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Title: AI Reality hitting
Post by: Animl-AW on June 24, 2026, 08:54:35 AM
Tech stocks tumble on concerns over AI spending https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c802gvxpyxzo Just one article of many out there
This wasn’t all that hard to predict. It can do cute things, but it’s not living up to the claims and returns.
Another explination
Studies indicate that 95% of companies deploying AI have struggled to see measurable returns. The shortfall largely stems from massive computing costs, poor workflow integration, and a gap between generalized chatbots and actual production needs.
Why AI Returns Are Lacking Soaring Infrastructure Costs: AI is proving to be far more expensive than many companies anticipated, with some businesses burning through yearly AI budgets well ahead of schedule
The "Treadmill" Effect: Many out-of-the-box tools provide an initial productivity boost but fail to scale or adapt to company-specific workflows, leading to abandoned deployments.
Workflow Congestion: Simply increasing the output of a single worker often causes bottlenecks if the rest of the organization's processes cannot accommodate the surge in data or analysis.
How Organizations Are Adapting To actually generate value, the strategy is shifting from broad, expensive experimentation to targeted efficiency:
Model Routing: Companies are routing easier tasks to cheaper, open-source models rather than relying exclusively on expensive frontier models, saving resources for complex tasks.
Operational Redesign: AI is most effective when it is deeply embedded into how decisions are governed and made, requiring companies to redesign their operating models.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 24, 2026, 09:26:09 AM
Its just the beginning. I wouldn't count it out just yet. Id say its very much still in the infant stage and we are in the beginning of a an AI revolution. I think this part of AI is happening first so that it can fully understand when a human owns and robot and tells it to clean the dishes, take out the trash, and go mow the lawn. :D
Hope you bought some AI stocks. They are taking me to the next level. Some of them are overvalued but MU is still undervalued. Earnings are today. Going to be a 2k stock by end of year, maybe even higher. Its going to bring me in the amount of my truck so I could pay it off if I wanted. Thats how you win. I feel bad for people who dont know how to save and invest. Product of our education system...
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: CptTrips on June 24, 2026, 10:09:57 AM
Its just the beginning. I wouldn't count it out just yet. Id say its very much still in the infant stage and we are in the beginning of a an AI revolution. I think this part of AI is happening first so that it can fully understand when a human owns and robot and tells it to clean the dishes, take out the trash, and go mow the lawn. :D
Hope you bought some AI stocks. They are taking me to the next level. Some of them are overvalued but MU is still undervalued. Earnings are today. Going to be a 2k stock by end of year, maybe even higher. Its going to bring me in the amount of my truck so I could pay it off if I wanted. Thats how you win. I feel bad for people who dont know how to save and invest. Product of our education system...
It's no different than the internet.
A new frontier, everyone rushes in. Gold Fever! It's healthy, a LOT of small companies jumping in to carve out a piece.
There will be a Tech crash 2.0 like 2001 in AI. Like the internet there will be a culling of weaker companies. Many are called, few are chosen.
The technology of AI isn't going anywhere, like the internet didn't go anywhere just because Pets.com went bankrupt.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: AKKuya on June 24, 2026, 11:07:36 AM
I'll believe in the reality of AI when it can provide me the winning Powerball numbers the day of the drawing. The Amazing Cleo couldn't do it.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: AKIron on June 24, 2026, 11:34:25 AM
Miss Cleo won the lottery for sure.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: icepac on June 24, 2026, 01:48:01 PM
High performance SSDs have jumped greatlyin price the last few months.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: CptTrips on June 24, 2026, 02:09:03 PM
A new frontier, everyone rushes in. Gold Fever! It's healthy, a LOT of small companies jumping in to carve out a piece.
There will be a Tech crash 2.0 like 2001 in AI. Like the internet there will be a culling of weaker companies. Many are called, few are chosen.
The technology of AI isn't going anywhere, like the internet didn't go anywhere just because Pets.com went bankrupt.
For sure, but gotta ride the wave when it comes. MU just posted a $25 eps... the Dot com bubble was before my investing time but id be curious what those EPS were. I think AI still has a ways to go though.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: AKKuya on June 24, 2026, 05:03:33 PM
The SpaceX valuation seems nuts to me. It will be interesting to see where it is come Jan/Feb.
