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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Sturm on April 16, 2001, 03:26:00 PM
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What is the fastest speed you have ever attained on a public road 2 wheeled and 4 wheeled?
2 wheeled was my ZX-6R race bike in Arizona heading to Tucson. 172 true, 180+ indicated on speedo. Was awesome 10 bikes screaming passing people like they were standing still, crazy? You bet won't ever do that again.
4 wheeled was in my friends 69 camaro SS in Indiana hit 160, worse thing was watching them put their lap belts on in the front seat and I asked um wheres mine?
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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
"The soup nazi"
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Car - 72 Chevelle SS 396 - interstate 75 in Tampa FL. speed 125
Bike - 83 GL1100 - 140 by spedo - probably about 120 + with spedo error.
Truck - 85 KW 475 cat - 105
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115MPH in a Honda Civic with straight pipe exhaust/cat, intake, 2 1/2" headers and a turbo... of course right when I hit 115 I found a cop sitting behind me and got pulled over...
The other part of the story is even better (when I went into court)... You ever gotten a ticket for going that fast, then talked to the judge and he lowers it to 67MPH in a 50 zone?
-SW
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as this thread as nothing to do with AH, it has been posted in the wrong forum. Try the O'Club next time.
Eagler
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Good point Eagler!
BTW:
CAR: 1969 Firebird... 145 mph
Bike: 1977 KZ 1000.... 140 mph
Truck:1980 Oshkosh T-6 Aircraft Fire Truck... 85 mph (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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170mph in a Porsche 944 Turbo(chipped)
Sable
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Dweebs i did 160 in my beetle
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4 wheels:
208 MPH in a CompEliminator car I ran for 3 years. Of course it was only 4 wheels 60 feet _after_ the start line.
2 wheels, hmm maybe 30 mph? Never ridden anything faster than a Mountain Bike (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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4 wheels: 145 MPH in a Datsun 280Z Yuma to Tucson.
2 wheels 120 mph on my own BMW on a 2 lane very empty in Nevada
2 wheels 125 mph IN Tucson responding to an Officer need help call on the Department Kawasaki KX1000P. VERY scary with traffic and the kaw's tendency to wobble at high speed. Got the shakes afterward when I realized how stupid it was.
180 MPH in my Piper Comanche Sunday evening (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Mav
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Originally posted by AKSeaWulfe:
115MPH in a Honda Civic with straight pipe exhaust/cat, intake, 2 1/2" headers and a turbo... of course right when I hit 115 I found a cop sitting behind me and got pulled over...
The other part of the story is even better (when I went into court)... You ever gotten a ticket for going that fast, then talked to the judge and he lowers it to 67MPH in a 50 zone?
-SW
Wow... the civic that I get around in can, I think, make 90 mph, downhill, with only one person in the car. Maybe. If you're lucky.
Prob'ly more like 60-70 uphill with one person.
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Somewhere around 240 kph for sustained time on the A5 fm just north of Karlsruhe to Baden-Baden. Very nice motorcycle ride.
I still got passed by 3 cars and 2 bikes (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)
Only been about 190 kph in a car - I don't feel as safe in them, go figure.
Cheers
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120 in a Ford Taurus wagon once along I-95
115 in my Dodge Aires (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (does that count as 4 wheels?)
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Strange I never figured AKSeaWulfe as a rice rocket type. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Anyone ever heard a fishing story where the fish gets bigger every time the story gets told? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Whats wrong with rice burners?
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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
"The soup nazi"
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Idiots who drive fast kill others who don't.
Enough said.
<poke>
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Von Santa
Staffelkapitän 9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger, you have lost your battle."
- D. Hrabak, JG 54 "Grünherz"
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160 - 170mph in the vette at the raceway
I dont drive fast in the streets here; for every car there are 3 cops here.
