Aces High Bulletin Board

Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: 428CJ on October 11, 2026, 01:43:28 PM

Title: Controller disfunction
Post by: 428CJ on October 11, 2026, 01:43:28 PM
 New problem, when taking off the auto take off disconnects and the plane turns left out of control nothing seems to work on stick. Happening more often  does not happen every time.

 Original problem still happening,  game does Not recognize rudder pedals unless i unplug them and plug them in again sometimes has to be done several times this is ongoing.
 I have added usb card to motherboard with no difference changed to old rudder pedals with no change

  Please help its getting so frustrating I dont even want to get in the game.
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: Animl-AW on October 11, 2026, 02:14:40 PM
What brand rudder pedals?
What OS?

You need to recalibrate stick and rudder.

Note, plugging usb into different usb inputs CAN cause some issues. Leave everything plugged in to same inputs. If it’s gear is broken down often it can cause that type stuff. Try to keep things stationary

I would also check cables for a break, usually near connector.
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: The Fugitive on October 11, 2026, 02:15:56 PM
It could all be the same issue, pedals cutting out.

What kind of rudder pedals? Some USB ports are not real good with power management. If your connecting them to the mother board, or to a USB board you added to the motherboard, your motherboard may not have to power to spare for them.

First go through the "Device Manager" and scroll to the bottom of the list and click on Universal Serial Bus controllers. When that open right click on each one, click the "power management" tab and un click "allow computer to turn off......" Be sure to do all of them. This will stop the computer from turning off a USB when it thinks you dont need it powered up.

Second thing Id do is to get a powered USB hub like this one

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Individual-Switches-Included-HB-UMP3/dp/B00TPMEOYM/ref=sr_1_2?crid=30MGWN6VILJF7&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.RUNw1bIoOFx6x8mGbPubdlcojpcPCC2D76vokIp-til_KXZz5thvvQWyfIJsWpen0uSzUKrieMEGhGvgLHhXF8SDVnZJKkuvIUklPx8Gof33TZPMxVxYnsATic9PVOHDVGyus47bwJzpgpqILgweoiJfWxGcDt22AGpMMzt2sUurCEfCcB4_hdH6DhvVaAlusOM-GDbvjQRvz4sUEOOsMm0i6HInYWwnyIMrhw2RROM.39SQ1bppmidV0u_Idw2t2VZBEHPcL846b5eYLMrQ2Pw&dib_tag=se&keywords=powered+usb+hub&qid=1791745811&sprefix=powered+usb+hub%2Caps%2C141&sr=8-2

Any will do as long as it has its own power. You dont want one that run off a USB jack, but one that plugs in the wall.
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: Animl-AW on October 11, 2026, 02:20:31 PM
A powered hub is very help. Sorry didn’t mention it. Many out board devices border being under powered by PC integrated USB ports. Powered usually put out more power
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: 428CJ on October 11, 2026, 04:12:10 PM
 Im running Windows 10

 Rudder pedals are both CH products

 Using a powered usb hub plugged into front port on PC

 In device manager  usb power turn off option is turned off

 Calibrating stick sometimes will seem to help a few take offs  sometimes not
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: Animl-AW on October 11, 2026, 04:52:55 PM
Im running Windows 10

 Rudder pedals are both CH products

 Using a powered usb hub plugged into front port on PC

 In device manager  usb power turn off option is turned off

 Calibrating stick sometimes will seem to help a few take offs  sometimes not

Power turn-off option is turned off? Not sure what you mean

Sounds like the stick may be spiking enough to break free of auto-pot stuff. Then the plane takes over,

Did you look in Windows Game Controller to see what it’s doing?

If you calibrated it in Windows, Stick software and AH that can create issues

Many find success in removing Windows and Software calibrations and strictly use AH cal only.
My VKB drops out of calibration once in a while.  Not often.
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: 428CJ on October 11, 2026, 05:05:23 PM
 Stick is a CH fighterstick

 When i look in computer -  Devices - video and game controllers,    stick and rudder pedals are not there

 the computer usb setting has the power turn off option unchecked
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: JimmyD3 on October 11, 2026, 05:43:44 PM
New problem, when taking off the auto take off disconnects and the plane turns left out of control nothing seems to work on stick. Happening more often  does not happen every time.

 Original problem still happening,  game does Not recognize rudder pedals unless i unplug them and plug them in again sometimes has to be done several times this is ongoing.
 I have added usb card to motherboard with no difference changed to old rudder pedals with no change

  Please help its getting so frustrating I dont even want to get in the game.

That happens to me when I loose my rudder pedal calibration.
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: SIK1 on October 11, 2026, 07:14:22 PM
If you can, try a new powered hub, also try plugging the hub into the back of the pc. The USB ports on the back are on the mobo, the ones on front are connected to the mobo.

Sent from my moto g - 2025 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: The Fugitive on October 11, 2026, 07:57:26 PM
Im running Windows 10

 Rudder pedals are both CH products

 Using a powered usb hub plugged into front port on PC

 In device manager  usb power turn off option is turned off

 Calibrating stick sometimes will seem to help a few take offs  sometimes not

CH sucks, ask me how I know..... I have a couple sets in the closet you can have cheap.

