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Title: This week-ends Doolittle raid:Daddog, ? for you
Post by: Ripsnort on February 02, 2001, 09:39:00 AM
Question: Has anyone successfully got a B26B up off a CV deck?

I've tried all variations of flaps, 25% fuel, bomb load variations, etc.,, all for nata...I suspect that maybe they will have a stronger than normal head wind?
Title: This week-ends Doolittle raid:Daddog, ? for you
Post by: -duma- on February 02, 2001, 12:47:00 PM
I have. I usually throttle up enough to disengage brakes and let myself roll back onto the rearm area, then throttle up to full with brakes engaged and start putting down flaps after 2 seconds.. then I can get her into the air quite easily.
Title: This week-ends Doolittle raid:Daddog, ? for you
Post by: Ripsnort on February 02, 2001, 12:59:00 PM
Thanks, Duma, will try the 'reverse wiggle' prior to powering up!
Title: This week-ends Doolittle raid:Daddog, ? for you
Post by: snafu on February 02, 2001, 03:54:00 PM
Hi Rip,
 No problems here either. Nice tip about the rollback though Duma    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).

It's a lot easier from an external view. My technique is Full flaps, Full (up) elevator trim (Note; Elevator trim only), Full throttle (And Brakes). As she begins to creep release the brakes. It's amazing how much drag the gear seems to give. Getting the gear up as soon as you run out of deck is probably the most important thing I've found.

My success rate is consistantly 9/10 (The tenth one will probably be on mission night)    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

TTFN
snafu



[This message has been edited by snafu (edited 02-02-2001).]
Title: This week-ends Doolittle raid:Daddog, ? for you
Post by: Mark Luper on February 02, 2001, 06:54:00 PM
With 25% fuel and full bomb load of 250's I can take off every time from the default position with one notch of flaps, full throttle and release of brakes.

To take off with 50% fuel and same bomb load I maneuvered the ac around and taxied to the fantail and turned it back around. I did this in external view using the #2 engine and left brake only to help it around. Same take off, one notch flaps, rev up and release brakes. It is touchy off the bow, gotta be gentle, but it will take off and fly.

P.S. I did this with the default settings offline. No change in wind or CV speed.

  (http://home.att.net/~lmluper/P47.jpg)   (http://www.jump.net/~cs3)


[This message has been edited by Mark Luper (edited 02-02-2001).]
Title: This week-ends Doolittle raid:Daddog, ? for you
Post by: daddog on February 02, 2001, 07:05:00 PM
Rip,

I have managed it 3 of 4 times with what Duma and Snafu have discribed and with 50% fuel. Mark also had good suggestions. From what I understand there will be a head wind also.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

I am not sure what Duck will do if you splash and someone was asking about that. It is his event and he is the host so I don't like to tell them how to run it. I think a good suggestion will be for those that do go swimming are given the option to fly a Zeke. Granted most Snapshots are 1 life events, but this has a twist we have not tried yet.

Personally I am going to fly a Zeke, so you might as well splash if I catch ya.
<says daddog trying to sound confident>  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: This week-ends Doolittle raid:Daddog, ? for you
Post by: Swoop on February 03, 2001, 03:22:00 AM
What's this about reversing?  Someone explain that one to me again......

Swoop
Title: This week-ends Doolittle raid:Daddog, ? for you
Post by: PakRat on February 03, 2001, 12:59:00 PM
In the real planes it is possible to "reverse" without props that have reverse pitch. It takes a multi-engine plane and the toe brakes to do.

For example on the B-17... To reverse, all you do is hold the right brake and throttle up #4. This causes the plane to pivot around the right wheel with the right wing moving forward and the left wing (and fuselage) moving backward. After a tad of that, close throttle on #4 and then you then hold the left brake and bring up #1. The plane pivots around the left wheel with the left wing moving forward and the right wing (and fuselage) moving backwards.

Net result after a few of these is the plane waddles backwards. It does require a plane with engines outboard of the wheels though. The further outboard, the more effective the maneuver, less throttle, etc.

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Rape, pillage, then burn...
Title: This week-ends Doolittle raid:Daddog, ? for you
Post by: Duckwing6 on February 03, 2001, 04:55:00 PM
Just use dirrential thrust and brakes and you can turn the B26 around the main wheels  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

(shift 1 or 2 to select engine , then throttle up and use C and V for diff brakes)

besides it wasn't a problem as we had an extra 20 mph headwind... 1 carshed due to framerate issues rather than the difficulty of getting offf the Deck.
Title: This week-ends Doolittle raid:Daddog, ? for you
Post by: Ghosth on February 03, 2001, 06:23:00 PM
Same problem here duck.

3 attempts prior to event, no problem.
Crashed 2 times in a row with framerate at 2.

Finally everyone else was up, and was able to roll no problem with normal framerate & gather the flock.

Great Event BTW!

<S> to all who flew it.