I have never raced a bike before, I have awful balance, I would die very quick.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ:
Strange I never figured AKSeaWulfe as a rice rocket type. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
The car was cheap, and in great condition(and a manual)... so I thought "what the hell".... besides it ain't got none of that shoddy body kit crap that makes the damn car look like a fighter craft from space. ;-)
"If it don't make it go fast, I don't want it" :-)
-SW
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Originally posted by hblair:
Anyone ever heard a fishing story where the fish gets bigger every time the story gets told? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
exactly i call BS on 99% of this i have a fast bike and a hella fast car..i aint been nowhere near these numbers:
85 honda nighthawk 180kph
70 duster hopped nicely; 120 mph
now thats reasonable....
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Bah,
~300 IAS in a Cessna Citation at about 12k. I only flew for about 30 sec but I flew. (I think the pilot turned auto off when i took controls (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
-AKHog
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3-wheel count? If so, mach 2.1, RIO seat F-14 Tomcat, AT2{at the time), USN.
they dont do that in-flight tech testing anymore I think tho, other than the larger craft like teh EP-3 that landed in CHina, had 3 ATs in it.
Of course, they dont allow beards anymore either.....
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Loser I can definately say I have been that fast and on multiple occasions. I used to race out at FIR and vegas in the 600 class. I had my bike street legal by adding a mirror to the left handle grip and adding a good old license plate. Depending on the gearing I used for long road trips I would go 2 up in back running a 600 with 130 RWHP and weighing 370 wet. Get the picture? I will post pics of my bike if needed, and I have some I can get scanned of nice wheelies in the middle of the neighborhood. I started this thread to se who the other throttle junkies are. Some may lie that is fine, mine is all true. I have no one to impress I will never meet the lot of ya, have only met one so far. So then again calling someone like that might be there is a lil jealousy building up? Hmmm aybe hmmm? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) At any rate, was a fun post tak eit how ya want it. fact or fiction nothing beats screaming down the road inches from the pavement.
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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
"The soup nazi"
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2 wheeled was my ZX-6R race bike in Arizona heading to Tucson. 172 true, 180+ indicated on speedo. Was awesome 10 bikes screaming passing people like they were standing still, crazy? You bet won't ever do that again.
Come on. In traffic?? I've been at around 140-150 on a ducati before, but in traffic? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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154mph (indicated) on a YZF-R6, north along the A4 past Schipol Airport in Holland.
Raced a Ferrari 355 up the same road last night, we'd cruise at 110mph, one of us would blast past at about 130mph then pull in again. When we got to Schipol I opened up and blew past him at 150mph and held it......never saw him again (but the mirrors on R6s are crap so that doesnt mean much). (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Driving at hi speeds endangers not only you, but also everyone else at the road.
I still maintain that it's an irresponsible practise.
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Von Santa
Staffelkapitän 9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger, you have lost your battle."
- D. Hrabak, JG 54 "Grünherz"
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Ever been on the highways in Arizona? You will note that traffic is very light, not like I was doing it in downtown pheonix (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif). When you get outside the the main city heading south it opens up into a very nice straight away. BTW Swoop how is that R6? Never ridden one before. I am a die hard Kawi till the day I die hence the license plate MADKAW.
I don't condone speeding in traffic when Johnny is around. When the coast's clear do as you wish just don't hit me when I pass you (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Frequent 120-130 blasts every morning to work.
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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
"The soup nazi"
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115 MPH - Datsun 200SX - Old country road (zero traffic)
145 MPH - Merkur XR4ti - I94 (zero traffic)
100 MPH - Yamaha Phazer (that's a snowmobile) - frozen Lake
Gritz
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I used to sell motorcycles, all brands cept harley, did some road racing and other crazy toejam in my youth as well.
Sturm, I aint buyin' the 172mph on a zx 600...I dont think you'd get there on a zx 1000, depending on year. Stock, 140 with a tail wind, prolly 135 more accurate. Not sayin' ur speedo didnt say that, but it was way off at that speed.
CRASH
Originally posted by Sturm:
What is the fastest speed you have ever attained on a public road 2 wheeled and 4 wheeled?
2 wheeled was my ZX-6R race bike in Arizona heading to Tucson. 172 true, 180+ indicated on speedo. Was awesome 10 bikes screaming passing people like they were standing still, crazy? You bet won't ever do that again.
