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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: aknimitz on January 23, 2002, 08:12:26 PM
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Ok, I have had this problem since day one with the P38, and this has been the primary reason I have not made this plane my predomint plane of choice. When I am flying the 38, I get little stutters in the flight movement. In flat turns, when firing guns, varying times, but consistent results. Its not terrible, nothing like warping, just like "hiccup" type skips.
I am running a P4 1.8 with 256MB RDRAM and a GF2 Ultra 64MB. I had the same problem with my 1.2AMD Tbird with same video card. Anyone else having problems like these? How did you solev them? This a video card thing you think? I am getting like 70 fps when in the 38, so I wouldnt think so, but what do I know.
Nim
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do you use customized sounds?
have you tried it with the default sounds?
I had a custom 109 sound file caused the same thing.
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Have you formatted that hard disk ever since you installed the new parts?
And are you using custom sounds?
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Yes, I have formatted HD recently (its brand new actually). And yes, I am using custom sounds. I'll check on that, I bet that might be it!
Thanks guys!
Nim
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I noticed the same thing tonight, and this on a rig freshly formatted, AH install, current drivers, etc. No custom sounds, either. I won't P-38 much as a result.
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try emptying your nose art folder, use a different gunsight, use default sounds...?
You mean your 38 is the one doing the movement or the con you're following?
You flying with combat trim on? The 38 Ctrim many times ups and lowers the elev in the middle of turns, making your jstick input be "more" than you wanted to, making you do a little "snap turn" for half a second. Royally messes up aiming. Dont use Ct.
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Hmm...interesting Tac. I do use CT with P38, I'll give her a try without it. Its my plane thats doing the wiggling, not the nme. I think mebbe the custom sounds might be playing intot his as well though.
Nim
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Only Newbies and Sailors use CT.
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Thats odd, cause Im neither a newbie or a sailor :)
Nim
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Wasnt Nimitz a sailor?
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Nimitz was an Admiral yes, but my Nimitz is after the Carrier Class. And besides Animal, I know sometimes you get confused, but Nimitz is not really me. I am Paul. I am not a sailor :)
Nim, er...Paul
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I thought the walrus was Paul ;)
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It's definitely twitching for me, and it is the only plane that does so (that I've found, anyway). It makes fine adjustment for shooting quite difficult.
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Kieren, Do yo use CT? Do you have custom sounds for the P38? YOu might try going to default sounds, this actually seemed to help. Additionally, taking CT off seems to help as well.
Nim
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No custom sounds, no CT, fresh install and patch. Latest drivers in all areas. Optimized settings, Vsync on, etc.
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Not all sailors use CT, ;)
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I use the 38 for jabo all the time, and can't say I've noticed anything unusual about it. I'll pay closer attention next time.
Custom sounds, no CT, VSYNC on.
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I knew the AK's were popsicle's, but CT?
At least HT's time spent to develope CT to demo the game to a Grapevine Kindergarden Class on a field trip to HTC and players 6-12 was useful to someone besides r4massts, so that's cool. :eek:
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Bah!
I fly with CT most of the time. I challenge anyone to tell me that using manual trim offers some kind of advantage in any situation other than at extremely high speeds or in certain aircraft which exhibit odd CT properties (like the 38). If I want to manually trim, I'll use the trim wheels on my joystick. At least those approximate the ease of actual manual trim.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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And "beauty is only skin deep" is something ugly people say to make themselves feel better too. Can't see why you want a computer doing most your flying, it's not like this is a commercial aviation sim.
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Originally posted by Creamo
And "beauty is only skin deep" is something ugly people say to make themselves feel better too. Can't see why you want a computer doing most your flying, it's not like this is a commercial aviation sim.
Is that a whiff of elitism I smell?
What I don't want is a pseudo-realistic interpretation of trim that requires more effort than it should realistically be worth. If I want to bother with it, I'll use the trim wheels on my joystick. Or I'll do what I did before CT... I'll simply adjust my stick or rudder position to offset extra lift without bothering to manually put myself back into trim.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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hi
I use to use CT all the time, but since I have stopped using it to make AH more interesting. Forgive my asseverative but I owned you just as hard before CT as I did with it, cream-h0. CT doesn't make a difference.
So in closing, I find your little statements implying that using CT somehow makes a person uber in AH and thus beyond your non-CT skillz pretty sad.
DMF would own you either way, with or without CT. As well as 99.9% of AH pilots.
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tweak
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Lol, u grannies need to go play bingo :)
"certain aircraft which exhibit odd CT properties (like the 38). '
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I use CT on all planes except 38. I just cant trim elevator, aleiron and rudder at the same time. The 38 only needs to have its elevator trimmed, and thats easy with the hat switch.
All planes get a bonus from using manual trim imo, if you have your elevator trimmed to the top, anytime u pull nose up the plane will actually pull nose up faster. Hell if I know why, maybe because the elevator is on the "up" position the moment u stop giving it an input from the joystick vs. the elevator trimmed to the middle receiving a j-stick command to pull nose up? Dunno, I just know its faster for some reason. You can also point nose down and trim elevator fully up, doing nice corckscrew dives and gaining speed.. do that without trimming but instead pulling the nose up with j-stick, you wont gain much E.
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Originally posted by Tac
"certain aircraft which exhibit odd CT properties (like the 38). '
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I use CT on all planes except 38. I just cant trim elevator, aleiron and rudder at the same time. The 38 only needs to have its elevator trimmed, and thats easy with the hat switch.
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If you fly with CT on in the 38, it'll do what I call "hitting the wake" -- or what Nimitz called stuttering. It's as if it generates lift more quickly than CT can compensate for it, so the nose goes up a bit, then it bounces back down again like hitting a wave if you try to pull a smooth turn. It's one of those cases where CT really hampers the performance of the plane.
All planes get a bonus from using manual trim imo, if you have your elevator trimmed to the top, anytime u pull nose up the plane will actually pull nose up faster. Hell if I know why, maybe because the elevator is on the "up" position the moment u stop giving it an input from the joystick vs. the elevator trimmed to the middle receiving a j-stick command to pull nose up? Dunno, I just know its faster for some reason. You can also point nose down and trim elevator fully up, doing nice corckscrew dives and gaining speed.. do that without trimming but instead pulling the nose up with j-stick, you wont gain much E.
This is what I meant by "pseudo-realism." Try doing any of this using the trim wheel on your joystick and it just won't work despite the fact that your joystick trim wheels function more like real trim than the in-game trim does. The things you're describing, especially the first maneuver, are artifacts of an odd trim implementation.
-- Todd/Leviathn