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Title: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: CptTrips on August 18, 2026, 12:16:13 PM
I have to admit, I was somewhat disappointed in the series.  It should and could have been a lot better.  Certainly not as good as BoB, but that might not be a fair comparison.
It was...OK.  But it should have been better.

Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: AKIron on August 18, 2026, 12:56:16 PM
Didn't watch the video but agree it could have been better.
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: AKIron on August 18, 2026, 12:58:37 PM
The old TV series Twelve O'clock High gave a greater sense of the struggle those guys went through.
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: horble on August 18, 2026, 01:03:33 PM
Had a good laugh when they characterized the RAF Night Bombing as the "safe" job
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: Eagler on August 18, 2026, 02:29:58 PM
It wasn't as good as I had hoped it to be but still better than 95% of the televised crap they call entertainment these days..

Lioness is an example of said crap...

Eagler
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: Ramesis on August 19, 2026, 02:43:33 PM
The old TV series Twelve O'clock High gave a greater sense of the struggle those guys went through.

Most heartedly agree with 12 )'clock high but with an honorable mention to Aces High the movie
and Flyboys. :airplane:
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: AKIron on August 19, 2026, 08:45:07 PM
Seems they tried to add a nostalgic flavor to Masters of the Air. I like genuine nostalgia but that sort of manipulation always rubs me the wrong way.
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: Devil 505 on August 19, 2026, 09:05:58 PM
Seems they tried to add a nostalgic flavor to Masters of the Air. I like genuine nostalgia but that sort of manipulation always rubs me the wrong way.

Ok, I'll bite. How so?
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: AKIron on August 19, 2026, 09:44:18 PM
Ok, I'll bite. How so?

More focus on the tone of the era at the base than the war effort. A good war movie for me is about struggle and sacrifice. Not dances and sepia.
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: AKIron on August 20, 2026, 07:23:04 AM
Of course that's just my opinion and the feel I got from the series. Unmemorable.

YMMV.
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: SIK1 on August 20, 2026, 11:15:20 AM
Never saw the tv show.

The scenario was epic.  :aok

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: Devil 505 on August 20, 2026, 04:27:45 PM
More focus on the tone of the era at the base than the war effort. A good war movie for me is about struggle and sacrifice. Not dances and sepia.

I wouldn't call that nostalgia.

Also, I could argue that showing what's happening at the base, especially in the case of the young gunner that goes to the dance with that cute nurse, shows exactly that sacrifice. You're seeing a blossoming relationship that gets erased on the next mission. What's a sacrifice if not that?
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: AKIron on August 20, 2026, 06:08:54 PM
I'm not going to defend how I feel about the series. If you liked it that's great. For me it pales in comparison to Band of Brothers and The Pacific.
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: Meatwad on August 20, 2026, 06:41:32 PM
One of the things that hollywood believes is that every thing it creates that it has to have some type of love scene in it when it is completely unnecessary
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: fd ski on August 22, 2026, 03:34:13 PM
video author rightly points out plot failures, lack of character building, arcs and all that.
but.... this was supposed to have been a historically accurate series, not a single hero discovers himself while flying over Germany. It was about bomber crews, not singular characters.

Yes, those two things were nicely intertwined in Band of Brothers, but those guys made some misteps in this area too - see controversy about private Blithe.

I understand that lack of standard story makes it non-consumable for wider audience, who needs a hero to cheer for and keep their attention, but this isn't that story.

And yes, series was rushed, whole Tuskegee airman bit was unnecessary as it wasn't in a book in anyway, even if it was historically accurate, it brought nothing to the table.
I thought that episode on mental strain was a good one and would have preferred more focus to be shown there, as true horror and losses for bloody 100th aren't made quite clear.

Either way, i'm glad we have it, warts and all. Better that than another stupid superhero crap movie/series.
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: Spikes on August 22, 2026, 03:46:31 PM
The guy has some decent points, also correctly points out the amount of things working against the series (Covid, etc).

I think the series gets unfairly compared to Band of Brothers and The Pacific simply because it was a Spielberg production, but the show was never meant to be "Band of Brothers but in the air". It has its own unique storyline with different perspectives than the other two mini series.

There were certainly some half-baked aspects to it, but overall I thought it was fairly well done and like fdski said - happy we have it and that it brought some attention to a period of time that is slowly but surely being forgotten.
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: Brooke on August 26, 2026, 04:04:40 PM
I liked it.

I think it is good among TV war series shows.  And pretty high among air-combat-oriented movies or shows.

I think Band of Brothers is the greatest war series of all time, and one of the greatest series of any genre of all time.  So I don't take Band of Brothers as the dividing line between good and not good.
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: AKIron on October 10, 2026, 11:13:24 AM
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Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: Brooke on October 10, 2026, 11:48:24 AM
https://www.facebook.com/reel/934680774276902

 :aok
Title: Re: Masters of the Air (2024): Why It Crashed and Burned
Post by: fd ski on October 13, 2026, 03:00:04 PM
I thought that Enternal Zero was way better then Red Tails..... surprised at that score...