4 wheeled was in my friends 69 camaro SS in Indiana hit 160, worse thing was watching them put their lap belts on in the front seat and I asked um wheres mine?
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Crash have you ever raced before? I am curious. Do you understand the HP to weight relationship? Gearing? I had multiple sets of sprokets, depending on the track and for street use. I boosted the HP of my stock bike by 36 HP, I invested well over 7,000 into this bike most into the engine. And crash you might have sold bikes or raced them back in the 70's or whenever but the 600 bikes they have out now stock do 152-56. STOCK!!!!
Crash what do you know about rockets? 140 maybe even 135 top speed? You got me laughing here this has just proven to me your data on rice burners is about 15 years old. Hell my old 88 Hurricane "thats a CBR F1 if ya didn't know" would do that easily.
Please stick to topics you know something about and discrediting someone when you know very little about the subject matter at hand makes you the fool. Here is your homework assignment go out and research the top speed's of these bikes. ZX-6R GSXR-750 ZX-9R CBR 929 GSX-R1000 ZX-12
Crash I have included A link for your reading so you can catch up with the times.
http://www.cycleworld.com/xp6/CycleWorld/contents.xml/features/0301_gixxer_gym.xml (http://www.cycleworld.com/xp6/CycleWorld/contents.xml/features/0301_gixxer_gym.xml)
ZX-6R review (http://www.cycleworld.com/xp6/CycleWorld/contents.xml/features/0101_kawzx6r.xml)
This is for the GSX R1000 from this article it states
Covering the same stretch of road aboard the new 1000 registers upward of 188 mph on its digital speedometer, yet I didn't encounter a hint of instability. In all honesty, I'd estimate actual speeds were just shy of 170 mph, considering the grossly exaggerated speedometer error while leaned onto the rear tire's smaller-diameter shoulder
Here is your stock 1000 going 140 lol. Ok I am thru with you for now. Still chuckling at you though Crash. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
"The soup nazi"
[This message has been edited by Sturm (edited 04-17-2001).]
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153 mph (according to radar)on my 1990 FZR600 at Daytona Int'l Speedway (I know, I know....not a public road)
125 mph (according to digitally calibrated speedometer) in my police car on the interstate.....car could go faster but the damn limiter kicks in (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
StuB
Originally posted by Sturm:
What is the fastest speed you have ever attained on a public road 2 wheeled and 4 wheeled?
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Yikes stub you a trooper in VA?
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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
"The soup nazi"
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Crash, I know what you're thinking, over 160 on a 600 is kinda rare.
However, (Sturm'll like this too) I used to run the Gloucestershire UK branch of the Kawasaki Riders Club. There was a bloke who owned a ZX-6R, had more money than sense and time on his hands.....spend thousands on the thing. Took it through the timing lights at Bruntingthorpe at 178mph true. Those kwack engines can be wrung to hell and back, the tollerances are bleedin great. I had a ZXR400L3 that I got 85bhp out of, damn thing did 149.5 at Bruntingthorpe (tried 4 times to get 150....nope).
Sturm, I love kwacks, they just look so damn meaty. Trouble is I wanted a 600 and the ZX is a bit.....um.....toury. Damn good engine tho, I just didnt wanna spend any more on mods and the R6 wipes the floor with a stock ZX-6R. It gets to 120mph in 150 metres less than any other 600. 0-60 in 3.27secs.
The R6 is only comfy if you're in leathers and not much else. Add a T-shirt, 2 sweaters, waterproofs and a heavy bikers coat over the top and the riding position is bloody painfull after 50 miles. The ZX-6R scores big there, real comfy, huge seat, good fairing.
Handling is like comparing Spit with P51. I reckon the extra weight of the ZX helps in fast sweepers......but thats all. The ZX decks out MUCH sooner than the R6.
If I had stupid money to spend I'd pick the ZX and replace almost everything to lighten the bike and get the most out of that beaut of a motor*. As it stands I'll keep my R6 ta.
(http://www.swoop.com/images/logo_small.jpg)
* actually, no I wouldnt, I'd buy an SB7 instead.
