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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: NUTTZ on April 13, 2001, 10:49:00 PM
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Thanx for opening up my eyes Spivey,, AH just lost another subscriber.
When you log on to find people cutting up a whole generation of music and ideas ( my generation) and tieing it into the game, and telling people if they don't like it cancel your account. I've realized the MA and this Game is no longer fun for me. Telling people to go find another game if they want to " have Fun" is screwed up. I'm not going to plunk down 30 bucks a month, so some loud mouth can start pissing people off in the MA just because they feel like it.
Spivey maybe you can double down on your money to HTC, cause this subscriber is gone for good.
NUTTZ ( Rash)
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When you log on to find people cutting up a whole generation of music and ideas ( my generation) and tieing it into the game, and telling people if they don't like it cancel your account.
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NUTTZ, sounds like you been buffalo'd by the vast sea of pea brains! congrats!
In my world I say "Screw em" and if something like this is your sole reason for *finally* leaving mebbe its just time to move on anyhoo.
<S>
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Nuttz-
I know you have been frustrated with HTC at times, and that is understandable given the effort you have put into your maps. I hate to see you leave, but even more so because you are a person who has voluntarily given to the community something valuable. No community ever wins by losing someone such as yourself.
I wasn't on tonight, I don't know what happened, but I suspect it could be worked out. Please reconsider. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
[This message has been edited by Kieran (edited 04-13-2001).]
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Nuttz, I'm sorry to see you leave. I would never let any one person be the cause of not having any fun with an online game. I would just squelch them and have a damn good time!
Cool off and come on back.........
Thorns
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Sounds like someone looking for an excuse.
AKDejaVu
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What happened tonight NUTTZ?
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Nuttz, only got to see one of your terrains but it was really dazzling, you got some talent there, hope ya reconsider bud!
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Nuttz
Hey man, another player mouthing off is never a good reason to leave a great thing. I'll go out on a limb here and beg ya not to go. Personally, I've never seen you be or do anything negative to any game, quite the opposit really...stick around man, take a breath, calm down and start over.
SwampRat
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I suspect you have a beta spot in that adult sim there working on. Its hard to work up much sympathy for you (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
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I know just how you feel Nuttz.
When RAM was forced out by everyone being insensitive a#*holes, knowing he was almost always right, I knew the majority would feel the oppression of this community sooner than later. A exodus was immanent.
<S!> man!
Im right behind you as soon as I get back from holiday Monday.
I get you a invite to the WWIIOL beta team.
Well show em...well show em all! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Nuttz I had quite a bit of respect for you for your work with the terrains etc but its mostly lost with this 'oh look at me I'm quitting' theatrical flouncing off. Your reasons look nothing but an feeble excuse to spit back at a few people and use them as an excuse as to why you're leaving..nothing to do with another sim looking for terrain editors and a possible BETA spot I suppose?
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Hate to see you go Dave...ifluff'n you ever come back this way or find better grass elsewhere let us know over at 54 SQ.
RAS
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So half the responses is slamming the man, in spite of a "soft" exit.Rather enlightning IMO.
Never met you NUTTZ but a <S> from here.
danish
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So half the responses is slamming the man, in spite of a "soft" exit.Rather enlightning IMO.
Yea the commin attitude seems to be that if you cancel your account you are nothing more to a piece of toejam.
Nuttz made countless maps that are far better than any of HTC's maps, he has always been nice to everyone, never coused any problems at all....now he is leaving ..and he is a piece of toejam...
"enlightning" indeed....pathetic fits better though...
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I don't think the term 'nothing more to a piece of toejam' is the general feeling here, yes Nuttz has turned out some great work and I don't want to see him go but a goodbye would have done. I've watched posts like these years ago when people left Warbirds for Aces High and made posts like this that unsettle the community and now its happening again in Aces High, If you're going to leave for another sim then just say goodbye, don't stir things up.
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Nuttz,
I was on last night while this was going on....I'm not sure it is a reason to really quit. Just squelch the guy, who cares.
When folks get going on country channel, I look at it as a form of entertainment. Or, hehe, as a future case study for some Sociologist on pre-evolutionary human behavior (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Cobra
Oh and Asts....you got it just a bit wrong, Ram was ALWAYS right, not almost always (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by danish:
So half the responses is slamming the man, in spite of a "soft" exit.Rather enlightning IMO.
Never met you NUTTZ but a <S> from here.
danish
Danish,
Thats a HUGE stretch to say the least. The majority of the posts here actually support Nuttz and are asking him to stay!
I need to get some of those glasses you have.
Cobra
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Absolutely right, Wobble.
Whatever happened to civility? Try expressing regret at Nuttz' decision, praise his many contributions, and wish him well in the future. Maybe if he got a ton of responses with those sentiments it would outweigh whatever happened in the MA and he would reconsider.
Nuttz, please keep your handle the same wherever you land, because you add a lot to a sim and I'd like to know where you are. You are a credit to any community. <Salute>
Personally I deal with the MA by squelching channel 1 as the first order of business when I enter. It's anti-social, but so are most of the loudmouths in the MA.
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Originally posted by Asts:
I know just how you feel Nuttz.
When RAM was forced out by everyone being insensitive a#*holes, knowing he was almost always right, I knew the majority would feel the oppression of this community sooner than later. A exodus was immanent.
<S!> man!
Im right behind you as soon as I get back from holiday Monday.
I get you a invite to the WWIIOL beta team.
Well show em...well show em all! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Oh, Nice to hear from you RAM, long time no see.
Crabofix
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LOL Field Marshal von Rametzasts (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
NUTTZ just squelch the tards man!
