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Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Ripsnort on January 16, 2002, 10:22:35 AM
Your selections are:

A) He will be sentenced to death

B) He will pay a stiff penalty, jail time exceeding 10 years

C) He will be sentenced 10 years or more, but be out in 3 years with good behavior and go on to advise a hollywood producer on a movie set based on the book he writes.

D) He'll get a slap on the hand.

E) Other
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: GRUNHERZ on January 16, 2002, 10:24:20 AM
He will be killed in prison by the other inmates.
 
If he ever gets out of prison alive he will be killed by somebody on the outside.


All good as far as I care........
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Udie at Work on January 16, 2002, 10:46:25 AM
I think somewhere between A and B and/or what Grun said.  He screwed his life to be sure.  Geee look how far an open mind got him :rolleyes:
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: capt. apathy on January 16, 2002, 11:06:02 AM
an open mind is a good thing.  just not so far open that your brains roll out on the floor
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Ripsnort on January 16, 2002, 11:07:49 AM
This is my opinion: The last 40 years has infiltrated our legal system with very liberal judges.  Just take a look at the OJ case for instance.

He'll probably get a slap on the hand, do 5 yrs., write a book, and make millions, claiming he was a victim of mind control.
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Am0n on January 16, 2002, 11:48:39 AM
C, and D

this is america where money talks, if it will help the goverments pockets in ANYWAY they are all for it. (taxes and such)


lol.. "victim of mind control" .. love it Ripsnort, you know it will happen. :rolleyes:
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: fd ski on January 16, 2002, 12:16:22 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
This is my opinion: The last 40 years has infiltrated our legal system with very liberal judges.  Just take a look at the OJ case for instance.


Last i checked, it is jury not a judge who find an accused guilty or innocent. Those bastard liberal juries... made up of ... oh wait.. people life you and me ? Wow !! :D
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Toad on January 16, 2002, 12:21:37 PM
My wish is that, if found guilty, he be imprisoned for as long as possible under the penalties for the actual charges filed.

Then, when he has "done his time" may his US citizenship be revoked and may he be deported to any country that will accept him.
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Apache on January 16, 2002, 12:28:03 PM
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Originally posted by fd ski


Last i checked, it is jury not a judge who find an accused guilty or innocent. Those bastard liberal juries... made up of ... oh wait.. people life you and me ? Wow !! :D


But a judge determines sentence.
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Udie at Work on January 16, 2002, 12:28:25 PM
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Originally posted by fd ski


Last i checked, it is jury not a judge who find an accused guilty or innocent. Those bastard liberal juries... made up of ... oh wait.. people life you and me ? Wow !! :D




 Come on ski you're smarter than that.  

 The judge sets the rules of the court room and runs the trial.  And as such can set the way the jury hears or sees the evidence or what evidence they see or hear.  That may well be a huge factor in this case.

 Can we say Judge Ito? ;)
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Eagler on January 16, 2002, 01:27:06 PM
D

they shave him and give him a haircut

Johnny Cochran will get a jury to believe it was the US military's fault
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: fdiron on January 16, 2002, 01:32:03 PM
Depends on whether he knew he would be fighting against Americans when he joined.  Doing the right thing is not hard to do, its knowing what the right thing is that is hard.
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: easymo on January 16, 2002, 02:07:22 PM
the feds picked a very, conservative part of the country.  With very, conservative judges. He is screwed.   Life without parole.
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Ripsnort on January 16, 2002, 02:14:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by fd ski


Last i checked, it is jury not a judge who find an accused guilty or innocent. Those bastard liberal juries... made up of ... oh wait.. people life you and me ? Wow !! :D


Last I checked, the JUDGE controls the court room, the judge did not.  The attourney's had control of that court room.
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Ripsnort on January 16, 2002, 02:16:29 PM
Reminds me of an old joke:

"Did you hear they found Hitler alive!? The bad news is....they're going to try him in LA..."

:):)
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Mighty1 on January 16, 2002, 02:24:38 PM
Well this may sound funny coming from me but I really don't see why he is in jail.

If he wants to go live and fight in another country...fine let him. Take away his citizenship and ban him from this country.

I mean he didn't come here and try to fight us he went to his new country to fight there. The only thing he didn't do was try to become a Aphgan citizen legally.

How many people come to America and join the military? If it's ok for these people why is it bad for one of our citizens to do it?
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: AKSWulfe on January 16, 2002, 02:27:17 PM
Because they captured him?

I dunno, they should of left him with his terrorist buddies and sent him to cuba.
-SW
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: midnight Target on January 16, 2002, 04:02:04 PM
"This is my opinion: The last 40 years has infiltrated our legal system with very liberal judges. Just take a look at the OJ case for instance."

AAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

The EXECUTIVE Branch appoints all Federal Judges.
Democrats - 20 yrs out of the last 40 (not counting GW)
Republicans - Duh! that would leave 20 (no GW)

And we all know how frakin LIBERAL LBJ was! You guys need a new song.

The OJ case was lost by stupid moronic prosecuters.
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Udie at Work on January 16, 2002, 04:12:10 PM
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
"This is my opinion: The last 40 years has infiltrated our legal system with very liberal judges. Just take a look at the OJ case for instance."

AAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

The EXECUTIVE Branch appoints all Federal Judges.
Democrats - 20 yrs out of the last 40 (not counting GW)
Republicans - Duh! that would leave 20 (no GW)

And we all know how frakin LIBERAL LBJ was! You guys need a new song.

The OJ case was lost by stupid moronic prosecuters.




 Heya buddy :)

 BUT :D  the legilative branch aproves the appointments. Which begs me to ask, how man of Bush's appointees has the Democrat controlled Senate aproved a good quarter into his term?  I know the reps did it to Clinton too, but it doesn't make it right.