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Swoop I hear ya, I am one of those die hard Green and purple lovers. I did everything I could to lighten it up, and around 370 was the lowest I got it with a full tank of gas. I shouldn't have been so rash with Crash, but sometimes jumping the gun is not good. 178 true my god. I would have liked to have known what he did to his bike, I refused to run nitrous for that was instant death waiting in a bottle.
One thing though I did not just waste the money on the bike for the street I did race it every other weekend. It was expensive to keep it on the street. Oh and my race number was 187 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Team mate who was a doctor and our sponsor his number was 666 was very odd to say the least. Rode for SR Axis out of AZ.
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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
"The soup nazi"
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Dude, dont even go there. I left the business in 92 and yes, I've raced at watkins glen and at bridgehamton. As a matter of fact, the first time I ever saw a race course I was racing on it. CBR 600's top speed was in the 130's if I remember correctly, as were all stock 600's of the time, 91 and earlier, and of course if ya spent $7000 on the motor it's gonna be significantly faster, (conveniently left that out though, didnt ya), although I dont know why you'd do that unless you were racing enough to warrent the cost. Very few people I've known did and I knew alot of people in the business. You didnt mention that in your post which is why I specifically used the work "stock". The 135 to 140mph reference was refering to the 600 not the 1000...figure you'd know that.
As for a modern stock 600 doing 150 now, thats great, but it still aint 172 which is why I questioned it. BTW, I spent 5 years in the business and there wasnt too much I didnt know about motorcycles and I've ridden just about every model sold between 87 and 92 made by honda,kawasaki, suzuki, and bmw. In that time I met literally hundreds if not a thousand enthusiasts and you wouldnt believe the toejam I've heard people claim and the misperceptions they held about the hardware and about riding in general...Christ, it was amazing some of it, so naturally when you claimed 172 on a 600 I had to question it, although you'll take note I did it in manner so as not to sound like I was trying to discredit you, which of course is not the same tone in your reply. Why you'd make a clearly exagerrated claim like that and conveniently leave out material facts like "I spent 7 grand on the bike" and direct it towards go fast kinda people and not expect to be questioned about it leads me to believe you were lookin for an opportunity to let everyone know just what a smart motorhead you really are. Congradulations...I'll call cycle world, I'm sure they're always lookin for guys like you.
CRASH OUT
Originally posted by Sturm:
Crash have you ever raced before? I am curious. Do you understand the HP to weight relationship? Gearing? I had multiple sets of sprokets, depending on the track and for street use. I boosted the HP of my stock bike by 36 HP, I invested well over 7,000 into this bike most into the engine. And crash you might have sold bikes or raced them back in the 70's or whenever but the 600 bikes they have out now stock do 152-56. STOCK!!!!
Crash what do you know about rockets? 140 maybe even 135 top speed? You got me laughing here this has just proven to me your data on rice burners is about 15 years old. Hell my old 88 Hurricane "thats a CBR F1 if ya didn't know" would do that easily.
Please stick to topics you know something about and discrediting someone when you know very little about the subject matter at hand makes you the fool. Here is your homework assignment go out and research the top speed's of these bikes. ZX-6R GSXR-750 ZX-9R CBR 929 GSX-R1000 ZX-12
Crash I have included A link for your reading so you can catch up with the times.
http://www.cycleworld.com/xp6/CycleWorld/contents.xml/features/0301_gixxer_gym.xml (http://www.cycleworld.com/xp6/CycleWorld/contents.xml/features/0301_gixxer_gym.xml)
ZX-6R review (http://www.cycleworld.com/xp6/CycleWorld/contents.xml/features/0101_kawzx6r.xml)
This is for the GSX R1000 from this article it states
Covering the same stretch of road aboard the new 1000 registers upward of 188 mph on its digital speedometer, yet I didn't encounter a hint of instability. In all honesty, I'd estimate actual speeds were just shy of 170 mph, considering the grossly exaggerated speedometer error while leaned onto the rear tire's smaller-diameter shoulder
Here is your stock 1000 going 140 lol. Ok I am thru with you for now. Still chuckling at you though Crash. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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One thing will always be true $=horsepower, but if I was gonna make a claim that I went 200mph in my 97 camaro I'd mention that I rebuilt the whole motor so as not to give people the idea that I didnt know what I was talkin' about, but hey, thats just me.