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NUTTZ when the mongrels moved over from Warbirds I had a rough two weeks. Came across a fellow (who is no longer here) who called me all kinds of colorful epithets on more than one occasion. I came real close to closing my account because, like you that is not what I pay $30 a month for. I did not fly for several days and really stewed over what was said. Kieren and ghosth urged me not to and to inform HTC of the comments made. I sent them a couple of screen shots. I have no idea what they did or if my complaint contributed to his departure, but he is gone and I am still here. I am glad of that and I am sure he is not.
I hate to think of all the customers HTC have lost because of a few loud mouth obnoxious jerks that fly in this game. They show a lot more tolerance then I would because it is "a place of business" and as pyro has put it, their livelihood. Of course others think that freedom of speech holds a higher value then an individuals dignity. Freedom of speech is not absolute in "real life" nor should it be in this community.
I hope you stick around.
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To me it seems more and more clear every day that the survival of _any_ online media, be it a game or chatroom, is totally dependent on effective hosting.
It's the responsibility of the host to protect the users from the few anarchic idiots (sometimes as old as 8 years old..)
Kids nowadays are brought up so bad that they can not control of what they do publicly. Therefore they must be punished for their actions swiftly.
We all know where the limits go.. A couple words said in anger hurt nobody, we're all capable of that. But when it continues to the level of disrespect for the others, it's time for the loud-mouth to leave IMO.
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There may be a way to effectively maintain a pleasant community atmoshere with permanent squelch lists. You don't like the comments someone is making? Squelch them. The person who is the object of the most squelches during a tour could be suspended or removed.
One thing I like about this is it takes the pressure of policing the community off of HTC, and leaves it up to us. A person removed in such a way can't attack Pyro or HT, because the whole community had input to his removal or suspension.
You'd want to be careful how this was implemented, so that an organized squad or two couldn't be responsible for removing a player. But if the squelches are by a broad cross-section of the community, I think HT could be justified in removing the player. At the very least it'd give HT or Pyro hard numbers about how disliked a player is in the community...
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It seems what this community needs is sensitivity awareness courses. We need to get more in touch with the needs of other players and learn how to make things better for everyone.
I propose several on-line sessions with Stuart. Just starting with some self-affirmation would be a great step in the right direction. Then we could move on to why it is bad to dog a musicle genre because it might hurt people's feelings.
Nuttz,
You've been ready to go for a few months. I'm sorry for that. I wish you'd stay. I also wish you didn't take the time to finger someone as the root cause of your departure. I know its not the case.
Your actions are no better than anyone you cite as reasons for you leaving. The actions of people that join this thread condemning the community for being so condemning need to seriously rethink their posts too.
Basically, your work here will be missed. It was an excellent contribution. Most wish it would continue and that you'd stay. I simply wish you'd make up your mind quietly.
AKDejaVu
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ahh heck. What I think some of you might be missing is that one incident does not make a decision like this, all you see is the straw that broke the camels back.
Nuttz take it easy, and see ya in the virtual skies.
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I sort of like Oboe's idea.
Let the HTC computer keep track of the number of times a player has been squelched by anyone.
Don't do anything with the info until the end of the tour.
Then post "Squelch Stats". (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Deja can then use his bot to post a "top ten" list. We could a few categories like "Most Total Squelches", "Most Squelches on CH1", "Most Squelches on Country Channel".
It wouldn't identify who did the squelching, just who the entire community thinks deserves squelching most often.
Maybe this would serve as the necessary "peer pressure".
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Yes I agree. The community should have a means of self regulation..
The player community lives in a weird combination of dictatorship (HT) combined with anarchy (dweebs)
HT is reluctant to do anything to the anarchy for several reasons, money, false accusations etc. However I think he will soon find out that if nothing is done, the whole game WILL have bad spirit and the old time people who really are the essence of this game will move on.
We must plee HT to give us a way to self-regulate. We love this game and I'm sure no-one of us wants to see it go down the drain.
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I know just how you feel Nuttz.
When RAM was forced out by everyone being insensitive a#*holes,
knowing he was almost always right, I knew the majority would feel the
oppression of this community sooner than later. A exodus was immanent.
<S!> man!
Im right behind you as soon as I get back from holiday Monday.
I get you a invite to the WWIIOL beta team.
Well show em...well show em all!
LMAO@Ram
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Originally posted by Revvin:
Nuttz I had quite a bit of respect for you for your work with the terrains etc but its mostly lost with this 'oh look at me I'm quitting' theatrical flouncing off. Your reasons look nothing but an feeble excuse to spit back at a few people and use them as an excuse as to why you're leaving..nothing to do with another sim looking for terrain editors and a possible BETA spot I suppose?
At first I wasn't going to reply, but i must
First this is not a theatrical "i quit post" Or references to those other guys. I quit before very quietly and came back because hostile shores grabbed my interest ( the reason I'm now Rash not NUTTZ). The boards have degraded into pissing matches, positive and game enhancment post get little to no recongnition ( looking at Gnappo's and Jihads post). That maybe the start of the reasoning for leaving but still hardly enought to leave. Am I on "another beta"? Yup been there many months and my name was linked, I never hid that fact. But I still had an AH account and flew regularly. Everything offline is really really going well. But the banter online has gotten steady .squelches, people picking fights just because they " feel like arguing with someone" Well, like everyone else i plunk down my monies to get my personal enjoyment outta this game ( knows "this is NOT a game" comments will flood in" ) lately logging into the MA is like stepping into a 3rd grade pissing match, totally unenjoyable to me. I have Thick skin, but this is really getting old, last night was the last straw to break the camels back. Somebody was having a bad night and set out to make people around him more miserable, well you acomplished your Goal <S> I wanted to let that person know, so the reason for my " I Quit Rant"
NUTTZ ( Rash)
For the people that had kind words about me , Thanx it feels good.