 On OJ, yeah the prosecuters did some dumb stuff, but IMNSHO Ito made the thing the circus that it was and ruined any chance of justice actually taking place.


  not bad for a doper eh? :D
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: midnight Target on January 16, 2002, 04:32:41 PM
Dammit Udie...if you had all your brain cells liberals would be running and screaming like a pony driver! :D :D

BTW...Ito wasn't a Federally apointed judge.
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Raubvogel on January 16, 2002, 04:34:13 PM
a 30.06 round only costs about 50 cents....

Treason is punishable by death.
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: midnight Target on January 16, 2002, 04:51:39 PM
Sometimes the clouds open up,
The sun shines down,
And a comment rises slowly to the top of the tee......to be smacked outta the park.

Lance Ito was appointed by...............

George (the Duke) Dukmejian  - Conservative Republican of the highest order. lolololololololololololol
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Udie at Work on January 16, 2002, 05:08:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Raubvogel
a 30.06 round only costs about 50 cents....

Treason is punishable by death.




 Takes 2 witnesses to each act of treason. We don't have them. The constitution clearly lays out what is needed to convict somebody of treason.


Tah Gut,


 Tuche!  I know nothing of the "left coast's" state politics.  Though I thought I heard some talking head on tv the other night saying Ito was up for re-election, so I ASSumed that he was elected to the bench.

 and about my brain cells.  Look I've only got 2 left and they're busy arguing, so leave them alone please :D
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: pimpjoe on January 16, 2002, 06:35:41 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AKSWulfe
Because they captured him?

I dunno, they should of left him with his terrorist buddies and sent him to cuba.
-SW


i agree.

he gave up his rights as a U.S. citizen when he went to Afganistan to be a terrorist. why treat him any different?
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Ripsnort on February 18, 2002, 08:51:10 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
This is my opinion: The last 40 years has infiltrated our legal system with very liberal judges.  Just take a look at the OJ case for instance.

He'll probably get a slap on the hand, do 5 yrs., write a book, and make millions, claiming he was a victim of mind control.


I hate it when I'm right....

http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,651666,00.html
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Sandman on February 18, 2002, 11:17:23 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort


I hate it when I'm right....

http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,651666,00.html


Guilt by association followed by a sentence of death is not what I would call justice.

The prosecution has a weak case. They have from the start. So what you have is outrage that there could be an American with the Taliban followed by frustration that there might not be a thing that the courts can do about it.

I think the facts will come out and that Walker shouldn't be used as a proxy for Bin Laden simply because we have failed to find/kill him.
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Gunthr on February 18, 2002, 02:46:23 PM
Quote
Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Your selections are:

A) He will be sentenced to death

B) He will pay a stiff penalty, jail time exceeding 10 years

C) He will be sentenced 10 years or more, but be out in 3 years with good behavior and go on to advise a hollywood producer on a movie set based on the book he writes.

D) He'll get a slap on the hand.

E) Other


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Answer: E. (other)

He will get a 1.5 million dollar book deal. He will play himself in a Hollywood epic shot on location in Afganistan. He will later be elected to the U.S. Senate as a democrat. :p
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: GRUNHERZ on February 18, 2002, 03:00:56 PM
Sandman you defended TTs outlandish choice of words now you even defend scum like John Walker.....

Why?
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Elfenwolf on February 18, 2002, 03:05:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
"This is my opinion: The last 40 years has infiltrated our legal system with very liberal judges. Just take a look at the OJ case for instance."

AAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

The EXECUTIVE Branch appoints all Federal Judges.
Democrats - 20 yrs out of the last 40 (not counting GW)
Republicans - Duh! that would leave 20 (no GW)

And we all know how frakin LIBERAL LBJ was! You guys need a new song.

The OJ case was lost by stupid moronic prosecuters.


OJ was innocent. He was set up by the LAPD.
Elfenwolf
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Tac on February 18, 2002, 03:40:34 PM
Let me see...

2 witnesses? How about the dozens of people that witnessed his capture WITH other Taliban fighters...

and those who witnessed him say he was with the taliban..

and the letters he sent home justifying terrorist actions against the US (USS COLE) by the Taliban...


Treason is treason.

Shoot the little toejam and be done with it.
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: bigUC on February 18, 2002, 04:04:43 PM
Aaaahhhh...  Americans - the ultimate champions of violent revenge.  Always lovely to read these threads :-)
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: N1kPaz on February 18, 2002, 04:15:46 PM
wow another anti-american post. and on an american games american bbs....how refreshing..


God Bless America !!!!
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: mrfish on February 18, 2002, 04:18:44 PM
C
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: ispar on February 18, 2002, 04:20:23 PM
Quote
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Sandman you defended TTs outlandish choice of words now you even defend scum like John Walker.....

Why?


Sandman did not once defend Walker. Read his post more carefully. I think that what he is saying that the case against him is weak, and there may be little that can be done despite his crimes. Even if Walker is a treasonous bastard, it is not justice to convict him on false, contrived, or weak evidence, and certainly not "evidence" based on a CNN interview.
Title: Careful Grunherz
Post by: midnight Target on February 18, 2002, 05:32:06 PM
There was once a Junior Senator from Wisconsin that thought much like your last post. What he brought about were the darkest days in American freedom. Don't assume guilt by association or by the failure to condemn along with the majority.

Hate is not truth. Johnny Walker may be detestible, but he must be treated with and by the letter of the law or we have lost.

(feeling kinda like Sandman's Wingman :cool:   )
Title: Poll: The fate of Johnny Jihad
Post by: Sandman on February 18, 2002, 06:07:10 PM
Works for me... :cool:

Thanks Ispar... you saw my point as well.