CRASH
Originally posted by Swoop:
Crash, I know what you're thinking, over 160 on a 600 is kinda rare.
However, (Sturm'll like this too) I used to run the Gloucestershire UK branch of the Kawasaki Riders Club. There was a bloke who owned a ZX-6R, had more money than sense and time on his hands.....spend thousands on the thing. Took it through the timing lights at Bruntingthorpe at 178mph true. Those kwack engines can be wrung to hell and back, the tollerances are bleedin great. I had a ZXR400L3 that I got 85bhp out of, damn thing did 149.5 at Bruntingthorpe (tried 4 times to get 150....nope).
Sturm, I love kwacks, they just look so damn meaty. Trouble is I wanted a 600 and the ZX is a bit.....um.....toury. Damn good engine tho, I just didnt wanna spend any more on mods and the R6 wipes the floor with a stock ZX-6R. It gets to 120mph in 150 metres less than any other 600. 0-60 in 3.27secs.
The R6 is only comfy if you're in leathers and not much else. Add a T-shirt, 2 sweaters, waterproofs and a heavy bikers coat over the top and the riding position is bloody painfull after 50 miles. The ZX-6R scores big there, real comfy, huge seat, good fairing.
Handling is like comparing Spit with P51. I reckon the extra weight of the ZX helps in fast sweepers......but thats all. The ZX decks out MUCH sooner than the R6.
If I had stupid money to spend I'd pick the ZX and replace almost everything to lighten the bike and get the most out of that beaut of a motor*. As it stands I'll keep my R6 ta.
(http://www.swoop.com/images/logo_small.jpg)
* actually, no I wouldnt, I'd buy an SB7 instead.
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Originally posted by Sturm:
Yikes stub you a trooper in VA?
No, Sturm, I work for a city and I-95 passes through it. For some reason, most turds try to use the interstate to get away. They forget about the limited (and well known to us) number of exits, and that they can't out run the radio. I still like it when they try though (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Hey Crash,
The stock 1989 Yamaha FZR 600 did 145 mph. My '90 FZR 600 was stripped, piped and jetted. When the CBR F-2's came out they STOMPED the FZR's in acceleration and top speed but the FZR's cornered better. Was alot like turn fighter versus energy fighter situation.....very frustrating (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)
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Crash
As you stated One thing will always be true $=horsepower, but if I was gonna make a claim that I went 200mph in my 97 camaro I'd mention that I rebuilt the whole motor so as not to give people the idea that I didnt know what I was talkin' about, but hey, thats just me.
What I said first line in this thread ZX-6R race bike in Arizona heading to Tucson
Didn't realize I had to go on figured the average person would understand the difference between a race bike and a stock one, until you came along. Plus going into details I certainly did later. 19 posts later. I used to race out at FIR and vegas in the 600 class. I had my bike street legal by adding a mirror to the left handle grip and adding a good old license plate. Depending on the gearing I used for long road trips I would go 2 up in back running a 600 with 130 RWHP and weighing 370 wet.
What part of the weight and HP thing didn't you understand? I mentioned this way before mentioning how much I spent on the bike.
Another good one from ya and of course if ya spent $7000 on the motor it's gonna be significantly faster,"DUH" (conveniently left that out though, didnt ya),"Crash once again didn't think I had to throw out $ figures would be braggging to the 10th degree" although I dont know why you'd do that unless you were racing enough to warrent the cost. Very few people I've known did and I knew alot of people in the business. You didnt mention that in your post which is why I specifically used the work "stock".
Crash you came into this thread the "Wang Wei" wrongway and I assume you might have some knowledge on this subject matter, judging by your commments I have a hard time believeing you know anything but what you can read in cycle world, even that you still claim figures lower. As far as very few not spending that much on their bikes? What rock are you living under? I knew 20 people out in AZ alone that spent more then double what I spent in our group. And BTW this post was never intended on making me look like a smart motorhead LOL, hell the car portion I wasn't even driving it, you crack me up.
from Mr. Crash Congradulations...I'll call cycle world, I'm sure they're always lookin for guys like you.