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"Let the HTC computer keep track of the number of times a player has been squelched by anyone"
Toad. I get kicked out of H2H arenas all the time. I never said one word. My only crime. Long kill streaks. Guys like Artlaw would be squelching anybody that shot them down.
People like citabiera, torque, and maybe even you, would be on the squelch list the day it started.
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You know what the most pathetic thing of all is?
We actually need HTC to monitor the arena for infantile actions.
When the internet was hourly and so was the game, only the rich amazinhunks would come online with the sole intention of being amazinhunks... and those were few and far between.
Hell, now there's free internet... *sigh*
"Mommy, can I go out and play with the other kids in Aces High?"
"Sure son, just make sure HTC puts on the bad word filter and has a lot of 'adults' monitoring your playing."
Pathetic really... just diddlyin pathetic.(not directed at you Nuttz)
-SW
[This message has been edited by AKSeaWulfe (edited 04-14-2001).]
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easymo: What was that you said about artlaws?
Get your facts straight first, then make accusations please.
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Just what we need , more net police ..
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Nuttz, if you are gonna get pissed off cause I make jokes abour the Beatles, then it is YOU who need to lighten up! And BTW YOU threatened to cancel your account (like that threatens me) and when I say "go ahead" you make it sound like I MADE YOU LEAVE??? Oh friggin please.
There's a little thing called squelch. Ever try that? No you didn't.
Now to address your point: I have taken issue ALL my life with the notion that winning and making yourself better at something is the antithesis of having fun! Your arguement is, "Don't worry about winning! Don't worry about teaching newbies strategy! Don't worry about getting better! Just have fun!" Paugh! I was horsing around in the game but now I am serious. Don't pin you whiney "I am taking my plane and going home" attitude on me. You wanna play? Play. You don't? The cancel your account. It's on you man!
Spivey out.
taken Originally posted by NUTTZ:
Thanx for opening up my eyes Spivey,, AH just lost another subscriber.
When you log on to find people cutting up a whole generation of music and ideas ( my generation) and tieing it into the game, and telling people if they don't like it cancel your account. I've realized the MA and this Game is no longer fun for me. Telling people to go find another game if they want to " have Fun" is screwed up. I'm not going to plunk down 30 bucks a month, so some loud mouth can start pissing people off in the MA just because they feel like it.
Spivey maybe you can double down on your money to HTC, cause this subscriber is gone for good.
NUTTZ ( Rash)
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I've been away from AH for a long time. When I digup a faster PC I'll be back. However, there is such a thing as being overly sensitive and I friggen hate the cheats which are everywhere. As such, it can get very frustrating to sort the really god like from the code altered opportunists and after a few years there is no way to prevent eventually loosing it on an open channel.
However, I am unsure what Nuttz is on about, but it does seem like the younger players are having a laugh at civility and I would like to remove all the under 18's from the game.
My point about underage players and overly sensitive squelchers begins with my getting this Email from WB's
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Dear Warbirds Player:
iEN is committed to the Warbirds community. Part of what makes Warbirds so
great is the community spirit. Given the fact that it's a combat
simulation, sometimes tensions run high.
I've had complaints that you've been abusive to another player in the arena.
Including some inappropriate remarks to his 12 year old niece. This is
unacceptable. Everyone is welcome to play in the arena to relieve some
stress and relax. That becomes impossible when others are verbally abusing
them. This behaviour violates the TOS contained in your Policies and
Conduct.txt (located in your Warbirds folder). If it continues, I will lock
your account.
Please remember while you are in the arena that this is a family game.
Kent W. East Jr.
iEN Community Events Manager
This kind of Email from out of nowhere was some kind of a joke and is why I left Warbirds and why HTC may not want to send out these emails. There is no truth online! Chat box or otherwise. Eventually it is ramified in signoffs.
I don't believe a few words over a chat box did Nuttz the damage, I think it starts somewhere else and we have all felt it.
RASTER...Revin is still a 'Puck' to me
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Funny how you quote me on words i never said. More or less you trash talked a whole generation Because they weren't flying your tactical way and our idea of "fun" had nothing to do with your tactical expertise, then we should cancel our accounts. I believe the quote was " you beatle lovin.. flower sniffing.."i just want to have fun weenies..." should go find another game to play. Then you continued to put words in my mouth about Something somebody else said, when i asked why you were giving me a hard time you said you felt like pissing somebody off. My point for cancelling my account, I refuse to log on and have somebody trying to piss me off because they " just" feel like it. And i think that was what HTC is talking about in the other threads. wasn't really what you said ,but the tone it was said.
Maybe i should of squelch, maybe not, but it's my choice to fly where, when, and how, and not yours. Your attitude last night to the rooks and anyone flying was Uncalled for. If you are having a bad night , you needed to log, instead of chasing off the ones that were online.
One less paying customer to HTC is no big deal, so i guess this argument is mute.
NUTTZ
Originally posted by Spivey:
Nuttz, if you are gonna get pissed off cause I make jokes abour the Beatles, then it is YOU who need to lighten up! And BTW YOU threatened to cancel your account (like that threatens me) and when I say "go ahead" you make it sound like I MADE YOU LEAVE??? Oh friggin please.
There's a little thing called squelch. Ever try that? No you didn't.
Now to address your point: I have taken issue ALL my life with the notion that winning and making yourself better at something is the antithesis of having fun! Your arguement is, "Don't worry about winning! Don't worry about teaching newbies strategy! Don't worry about getting better! Just have fun!" Paugh! I was horsing around in the game but now I am serious. Don't pin you whiney "I am taking my plane and going home" attitude on me. You wanna play? Play. You don't? The cancel your account. It's on you man!