Joking aside, CH is old tech. They use potentiometers and ones that don't cover that wide a range. The software hasn't been updated in years.

In the search bar bottom left of the screen type in "game controllers". Top option should be something like USB and game controllers" of something like that. Click that and it should open the old "game controllers" window with the list of your controllers. Click on the CH rudders and then click "properties" which will open the test/calibrate window. If you made it this far then windows can see the controller.

On the other hand if you still cant see the controller in the list the computer isn't seeing the pedals. If the computer doesn't see the pedals, then either your USB hub is bad or the connection is bad. Do you plug and unplug your controls often? When you finish playing do you unplug them and put your controllers in a draw/closet/under the desk? If so the plugs may be worn out and lose connection causing the issue.

Like SIK said, try another hub or if you dont have one try plugin in the back of the computer for a bit and see if the issue disappears. That front plug may be junk.
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: Animl-AW on October 12, 2026, 10:02:43 AM
If you have a usb to phone adapter you can plug your phone into the hub, if it start charging the connection is probably ok.

Intermittent issues often involve a bad cable. Usb cables go bad easy.

Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: 428CJ on October 12, 2026, 10:32:04 PM
 Windows sees controller and its showing as  ok

 It doesnt matter which usb port I use

 It dosent matter which set of identical rudder pedals is used

 I dont use any programing on the controllers , just the games
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: nrshida on October 13, 2026, 12:12:16 AM
If your CH rudders and stick are old and / or have been sitting for a long while then a can of contact-cleaner might work wonders. Possibly spiking which would knock off your autopilot.
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: 428CJ on October 13, 2026, 07:00:57 PM
 If I had any hair this is where I would start pulling it out.

 Now on  take off -  even with wep on plane will not go fast enough to pull up, it acts like the brakes are dragging.  this was a jug full fuel, I     
can barely get a spit in the air

 Dont think rudder pedals have anythig to do with this, the toe brakes never worked
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: The Fugitive on October 13, 2026, 07:35:24 PM
In the settings folder, there should be a xxxxx.jsm file for each controller you have. Open them with notepad and check for any button labeled "brake". may say "left brake" or "right brake" if you find any that is what is turning on the brakes. You can locate which controller and which switch that way and go into the game and clear it.
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: 428CJ on October 13, 2026, 07:48:37 PM
 The brakes are on the keyboard,  c  and v      brakes have never been on stick or pedals.

 I cant understand this at all
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: The Fugitive on October 13, 2026, 09:39:16 PM
computer glitches could add them to a controller, its worth a look.
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: nrshida on October 14, 2026, 05:26:29 AM
I cant understand this at all

Let's work through this logically by starting with what the game is seeing. In-game open your clipboard and select Options -> Controls -> Map Controllers. Now look at all your primary controls first: Roll / Ailerons, Pitch / elevators, Yaw / rudder and throttle. In each case check the Advanced tickbox then move that controller fully through its axis. Look at the Raw and Scaled slider boxes, the ones with the green lines which move. With scaling turned off do the motions of the Raw roughly match those of the Scaled? Not only the magnitude of movement but do they move smoothly or suddenly jerk, or twitch while your controls are still? Or perhaps only move partially through the full range?

Don't fiddle with anything else until you've checked this and told us.
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: 428CJ on October 14, 2026, 06:35:43 PM
 With scaling off (I dont use it) the rudder green lines move up and down together smoothly. They do that even when the rudder on plane does Not move.

 If the rudder does not work when i get in game (90% of the time) then I have to unplug rudder pedals from  usb port and plug back in then it works most of the time.

 
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: nrshida on October 15, 2026, 01:02:55 AM
You might have two problems one masking the other and announcing as a rudder pedal issue. Did you check all the primary axis? Any one of those can knock your autopilot off. Also can you clarify

They do that even when the rudder on plane does Not move.

I think you should see the graphical rudder move if it's mapped correctly with autopilot / takeoff off.

Usually a controller needed to be unplugged constantly would suggest a powered hub. Sensible addition for AH.

It isn't easy to help someone with controllers by typing periodical text. Of course we're assuming you've calibrated them in Windows first and then in game as well?
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: 428CJ on October 15, 2026, 02:42:49 PM
 When i go into calibrate, advanced, both green lines move together smoothly when i move the rudder pedals - but the rudder on plane does Not move.  If I uplug pedals from usb port or turn it off then turn it back on or plug it back in most of the time the rudder on plane works.

 Using a powered usb hub

 Do I need a new controller or new computer? 

 I have a asus sabretooth Z77 motherboard, i5-3570 chip, 16 ram, rtx 3050 graphics card
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: Animl-AW on October 15, 2026, 06:48:17 PM
When i go into calibrate, advanced, both green lines move together smoothly when i move the rudder pedals - but the rudder on plane does Not move.  If I uplug pedals from usb port or turn it off then turn it back on or plug it back in most of the time the rudder on plane works.