LOL and I am sure they will listen to ya buddy. Go get em, and don't bother reposting until you have finished your homework assignment.
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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
"The soup nazi"
[This message has been edited by Sturm (edited 04-18-2001).]
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going by gearing and tire size... my 55 Healey is doing 157 at 6500 rpms... it wont pull more than 7000 in 3rd or fourth tho. 67 vette 454 160 at 6600rpms. 102 inch shovelhead... no tach guess at about 140. 69z28 150 at 7200rpm. couple of friends are in the 200mph club at bonnie and my buddy owns an a fuel dragster.
I have allways liked acceleration more than top speed tho and am not interested in modern stuff or furriner stuff. like the sound and punch of big inch "antiques".
not sure but I believe that anything around 170 would set a 600cc record at bonnie tho.
lazs
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You don't need a fast bike to have fun anyway...
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What are the 600 drag bikes doing their quarter mile runs in? I am not sure I don't follow them but I know it is ludicrous time and speeds. Swoop posted a guy that did 178 in his ZX-6R and that was at Bruntingthorpe. Never thought about this though slip streaming with other riders how much speed would this add on? But the guy Swoop posted about was alone I was in a group of 10.
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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
"The soup nazi"
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Drag bikes are kickin through the 1/4 mile in waaaay sub 10 secs. 7 sec 1/4 mile would not be unusual.....but you cant use that kinda kick on the streets.
Not many production bikes get sub 10 secs on the 1/4.......R6s get 11.16secs, Porche 911 gets 13.7secs......scupcake. Must be all them extra wheels slowing em down.
Um......reason I know all this toejam is cos I wrote a bike racing game a while back (with all kindsa engine mods available) and input the test data for just about every bike from AR50s upwards......kinda makes meaningless figures stick in yr mind.
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What about the knuckleheads running Nitrous on the street? Had a guy die last summer on a 900RR hit the nitrous rear ended a car doing 120+. Darwin lives in some thats is for sure.
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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
"The soup nazi"
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AHhhh... you bunch of wienies! I got a toyota 4 X 4 that'll do 90! Bring it on! I'll..I''llll... I'll let you guys run interference on them blue light guys, hehe. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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just to add some perspective...
Class APS-PF: Posted 156.677MPH to displace the old 124.017MPH record
Class MPS-PG: Posted 157.284MPH to displace the old 154.432MPH record
Class APS-PG: Posted 156.674MPH to displace the old 155.361MPH record
Class MPS-PF: Posted 158.533MPH to displace the old 139.968MPH record
These are the land speed records for the 1000cc motorcyle class. They break down like this... the first letter is amount of modification, second two are "partial streamline" - then,"pushrod" then not sure what the last letter is.
I've been told you can add a "couple" of miles per hour for sea level and asphalt vs salt.
650 Cubic Centimeters (Approx. 39.7 Cubic Inches)
CLASS
ENTRY NAME
DRIVER
YEAR
SPEED
A-G
David Dastrup/Twist Off Racing
D. Dastrup
Sep-93
168.488
A-VG
Eric Vaughn
E. Vaughn
Jun-99
132.052
A-PF
Tatro Machine Special
K. Tatro
Nov-95
145.979
A-VF
Eric Vaughn
E. Vaughn
Nov-98
129.123
APS-G
David Dastrup/Twist Off Racing
D. Dastrup
Nov-94
174.249
APS-VG
Eric Vaughn
E. Vaughn
Jul-98
128.747
APS-VF
Tatro Machine Special
K. Tatro
Sep-97
136.041
These land speed records ar for 650cc class at El Mirage dry lakes and some of them are for modified (stretched) frames and "streamlines".
lazs
[This message has been edited by lazs (edited 04-19-2001).]
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215 km/h, in my renault clio 1.6 16v, 110 HP.
I think this is something near 160 miles per hour.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) nice discussion,
FB.
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215? ha! that's 133mph
Come back when you can hit 270kmh.