Spivey out.
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Raster,
One thing I would like to comment on,
Your opinion that all under-18 players shouldn't be flying is..well... crap in my mind.
There are some great sticks out there who are younger, and the stereotype you flout is offensive to those who are not 'of age.' Including me as well.
This is one of the first times I've seen age being brought up on this board as a factor. Maybe because in Aces High, 40 year olds can act like 7th graders and vice versa. There aren't many 'kids' in here, but give some respect to those that are.
I'm not overly sensitive, but it's a pet peeve to be stereotyped.
As for your claims of all the 'cheats' out there.. well, nevermind. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
(this is entirely my opinion, which means you can regard it as crap or you can respect it as someone bringing another side to the table)
edit: two things -
A - Nuttz, personally I think highly of you and every single customer *does* count
B - I'm 18. 'nuff said.
[This message has been edited by Moose11 (edited 04-14-2001).]
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Maybe getting rid of Channel 1? And the messages telling you who you killed and who killed you would help? Hell I'll blame it on the Perk System too (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
Then theres these forums... HTC has control over them. They own/run them dont they? If there is any posts they do not feel should be there then they should remove them. They have the right to!
If you had a forum of your own and thought someone posted something there that you felt shouldnt be there would you remove it? I would. If you have a point to get across go get your self some webspace and post your message and see who shows up. If alot of people show up charge a subscription price and start your own game.
I very much enjoy this game and I dont have channel 1 turned on at all. My son (7 years old) likes to see what his old man is up to and he reads everything. sometime I even have to turn off my country channel. But If someone is trying to get ahold of me they do by sending it to me directly. Of course I get plenty of chat from my squad too.
If there are issues with gameplay or your stressing more over a game than with your work/school/life then that should be a reasonable reason for leaving... but if someone is driving you "NUTTZ" (sorry couldnt resist) then they should be the ones getting escorted to the door.
This is supposed to be fun and relaxing. Why am I posting this? I dont even know you NUTTZ/Rash. Maybe I am seeing a trend in here that I just dont like to see? Most of the people here are very good people and treat each other very well. Some people like it so much here they live here. I dont like anything well enough to spend 200+ hours a month in and some people here do it!!!! I dont spend more than 20-30 hours a month on any of my hobbies!! I gotta spend 160 hours a month making money to pay for my hobbies that dont leave me with much time.
Heck I pay my money so I can fly one of my most favorite planes, the Ar234 (which I have NOT gotten to fly in the MA yet!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif), my other favs B-58 and B-1 I love the challenge of sneaking in and blasting stuff and sneaking out hopefully alive) I enjoy my freetime and flying is my hobby.
If you enjoy it you should stay. If there are issues with the community then just dont "mingle" as much and turn off CH1 and ignore people you dont want to talk to.
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Chuck Perry
"Sky61"
[This message has been edited by Skysix1 (edited 04-14-2001).]
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Pssst: for the ar234, just fly the Ju88 a lot. Your A2A kills give your more points than your bomb hits.
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Oh my was that fun tonight Ding,
Plinking ostys with a Ju88 after losing my beloved 234 to a Nikki. Earned 20 perks in about 45 min (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Definitely relaxing - why can't that experience be the same for everyone?
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IMO the problem is not only age, but juvenile acting people in general.
I've met some _really_ stupid individuals in this game and they really kill the immersion and fun from the game.
We all signed the end-user lisence when we took an account.. What's wrong with enforcing the rules?
A player who continuously harasses other players, cheats or flies n1k (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif) should be put under surveillance by HT and removed unless they better their ways.. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Dinger:
Pssst: for the ar234, just fly the Ju88 a lot. Your A2A kills give your more points than your bomb hits.
I usually do fly the Ju88 or Lanc but just cant get in to fly enough to earn the points. I have 75 now after a month but dont want to fly the Ar234 cause if I do lose it then it could be another month (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) I waiting till I hit 100 then I will fly it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Chuck Perry
"Sky61"
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Hey Skysix,
Change over to rooks sometime and Im sure Dinger and I would help you get those perks.
Last night I just concentrated on getting the 70 back that I lost because otherwise I would miss out later this week when Zigrat ran another Arado HQ raid. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) I got 30 perks in about 45 minutes of bombing ostwinds, m16s, and panzers...
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NUTTZ,
I've really loved your terrains.
Sorry to see you go.
Nuff said
Pei
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We're fighting for this woman's honour, which is more than she ever did.
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wtf is this, the COunter-Strike forum?
jeez
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Sorry Moose11, what I ment to say was, I don't want anyone under 18 playing adult games.
RASTER clearly a misunderstanding (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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You mean you guys haven't mapped a squelch spivey macro key yet ?
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Hey Nuttz,
If you get the desire to fly a little AH come on in my arena. If anyone gets nasty I will eject them. Oh....the power...the absolute POWER...LOL
Dont take what some of these posts say too seriously. If you read the board very much you will see that stating your intentions to leave or voicing an opinion that is not generally agreed with will surely get you treated like crap on this BB. Some people have nothing better to do than insult and try to embarass others. Take care dude, and the maps were awesome. Remember you are welcome in Zapkin's world no matter what kind of music you like. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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I am not an evil bastard, i just play one on Aces High
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Watch it NUTTZ, I get my butt handed to me alot more brutally in Zapkins world than I did in the MA. Now that's pretty brutal!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
NUTTZ, you're a pretty level headed person, I'm surprised you let little ole spivey get to ya. Ya might just need a small break. Hope ya ended up flying AH again!