 Using a powered usb hub

 Do I need a new controller or new computer? 

 I have a asus sabretooth Z77 motherboard, i5-3570 chip, 16 ram, rtx 3050 graphics card

PC sounds fine

The. Pedals, maybe Stock may just need cleaning under the hood. I may replace cables. If you’re not comfortable doing those things ya might consider new.

I’d still research maintenance options. Sometimes the fix is easy, troubleshooting it not so much.

Still reminds me of a connection issue

If your cables disconnect and you have the right adapter you can plug into the cable thats plugged into the hub with a cell phone like the hub test.
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: Randy1 on October 17, 2026, 02:47:09 PM
CJ, CH products are a bit of a problem because of driver issues and they sure just getting older by the day.  Good stuff in their day.

Try this to see if windows will put you in a CH like driver.  If PC is off unplug CH pedals.  Strat PC. Once up and running plug back in CH pedals,
Another way is if your PC is up and running  unplug the pedals.  Restart PC, then shutdown PC, then plug in pedals, power up the PC.
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: 428CJ on October 17, 2026, 08:01:31 PM
 Thanks everyone.  I have found at least part of the problem, turns out the toe brakes were dragging ( pots ?) and causing plane go to slow on take off or veer off the runway during auto takeoff. I ordered new pedals hopefully that will take care of most or all of my problems. 
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: 428CJ on October 18, 2026, 01:30:59 PM
 New rudder pedals (Thrustmaster) set up & calibrated still the rudder does not move on plane unless i unplug and plug back in the pedals.

 
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: The Fugitive on October 18, 2026, 02:38:26 PM
Did you use the same jack or a different one?
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: Animl-AW on October 19, 2026, 12:44:17 PM
I would not get rid of old pedals. -gg- has restored a set of CH stick and pedals with simple elbow grease cleaning. I would get in touch with her on her process with CH.
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: Animl-AW on October 19, 2026, 12:49:19 PM
Can’t remember if you tried this

Disable Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controllers sleep mode
How to disable USB ports from automatically entering sleep mode on Windows. When the USB port enters sleep mode, it can cause a peripheral to “time out” and become unresponsive to the operating system.
To disable USB sleep mode
1) Right Click the Start Menu Icon on lower left of screen. Select Device Manager to open it.
2) Scroll to the bottom and click the arrow next to Universal Serial Bus Controllers to expand the list.
3) Right click each item that has HUB in it and select Properties
4) Click the Power Management tab.
5) Make sure the Allow computer to turn off this device to save power box is unchecked on all HUBs that allow it.
6) Click OK to close the window.

It’s time to take s deeper look at cables and connections, but I’m not leaning hard there.
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: 428CJ on October 21, 2026, 08:16:52 PM
 I am losing it, new rudder pedals (thrustmaster) came, used them,  tried new patch dx11 had stutters so went to dx9  now both rudder pedals do not work in either dx9 or dx11.

 Both CH and thrustmaster pedals will calibrate and under advanced the green lines move smoothly but the rudder does Not move on the plane.

 I cant fly now    HELP
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: SIK1 on October 22, 2026, 10:05:28 AM
It sounds like the USB ports are turning off, from this statement.
New rudder pedals (Thrustmaster) set up & calibrated still the rudder does not move on plane unless i unplug and plug back in the pedals.

How many USB devices, besides your flight controllers do you have connected to your computer?  There is a limited amount of power available to the USB computer ports, and some mobos don't really handle them very well.

Do you hear the USB connect/disconnect chime when you are flying, or when you unplug/plug your pedals?

Does your computer use an rgb controller? I don't know if it's still a thing but there was a time when rgb controllers were causing issues with USB devices. If you are using one try disconnecting it and seeing if that resolves the controller issue.

 :salute
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: 428CJ on October 22, 2026, 12:06:05 PM
 There are rudder pedals, joystick, mouse, keyboard and a mic that use usb ports.
 
 I put in a card that has 7 usb ports,     i also have a 7 into 1 powered usb hub

 There is a chime whenever i plug or unplug from usb port,  or turn port off and on with button

 Doesnt seem to matter what port i use

 It used to be I could turn off or unplug pedals and they would work  sometimes calibrating would do it
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: JimmyD3 on October 22, 2026, 01:00:07 PM
What mode are you operating the pedals in?
Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: SIK1 on October 22, 2026, 01:04:50 PM
You might try removing the usb expansion card, they can cause issues with the onboard usb controllers. Then try plugging your powered hub into one of the usb ports on the back of the computer, and plug your controllers into the powered hub.

Title: Re: Controller disfunction
Post by: turt21 on October 22, 2026, 05:49:59 PM
If I had any hair this is where I would start pulling it out.

 Now on  take off -  even with wep on plane will not go fast enough to pull up, it acts like the brakes are dragging.  this was a jug full fuel, I     
can barely get a spit in the air

Ive only re-upped a couple weeks ago and had same trouble. When I unhooked the pedals everything was fine. Now using rudder on stick