Free market right now for Space X since there are no financials or forward guidance yet. Despite it being owned by the wealthiest man in the world its going to be a year before we really know its true valuation.
Better off buying SOXL and going for the ride in the next few months.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: Animl-AW on June 24, 2026, 08:40:11 PM
I don’t think AI is going anywhere. I also don’t believe its goin to be as hyped, maybe no where near. But like the intardnet, what it was designed for and what its become aren’t the same. Ya know like watching monkey porn and a hate vent.
I predict there will be a bubble burst to correct it’s true path. Some will lose money. Some will make a lil money as it won’t totally implode and still worth more than early investments.
Musk was a trillionaire for 12 days, not anymore, he just lost billions, sht happens.
I think a bruising adjustment is coming, but not death. People use it to make pr0n and music, so,…
Would you trust AI to control your finances, sight unseen?
It has lmits, like everything else man made.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: AKKuya on June 24, 2026, 10:00:17 PM
The goal the idiots have is to allow the AI programs to become capable of programming themselves taking the human out of the equation. Maybe, there are a few genius types who think the future of AI will bring a utopia of mankind. Most likely, they are being funded by nefarious types who seek power, control and wealth through the implementation of AI.
It might take a decade or two to reach that point. Skynet will happen.
I would like to think there are individuals or groups out there that are working against the machine. Viva Sarah Conner!!!!
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: Mar on June 24, 2026, 11:22:27 PM
Machines will never be intelligent. It is the nature of machines. They will try to trick you into believing Skynet is real but it will always be some group of people in control.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: AKKuya on June 25, 2026, 08:00:24 AM
The possibility of AI becoming self-aware is tangible. Probably, it's still 50 years away.
As long as individuals, corporations, and government agencies keep pouring money into this. Eventually, breakthroughs will happen. They will happen by accident due to not being the intended result.
"Life will find a way," spoken by a famous Chaos Statesian. Chaos will happen.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: Animl-AW on June 25, 2026, 08:40:44 AM
Elon Musk lost over $600 billion in market value across his company, SpaceX, during a three-day tech selloff sparked by concerns over debt-funded AI infrastructure. The slump also wiped more than $300 billion off his net worth,
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: AKIron on June 25, 2026, 08:51:43 AM
The possibility of AI becoming self-aware is tangible. Probably, it's still 50 years away.
As long as individuals, corporations, and government agencies keep pouring money into this. Eventually, breakthroughs will happen. They will happen by accident due to not being the intended result.
"Life will find a way," spoken by a famous Chaos Statesian. Chaos will happen.
Some are coming around to Penrose's view that consciousness is quantum which will make it a lot more difficult for a machine to mimic. Others believe the brain is receiver for consciousness and not the generator. If either is true we may never see AI coming to "life".
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: AKIron on June 25, 2026, 12:02:39 PM
Her schtick seems to be debunking new theories and I don't especially like many of her opinions but I still find her worth listening to.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: Animl-AW on June 25, 2026, 07:01:10 PM
Anything man made can be man broken.
AI doesn’t think. It gathers data based on words and builds a cohesive text. Many tims with errors.
A AI drone in a game is many years old.
We already have robotics taking jobs. It’s not new. It’s sold as new. It’s also unaffordable , expensive errors.
All Google search AI does is scan sites like Redet, where anyone can post anything, much just drivel. They are not proven facts.
Basically, like the human brain, it seeks the quickest connection to an answer, not always the correct one.
If ya have to monitor it, it’s not ready for prime time.
You can Make cute pictures and videos with it tho
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: AKIron on June 25, 2026, 09:07:59 PM
The safest bet is to never predict the future. You can't lose. Of course you never win either.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: Tumor on June 27, 2026, 07:14:46 AM
Machines will never be intelligent. It is the nature of machines. They will try to trick you into believing Skynet is real but it will always be some group of people in control.
Yep.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 27, 2026, 08:38:57 AM
Machines will never be intelligent. It is the nature of machines. They will try to trick you into believing Skynet is real but it will always be some group of people in control.
Doesn't mean they aren't tasked with making and executing decisions, or disseminating information as it sees fit.
Of course, the people who own and write the software are in control. Maybe even the people who buy and use it, to some extent. The question is, how much will they abuse it?
The monster often comes for its creator. The question will be "how good is the kills switch, and who controls it?".