Good Luck!
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Swager
On Leave 3./JG2~Richthofen~[/i]
"Enjoy yourselves now... for I'll be back"
3./JG2 (http://members.home.net/winyah999/3jg2.htm)
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Why anyone would take seriously what some toejamhead they've never met typed into the buffer is totally beyond me. You need a sense of community, join the gym, take classes, go to the neigborhood bar. Ya got kids do stuff with them, join the Godamn PTA, but dont expect community feel good stuff or any other redeaming commentary from an arena populated by pimply faced teenagers yankin on their joysticks. If ya happen to read somethin in the buffer ya like fine, but dont expect it and if ya cant manage to keep it from causing ya real world stress then squelch it and cut what ever amount of time ur spending playin' the game in half and start frequenting the community arena's I've mentioned above. Geez, ..I dont even read the buffer.....what the hell for.
CRASH
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lol i agree with crash
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sounds like you got a nasty case of 'whinitis fatiguous'.
it is characterized by long sighs, shaking head and an insatiable urge to slap someone.
it tends to come on in the presence of dedicated whiners. people that get on night after night and pollute the buffer with their blathering and bellyaching.
you know, those people who are never wrong, and never make flying errors, only the victim of some cruel internet or code manipulation. you mentioned one of them - really..... who isnt sick of these whiney girls.
if it is any consolation they irritate everyone, but it is their only sense of power. in every other aspect of their lives they are neutered little niles cranes.
kinda like the guy that struts out into the middle of the street against the light and dares you to run him over - and you would of course if it didnt mean 20 yrs in san quentin! you have to be sad to get off of toejam like that - just pity the little sods!
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I still remember that one guy who got pissed because what someone wrote in text-buffer, yelled to his child after it and then blamed that other guy because his child begun to cry.
Its easy to find excuse from here (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by zapkin:
Dont take what some of these posts say too seriously. If you read the board very much you will see that stating your intentions to leave or voicing an opinion that is not generally agreed with will surely get you treated like crap on this BB.
Actually, if you post your opinion, generally agreed with or not, like a squeaky & spoiled little 12 year old who hasn't taken his riddlin lately, you are likely to get flamed. If you post it like a rational adult who has a concern about something, you're likely to start a decent discussion. Most of your posts seemed to fall into the former category, hence you got out of a thread what you put into it. There are a few people who would flame you regardless, but you'll find people like this anywhere.
Good luck wherever ya go Nuttz. Your maps were always pretty damned cool, and I had lots of fun in your pacific map with that maze in the middle (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
SOB
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Originally posted by Asts:
I know just how you feel Nuttz.
When RAM was forced out by everyone being insensitive a#*holes, knowing he was almost always right, I knew the majority would feel the oppression of this community sooner than later. A exodus was immanent.
<S!> man!
Im right behind you as soon as I get back from holiday Monday.
I get you a invite to the WWIIOL beta team.
Well show em...well show em all! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Hello Creamo.
To all the rest, I am NOT this idiot. First of all because he chose a bad timing (been out of the city for 4 days in a row, and away from any kind of computers). And secondly because I post only under R4M handle (RAM was erased on the BB crash some months ago)
Really sometimes he gets really really tiring...
Creamo, get back into your hole.
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Originally posted by R4M:
Hello Creamo.
Asts is also a callsign in the MA... And I believe it's your callsign in the MA RAM. I distinctively remember arguing with this Asts character about the D9s guns.. something about I wasn't worth the argument... Prolly cuz I was right and the fact that Asts had no proof as to why he "felt" the guns were screwy.
-SW
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SW, yes, I fly under the handle "asts" on the Main arena. Is no secret at all; I returned shortly after the D9 was released on AH.
I've not said it on #1 openly, but have always answered "hello RAM" greetings. Many knights will tell you that, as well.
Recently I've joined Jg54 and said it so on an open thread in this same forum. I think that Creamo has only enough brains to realize who was me only after that, even while, as I said, I've had no special cautions to remain in anonimate. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
And of course, he chose to do the stupid joke. By the way, I think that using fake identities taking other's handle, is expreselly forbidden on this BBS nettiquete, but maybe I'm wrong. (not that I really care, of course (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)...but sometimes he gets REALLY old)
It is as simple as that this guy "asts" on the board is not me. That is what I mean. And knowing Creamo,I would bet a beer that is one of his stupid jokes.
Take a look at his # of posts. he has five, only one of them on public forums. Even while i've just joined JG54 I still dont have the password to post there. I bet another beer that the other four posts are on the FDB board.
BTW I sent a mail to recover my original handle some weeks ago. Still got no answer, tho.
[This message has been edited by R4M (edited 04-16-2001).]
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If someone is using other guys handle when posting in UBB imho HTC should ban him immediately.
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Originally posted by Toad:
I sort of like Oboe's idea.
Let the HTC computer keep track of the number of times a player has been squelched by anyone.
Morons squelch people also, how is this indication of anything?
Don't do anything with the info until the end of the tour.
Then post "Squelch Stats". (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Deja can then use his bot to post a "top ten" list. We could a few categories like "Most Total Squelches", "Most Squelches on CH1", "Most Squelches on Country Channel".
Legal issues would not allow this for to many reasons to list. Besides, it seems you want to target the people targeting people. Pot or kettle? Just play the game, it's not a joint venture, you have NO SAY IN SETTING TERMS OF SERVICE. Accept them, abide by them, or leave.
Trust that those NOT abiding by the terms of use ARE dealt with. You just don't get feedback because you are NO ONE.
It wouldn't identify who did the squelching, just who the entire community thinks deserves squelching most often.
