's the argument of... Well this is a business and all that. Yeah that's true, but it was a business back in the day when there was very little moderation too and it was actually more successful. I don't think that this game or this forum ever catered to anybody other than world war II buffs who are mostly adults and men.
There used to be so much humor and arguments and fun and vibrancy in this forum. Back in the early 2000s at its peak. And now look at it.
The moderation allowed the complainers and the busy Bodies to be the only ones left basically.
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: LCADolby on May 08, 2026, 01:55:21 AM
Ixnay on the Animale :old:
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: Mar on May 08, 2026, 06:28:42 AM
If you actually do the opposite and moderate less, you'll have a more vibrant and better forum. Because the bad actors get called out but the members of the actual community. Yeah there might be some toejam flying back and forth, but in the end overall The forum would be a lot better.
History keeps repeating itself because people like us are always supressed by fearmongers. They want you to be afraid of freedom.
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: Eagler on May 08, 2026, 06:36:39 AM
I find many locked threads the most interesting..
Eagler
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: Eviscerate on May 08, 2026, 07:05:15 AM
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: Eagler on May 08, 2026, 07:45:02 AM
Bizarre how someone takes some stranger's verbal diarrhea on the internet personal to the point they respond with personal insults instead of to the subject matter of the thread..
I think we are going soft..both physically and mentally.. :old:
Eagler
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: Mar on May 08, 2026, 08:05:27 AM
Right, says the owner of a much more vibrant and better forum.
(https://i.ibb.co/PzJWgpGB/image.png)
You're forgetting 1,000 Results for “white”, if you're going to play that. :old:
Most disturbingly, 10 for "Dolby", one result with Nuke calling me a 8itch and a hypocrite. I thought we were on good terms, I guess the 'front of house' is being a bastard in the 'staff room'...
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: -gg- on May 08, 2026, 09:33:01 AM
You're forgetting 1,000 Results for “white”, if you're going to play that. :old:
Most disturbingly, 10 for "Dolby", one result with Nuke calling me a 8itch and a hypocrite. I thought we were on good terms, I guess the 'front of house' is being a bastard in the 'staff room'...
loll. I call my best friends all kinds of mean things.
We're on goods terms! I'm pretty much very easy to get along with and I people. I think you've said some things about me over here. No big deal. Not going to the HOA over it unless you start playing loud Mexican music.
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: -gg- on May 08, 2026, 09:34:41 AM
By the way, there's no staff. Just me. One hidden forum that you have to be logged in to see. We're currently talking about AH in that forum.
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: knorB on May 08, 2026, 09:40:50 AM
You're forgetting 1,000 Results for “white”, if you're going to play that. :old:
Most disturbingly, 10 for "Dolby", one result with Nuke calling me a 8itch and a hypocrite. I thought we were on good terms, I guess the 'front of house' is being a bastard in the 'staff room'...
Go on FB or X and search for "Mayo Monkey".
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: knorB on May 08, 2026, 10:36:24 AM
I hope you reported that to the homeowners association!
What happens on your site is whatever you would like. What happens on this site is whatever HTC would like. I'm simply pointing out that you may not be the greatest example of how to run a 'vibrant' or 'better' community.
It is unsurprising that all of the folks that live over there are on here, defending racism.
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: knorB on May 08, 2026, 10:56:59 AM
Boosted?
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: -gg- on May 08, 2026, 11:19:42 AM
What happens on your site is whatever you would like. What happens on this site is whatever HTC would like. I'm simply pointing out that you may not be the greatest example of how to run a 'vibrant' or 'better' community.
It is unsurprising that all of the folks that live over there are on here, defending racism.
I never compared my site, only referenced this forum in it's current state and the one before the out of hand moderation that banned/ drove off a vibrant community.
This forum was actually fun, popular and vibrant before the moderation.
Here's a video that gives an example of the type of people that remain here. You might fall into this catagory
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: Mar on May 08, 2026, 11:24:02 AM
It is unsurprising that certain people are still unable to move on from that same old tired line.
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: Dadtallica on May 08, 2026, 11:28:19 AM
What is this moderation that is so oppressive all of a sudden.
All of this stuff has run by one dude who by all accounts seems to have a long leash on this forum.
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: -gg- on May 08, 2026, 11:37:46 AM
I don't think it's all of the sudden. This forum has been dead for years and it began with the "rules" and the moderation and the bans.
They don't ban people as easily now. Skuzzy banned people for almost nothing at times.
Dale seems to go away for days/weeks and then comes back and just shuts down threads and tags people. Probably sucks for him to deal with all the petty stuff.
like I was saying, the way bad actors can come into a thread and get it shut down is a bad dynamic and it allows those turds to harass people through the complainer button, essentially.
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: LCADolby on May 08, 2026, 11:43:01 AM
I never compared my site, only referenced this forum in it's current state and the one before the out of hand moderation that banned/ drove off a vibrant community.
This forum was actually fun, popular and vibrant before the moderation.
Here's a video that gives an example of the type of people that remain here. You might fall into this catagory
This video only applies to about 3 people on the BBS, at least 3 obvious ones :D :old:
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: nopoop on May 08, 2026, 12:01:55 PM
Any lock here is caused by ONE man. Ban HIM.
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: Mayhem on May 08, 2026, 03:22:55 PM
Skuzzy would have edited a bad post replacing the original text listing the rule violation. Skuzzy would give the rule breaker a warning Skuzzy would Persona Non Grata repeat offenders. Skuzzy would only lock threads that were in and of themselves a rules violation, was in the wrong forum/board or gone completely off the rails. If I'm not mistaken Skuzzy would sometimes move threads made on the wrong board. I miss Skuzzy
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: Meatwad on May 08, 2026, 03:30:13 PM
Skuzzy would also allow threads that were fun
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: Mayhem on May 08, 2026, 03:38:43 PM
And Skuzzy would have crushed those 4-5 people posting the BS and it would not need that much monitoring. Skuzzy fingers would have been sore from all the copy and pasting rules on the threads that have wandered off the rails. These guys cant police themselves any more. 85-90% of these same 4-5 guys posts are outside the rules and have no care about it. There are here only to tweak one player or another because they know there are no consequences. Who knows how many they have chased away with their posts.
A really sad view of our game.
Title: Re: Open forum for off-topic and less serious discussions.
Post by: hazmatt on May 08, 2026, 04:51:21 PM