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non of the non stretched frame or non streamlined 650cc bikes are over about 150mph and most have well over $7,000 in the motors. Perhaps sturmie should show em how it's done. Can't believe he wouldn't want his name in the record books. Taking off the licence plate and rear view mirror should even add a couple mikes per hour.
for those interested... here is how to figure out exactly how fast you are going....
tire height in inches (some tire growth at speed) times RPM (revs) divided by 336 divided by gear ratio. for instance...my car has a 28.6" tire height with a 1/1 rear drive of 3.70 so... at 6800 rpms in final drive (4th) equals a true speed of.... 156.4 mph
lazs
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Lazs funny thing is, do you know what your talking about? A stock 600cc bike will do 152-156 off the show room. Lose the pipe add an after market exhaust depending on whether it is carbon fiber or titanium you can save upwards of 15 pounds add an extra 5-10 HP depending on jetting. Lets see rework the carbs, ejection, spark plugs, headers, tuning of the engine. Well you get the point.
If you want a detailed list of what I did to the bike I will go thru my records and see if I still have the order statements for the parts. Justifying something to you is like trying to teach a 1st grader the ABC's yes its hard but sooner or later they will catch on. Now run along lil boy, recess is almost over and you will have to give up the school puter.
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Um......guys, I dunno what the argument is here. Sturm is correct, modern 600cc sportsbikes all do 155-160mph straight out of the showroom (given running in time). If you're thinking "I cant get my '99 softail over 120" well.....what you're riding is 1960's tractor technology with less wheels. Not saying Harley's are crap, I'd have one......but I'd use my R6 when I wanna get somewhere. Sportsbike.....cruiser. And before anyone asks, no a Bandit/Fazer/Thundercat is not a sportsbike.
The Kawasaki ZX-6R has one of the most tunable engines ever. They're bullet proof, huge great things with the tolerances to get away with most tuning work without taking a drop in reliability. I have no problem believing Sturm cos I know other people that have thrown silly money at a 6R and got back a missile with wheels. Some people would say a ZX-6R is a sports tourer, not a pure sportsbike......but the engine is a bit good to be called a tourer.
As for the speed claim....well again, I have no problem believing a tuned 6R is capable of those speeds which is why I'm not arguing about speedo inaccuracy or how he knows exactly what true mph he was going.
Now call my stupid is ya like but shouldnt this thread be in the O club?
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couple of points... most people don't really know how fast they are going. Speedos are not a good way to tell. My ex highway patrol mustang has a "certified calibrated" speedo and is ded on at 60mph but is 5 mph off at 125. I gave a formula to show how to figure out how fast you are actually going. All it takes is an accurate tach.
point two... those were the actual land speed records for 650CC bikes. those are timed runs with no bull. they are of course the average for two runs. They are also some very modified bikes with stretched frames and partial or full streamlining. The records are what they are. I didn't make em up just to make sturmie look bad (he does fine on his own).
Many people have gone to the salt flats and been REALLY dissapointed in how fast there car really went (look at production records).
sturmie... i have built more hot motors than u have time on line this tour so yeah... list the things YOU did to spend 7 grand on a 600cc motor. I don't think you know a ring end gap from a 3 angle valve job. And while your at it... tell me how you know what "true" (as opposed to indicated)speed was.
Gearing is important... too much and the vehicle won't rpm... too little and it tachs out too early. Yes... I would be very interested to see a list of modifications that dumped 7 grand into a 600cc bike that was still streetable with a production frame. I would be even more interested in seeing a sanctioned speed slip for that bike.
And yes I have built a 102 inch shovelhead but I make no claims for it except that it was one really fun bike that sounded squeakin. The thing about Harleys is... motorcycles are dangerous. if your gonna die on one at least die on one that isn't embarassing to be seen on.
Oh... for all interested... GTech makes a timing device that plugs into your 12 volt source and is $140. it will tell you 0-60 and quarter mile times to within a tenth of a second. I have one and tested it on a bunch of cars and it is (mine at least) as accurate as they claim. It makes a very good anti roadkill meter.
lazs
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And do you people have any accurate historical data to prove this? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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yep.
lazs