Let me let you dweebs in on a secret, this is a business NOT a community. Stop the buzz words and think about it. Take your pressure tactics to another sandbox if you don't like the atmosphere of the GAME.
You misfits are not a community, so stop trying to make this SMALL gathering of GAME players into some sort of sad substitute for the friends you don't have and the clubs you don't belong to.
You meet none of the criteria of a community and display none of the fellowship.
Maybe this would serve as the necessary "peer pressure".
Necessary for you to feel like you are an important voice in the mob revolt? Peer pressure??? You are not my peer bright eyes, you are the lowest life form known to man... the internet dweeb.Shut up and play the game, that's all your dime buys you rights to.
Leave the business running to the business men.
HTC, Lock this thread and ALL OTHERS with skirt wearing know it all cry babies using moronic buzz words, pressure tacts, and witch hunts.
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One less whiney self important dweeb who thinks the arena is cheers and everyone should yell NUTTZ! when he come in means LESS THEN NOTHING. Now kindly PISS OFF and stop looking for support. You made your "I quit" grandstand, so get lost!
WW
Master of tough love
Originally posted by NUTTZ:
One less paying customer to HTC is no big deal, so i guess this argument is mute.
NUTTZ
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Now this post really made me laugh.
NUTTZ
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Originally posted by wite wai:
You are not my peer bright eyes,
Yeah, I know. I play and post under the same handle.
Big difference right there. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
<Hey, your slip is showing!>
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Originally posted by SOB:
Actually, if you post your opinion, generally agreed with or not, like a squeaky & spoiled little 12 year old who hasn't taken his riddlin lately, you are likely to get flamed. If you post it like a rational adult who has a concern about something, you're likely to start a decent discussion. Most of your posts seemed to fall into the former category, hence you got out of a thread what you put into it. There are a few people who would flame you regardless, but you'll find people like this anywhere.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by wite wai:
You are not my peer bright eyes, you are the lowest life form known to man... the internet dweeb.Shut up and play the game, that's all your dime buys you rights to.
Leave the business running to the business men.
NICE !
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Well NUTTZ, my eyes are somewhat opened to your point. I don't post that often in game NG/BB much anymore because the tone is somewhat hostile. Remember where you are, you are in an arcade. However, this is not the only BB attended by virilent trolls and it is only expected the same attitudes found here will be found sim'n online. However, some of the people are only attempting to entertain you with a persona. Toad had give his up, because it is so difficult to express in one line of print. What happened to you online is unfortunate, but it is certainly no where near the abuse some of us give and take.
I don't blame under 18's for being young but I certainly don't enjoy their banter and I resent having to temper my free time just to accomodate bad parenting by letting them play this game which I thought was for adult simulated violence and interaction.
Your terrains are rather good, however, one of the renderings did demonstrate the repeating of the pattern to strongly and needs some attention.
Your leaving this arena is up to you. Remember, in life you will make only a few friends and you have more than one here. However, this is an arcade and you will be treated with no respect most of the time, worse yet if you act in the same way you will get it worse and eventually it will effect your day to day life. If you leave now you are protecting yourself from more of the same so it's up to you.
RASTER...last post for this tour. If you can't free speech then at least put some feed in it's pen.
[This message has been edited by RASTER (edited 04-17-2001).]
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Wouldn't it be nice to tie all but the O-club and H2H forumns to the paying subscribers account system?? No formal paying account? then all they would get would be read only access.
This way new folks or non subscibers could still see what was happening on the AH boards. But the new, two week trial players could only read, not write but more importantly NO more trolls. Period.
-- Squidzilla
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Originally posted by Squidzilla:
Wouldn't it be nice to tie all but the O-club and H2H forumns to the paying subscribers account system??
Eeeeek, no way! That's a terrible idea for several reasons. First, it excludes non-subscribers from asking legitimate questions in relevant forums, the answers to which might incline them to subscribe. Second, it exacerbates the appearance of an aloof, difficult community; if players find it hard to become active members of this community now, imagine how much harder it would be with these rules implemented.
This proposition sounds like throwing out the baby with the bathwater to me.
-- Todd/DMF
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Originally posted by Raster:
Your terrains are rather good, however, one of the renderings did demonstrate the repeating of the pattern to strongly and needs some attention.
Lol, it's pretty tough to make a non-repeating terrain when you only have 6 base tiles to work with. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
It seems what this community needs is sensitivity awareness courses. We need to get more in touch with the needs of other players and learn how to make things better for everyone.
I propose several on-line sessions with Stuart. Just starting with some self-affirmation would be a great step in the right direction. Then we could move on to why it is bad to dog a musicle genre because it might hurt people's feelings.
Nuttz,
You've been ready to go for a few months. I'm sorry for that. I wish you'd stay. I also wish you didn't take the time to finger someone as the root cause of your departure. I know its not the case.
Your actions are no better than anyone you cite as reasons for you leaving. The actions of people that join this thread condemning the community for being so condemning need to seriously rethink their posts too.
Basically, your work here will be missed. It was an excellent contribution. Most wish it would continue and that you'd stay. I simply wish you'd make up your mind quietly.
AKDejaVu
Musical...handsomehunk...
I've known Nuttz for a long time and he's always been very quiet and rarely complained about anything...I'd imagine that if he's complaining about someones actions in the arena...then most likely it was something that deserved attention.
He's given more to the AW community than you could ever imagine and from what I understand he's given plenty here as well. Just curious Dejapoo...what exactly have you given to this community aside from your smack talking and utter stupidity?
Uh oh...am I starting a flamewar with the Arabian Knights? I better run and hide now...
Blah...I'm sick of your holier than thou attitude on this board you prebuscent pimple pocked mouth. Heed your own advice dweeb...if you don't like how he says goodbye...keep your fuggin trap shut instead of injecting your personal opinions on the subject.