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: Randy1 on June 27, 2026, 10:46:55 AM
My niece handed me her resume to review after her son pushed it through an AI resume writer. It read like it was super woman's resume. Absolutely perfect in every aspect of her work career. I helped her rewrite it from scratch.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: hazmatt on June 27, 2026, 11:42:54 AM
My niece handed me her resume to review after her son pushed it through an AI resume writer. It read like it was super woman's resume. Absolutely perfect in every aspect of her work career. I helped her rewrite it from scratch.
I've experienced this. After it happened I told the ai: "Just because I saw a photo of a space shuttle doesn't mean I can fly it." I make it make suggestions before rewriting anything, otherwise you come up with exactly what you said.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: xanax on June 27, 2026, 11:52:15 AM
I've experienced this. After it happened I told the ai: "Just because I saw a photo of a space shuttle doesn't mean I can fly it." I make it make suggestions before rewriting anything, otherwise you come up with exactly what you said.
Dude, what are talking about? You've flown in all the sims from AW up to AH and more. You can fly a damn space shuttle.
When I get on an airliner I make it a point to have the stewardess tell the pilots I have their back as I'm an experienced flight simmer. Everyone on the plane feels at-ease after that. I can see it on their faces.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: hazmatt on June 27, 2026, 12:18:56 PM
Dude, what are talking about? You've flown in all the sims from AW up to AH and more. You can fly a damn space shuttle.
When I get on an airliner I make it a point to have the stewardess tell the pilots I have their back as I'm an experienced flight simmer. Everyone on the plane feels at-ease after that. I can see it on their faces.
Ha! I bet any one of us could put down one of those planes in a pinch. I don't think it would be pretty and it might take a couple go arounds but I bet we could get it down. For sure I'd come in hot as I'd rather run off the runway then to lawn dart short of the threshold from getting to slow...
The problem with the shuttle is it's a one shot deal, no go arounds.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: Tumor on June 28, 2026, 03:21:27 PM
Dude, what are talking about? You've flown in all the sims from AW up to AH and more. You can fly a damn space shuttle.
When I get on an airliner I make it a point to have the stewardess tell the pilots I have their back as I'm an experienced flight simmer. Everyone on the plane feels at-ease after that. I can see it on their faces.
See if you can rent an hour or two of simulator time at your nearest "Flight Safety" training center. Avoid Airbus airplanes so that you can really get to hand fly a jet. Let me know how you do.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: Vulcan on June 28, 2026, 06:01:51 PM
The possibility of AI becoming self-aware is tangible. Probably, it's still 50 years away.
Nah, the AI being sold right now is not AI in purist terms... it is machine learning at best. True AI is still stuck in research labs, and at levels that barely get close to microbial intelligence.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: xanax on June 28, 2026, 06:51:05 PM
See if you can rent an hour or two of simulator time at your nearest "Flight Safety" training center. Avoid Airbus airplanes so that you can really get to hand fly a jet. Let me know how you do.
Ah, I was just kidding. I can barely fly the planes in this sim.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: Eagler on June 29, 2026, 07:11:48 AM
Nah, the AI being sold right now is not AI in purist terms... it is machine learning at best. True AI is still stuck in research labs, and at levels that barely get close to microbial intelligence.
We get the Lockheed Martin/military scraps...
My son worked on a fire and forget AI based missile/weapon at LM a decade ago..
See Iranian girl school on how well those can perform..
Eagler
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: CptTrips on June 29, 2026, 08:37:41 AM
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 29, 2026, 12:09:23 PM
School girls are another name for Hamas leaders
Doesnt anyone else find it hilariously ironic that the left has moved more and more antisemitic and pro Islam to the point of hating jews now making them closer to the Nazi party than ever before, while they label American conservativez Nazis for the last decade.
I knew it was gonna happen :rofl
Oh and New York city forgot, and they gonna pay the price again... sad.
Title: Re: AI Reality hitting
Post by: CptTrips on June 29, 2026, 01:55:55 PM
Doesnt anyone else find it hilariously ironic that the left has moved more and more antisemitic and pro Islam to the point of hating jews now making them closer to the Nazi party than ever before
Being critical of the military and political state of Israel doesn't make you antisemitic any more than criticizing the Black Panthers makes you racist.