See how that works? I didn't think so.
[This message has been edited by Brat (edited 04-17-2001).]
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>Musical...handsomehunk...
>on this board you prebuscent pimple pocked mouth.
Prepubescent...handsomehunk.. .
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Wab
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Brat,
I'll say the same thing to you:
Your actions are no better than anyone you cite as reasons for you leaving. The actions of people that join this thread condemning the community for being so condemning need to seriously rethink their posts too.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by Brat:
Just curious Dejapoo...what exactly have you given to this community aside from your smack talking and utter stupidity?
His extensive work with all of the stats comes to mind. Is that enough for ya? While we're on the subject of curiosity, are you actually 12 years old, or do you just post like it? Dejapoo???
SOB
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Originally posted by Brat:
Musical...handsomehunk...
I've known Nuttz for a long time and he's always been very quiet and rarely complained about anything...I'd imagine that if he's complaining about someones actions in the arena...then most likely it was something that deserved attention.
He's given more to the AW community than you could ever imagine and from what I understand he's given plenty here as well. Just curious Dejapoo...what exactly have you given to this community aside from your smack talking and utter stupidity?
Uh oh...am I starting a flamewar with the Arabian Knights? I better run and hide now...
Blah...I'm sick of your holier than thou attitude on this board you prebuscent pimple pocked mouth. Heed your own advice dweeb...if you don't like how he says goodbye...keep your fuggin trap shut instead of injecting your personal opinions on the subject.
See how that works? I didn't think so.
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First off... do you even play AH?
Secondly, are you one of those cheapo 9.95$ accounts?
Thirdly, if either of the above... Your opinion matters about as much as a pile of dogshit in the morning.
-SW
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AKdejav...I just read yer post on the O-club, you friggen pimple faced trolling salamander. You think I am gona invest into this community where yer type of fuggen watermelon scratchs yer balls on every post BB. FUG U and FUG OFF HTC. Bust yer girly bellybutton holes on a joy...JERKS!
RASTER diddly ya bastards.
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Originally posted by RASTER:
AKdejav...I just read yer post on the O-club, you friggen pimple faced trolling salamander. You think I am gona invest into this community where yer type of fuggen watermelon scratchs yer balls on every post BB. FUG U and FUG OFF HTC. Bust yer girly bellybutton holes on a joy...JERKS!
RASTER diddly ya bastards.
Nice post Raster, Cya !
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Fyi Brat is a shades account for westy. He uses that name to fly in h2h and harrass guys on the bbs. The above confrontation is a good example.
What he says about nuttz is true its sad hes leaving. I hope its just pay. Why well his maps the make htc's look well pretty boreing.
I hope your just leaving pay nuttz. Your too big a part of the h2h too lose (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
EYE
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Originally posted by Beurling:
Fyi Brat is a shades account for westy. He uses that name to fly in h2h and harrass guys on the bbs. The above confrontation is a good example.
EYE
Eh...wrong person pencilneck. Westy and I are not the same person, and I've used the moniker of Brat in online gaming far longer than you would ever imagine. I know Westy very well as a matter of fact and he most likely chose the shades (if he did in fact) of Brat because of my well known "attitude" on BBS boards.
Arabian Kaweeeens...pile on boys. I figured if I could stack enough of you up here, maybe it'll give the rest of the board a break from your over bloated egotistical garbage that you spew across half the threads here.
I personally feel that "Dejapoo" is a very fitting name...cuz I'll be damned if I ain't heard all these toejamty flames before.
SW...as of now you are correct. I do not have an AH account. If Pacificbell can ever pull their thumbs out of their collective tulips and finish regrading my DSL line then your entire squad will have the opportunity to stand in line and take turns shooting me down for about 3 months. After that time you'll find yourself and the rest of your peers frequently crying on channel 1 and making lame remarks like "you faceshooter...you hacker...I wasn't ready...you warped...waaaa waaaa waaaaa."
I will be paying the full price of admission as I hear that the paranoid rumors started by individuals such as you over tiered pricing are untrue, and I surely wouldn't want to give someone such as yourself ANYTHING to whine about.
A pile of dogshit should matter to you plenty in the morning...cuz boy oh boy...you just stepped in it.
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Originally posted by Brat:
A pile of dogshit should matter to you plenty in the morning...cuz boy oh boy...you just stepped in it.
I'm shaking in my galoshes... Let me know when you get here. I'll be sure to have my film rolling when you unload your drivel on channel 1 as you spin through the sky in flames.
Don't worry Brat, you're going to be my squeak for longer than 3 months.
-SW
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Originally posted by AKSeaWulfe:
I'm shaking in my galoshes... Let me know when you get here. I'll be sure to have my film rolling when you unload your drivel on channel 1 as you spin through the sky in flames.
Don't worry Brat, you're going to be my squeak for longer than 3 months.
-SW
Sorry, I don't swing that way cupcake, and if your flying is as bad as your "flaming" I don't think I have much to worry about.
You'd better call in your boys...this could start getting ugly without help.
<whirrrrrrr...plop>
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(http://Ripsnort60.tripod.com/nukemini.jpg)
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Yes, thanks for pointing out that my flaming is no good. I tend to not need to do it, I let my guns speak for myself. But since I can't give you a Mauser lecture in the MA, I will have to piss you off out here until you come online and find out first hand you screwed the pooch when you let your fingers run.
Talk it up all you want, you're mine in the MA.
-SW
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Originally posted by AKSeaWulfe:
Yes, thanks for pointing out that my flaming is no good. I tend to not need to do it, I let my guns speak for myself. But since I can't give you a Mauser lecture in the MA, I will have to piss you off out here until you come online and find out first hand you screwed the pooch when you let your fingers run.
Talk it up all you want, you're mine in the MA.
-SW
Yeah...leave it to the AK's to hunt a newbie down for 3 months and brag about it.
BAH HA HA!!!
You couldn't piss me off if you tried princess. Now please step aside until I can find someone in your squad that can steer clear of the Topgun references.
Screwed the pooch...rofl...what a dork!
Hey Maverick...hit the brakes...he'll fly right by!!!
Heh...
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Originally posted by Brat:
Yeah...leave it to the AK's to hunt a newbie down for 3 months and brag about it.
Who's bragging? If you could keep your opinionated roadkill off this BBS, which does not concern you because YOU DO NOT PLAY THIS GAME, then you would not make yourself such a target if you ever get an account.
I won't brag one bit each time I blow your bellybutton out of the sky, I'll grin and move on. Then come the 3 months when you think you've learned the game and can beat me, I'm going to come along and learn you some respect.
-SW
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Originally posted by AKSeaWulfe:
Who's bragging? If you could keep your opinionated roadkill off this BBS,
I'm sorry...were you talking to me or your squad members that keep spewing their "opinionated roadkill on this BBS?"
I haven't really made any opinions in this thread other than pointing out how several members of your squad like to dogpile on anyone who uses this BBS to vent their frustrations in the game. You guys think you're such bullies here, but to me you're nothing more than a little entertainment to help pass the day.
It seems I've seen this happen on several threads...someone makes a complaint and half the AK squad interjects with some halfass wanna be AOL chatroom "your momma" putdowns as you all break your arms patting each other on the back exclaiming "wE r GuD aT ThU flITe SimZ!!!"
Hilarious thing about this is when I do finally start playing AH (which may be as soon as this evening) I'm in a win/win situation. You kill me and it's chalked up to "he's a newbie". If I kill anyone in your squad...you're gonna look rather foolish...don't ya think?
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SW,
Now you should know better than to "wrestle with pigs in the mud". You only get dirty and the pig enjoys it.
Of course, I have to admit having made a exception to this rule last weekend. Brat's mother and sisters were in town. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Soooooooooooooowhi! Oink oink oink...
Wab
[This message has been edited by AKWabbit (edited 04-18-2001).]
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Interesting... lots of text nothing worth much value.
Hey! You got that account yet?
-SW
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Oh...BTW.
Personally, I wish Nuttz wasn't leaving. He was getting to be a little high maintainence, but he did make good maps. I'd like to see one of the better ones in the MA.
Oh well. Its his 30 bucks. Or 24, or 19.95 or 9.95 which ever. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Wab
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Originally posted by AKWabbit:
Oh...BTW.
Personally, I wish Nuttz wasn't leaving. He was getting to be a little high maintainence, but he did make good maps. I'd like to see one of the better ones in the MA.
Oh well. Its his 30 bucks. Or 24, or 19.95 or 9.95 which ever. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Wab
Ahhh...here they come now.
<points upwards>
Look...black helicopters!!!
Actually HiTech has asked me to pay $60 a month for my account in anticipation of all the Kleenex being supplied to a certain squad a crybabies when they all run to staff members screaming "make the big bad Brat stop!!!"
See ya up...cupcake!
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If you do a search on the names Westy Brat and jihad you will see a patern. If you search under the name westy around tour 1 to 3 you will see he says he uses the name brat.
What i said is 100% correct. Those who post are simply being fooled by a shell game.
You will see the all post for each other whenever there is a arguement. Not once in a while every time.
EYE
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Originally posted by Beurling:
If you do a search on the names Westy Brat and jihad you will see a patern. If you search under the name westy around tour 1 to 3 you will see he says he uses the name brat.
What i said is 100% correct. Those who post are simply being fooled by a shell game.
You will see the all post for each other whenever there is a arguement. Not once in a while every time.
EYE
Wanna bet? The reason I post close to Westy in an arguement is because he cross posts some of the drivel from this board into another NG and I just can't help but come back here and knock some heads. You are a perfect example. You believe in UFO's by any chance? Were you abducted by aliens as a puppy? Are you an idiot...or do you just play one on the internet?
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<looks up>
Once again, another happily satisfied individual.
<shakes head and thinks… Life’s to short, munch on a valium or something>
Zippatuh
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All outta Valium...only Xanax left
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Originally posted by Beurling:
If you do a search on the names Westy Brat and jihad you will see a patern. If you search under the name westy around tour 1 to 3 you will see he says he uses the name brat.
What i said is 100% correct. Those who post are simply being fooled by a shell game.
EYE
roadkill. Westy & Brat are two different persons. Known them for years.
And while yer at it, you might wanna check under you bed. You never know...
(did that curtain just move ?)
Immel
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Originally posted by Immel:
roadkill. Westy & Brat are two different persons. Known them for years.
And while yer at it, you might wanna check under you bed. You never know...
(did that curtain just move ?)
Immel
Yeah...Immel is actually Bill Gates in shades. He's come for your license fee...you better hide!!!
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What a pathetic thread (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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Originally posted by Baddawg:
What a pathetic thread (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
And you just felt the urge to add to it's patheticness...
(I know that's not a word)
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Originally posted by Brat:
And you just felt the urge to add to it's patheticness...
(I know that's not a word)
isnt it "patheticality"? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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&& I am the walrus....
.. I am the eggman...
... goo goo kuhtchoo! &&
I've heard from <whispers> very reliable sources <wink wink nudge nudge> that there are actually only FOUR people making all of the posts on this board.
(actually? Jihad is Hristo)