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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: weazel on January 31, 2002, 10:20:57 AM
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GW in Gethsemane (http://michaelmoore.com/2002_0129.html) :cool:
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Still searching for ghosts eh? Here's one thats not a ghost:
GLOBAL CROSSING BANKRUPTCY: GOP INSIDERS QUESTION DNC CHAIRMAN MCAULIFFE PROFIT, TURNED $100,000 INTO
$18,000,000
ENRON-stung GOPers are discreetly eyeing the collapse of GLOBAL CROSSING [which on Monday became the 4th
largest bankruptcy in history] and its Chairman Gary Winnick, a top Democrat donor who helped DNC head Terry
McAuliffe turn a $100,000 stock investment -- into $18,000,000!
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McAuliffe arranged for Winnick to play golf with President Clinton in 1999 after his cash windfall. Winnick
then gave a million dollars to help build Clinton's presidential library.
A top White House source noted to the DRUDGE REPORT, with irony, the direct McAuliffe connection with
Winnick and GLOBAL CROSSING.
"McAuliffe is a guy who made millions and millions and millions off this GLOBAL CROSSING stock? And the
company goes bankrupt. And he has the gonads to criticize anyone on ENRON!" blasted the Bush insider who
asked not to be identified.
"What did Winnick get for his money? Let's have congressional hearings! Stockholders should demand it! Will
Mr. Clinton give back the money?"
McAuliffe, in his role as chairman of the Democratic National Committee, has been a vocal opponent of the
ENRON collapse, telling CNN this weekend: "The people out there who are hurt the most are the small people,
and once again the wealthy special interests got to take their money off the table, and that's what we need
to investigate."
"The Bush administration is running fiscal policy the way folks at ENRON ran their company," McAuliffe has
said.
But with shares of GLOBAL CROSSING closing at just 30 cents on Monday, and trading suspended after the
Chapter 11 deal was announced, McAuliffe faded from view.
For McAuliffe, GLOBAL CROSSING turned out to be a bonanza. The stock had soared in the late 90s, when
Winnick once bragged that he was the "richest man in Los Angeles." McAuliffe operated out of an office in
downtown Washington that belonged to Winnick -- to help the mogul "work on deals."
McAuliffe told the NYT TIMES's Jeff Gerth in late '99 that his initial $100,000 investment grew to be worth
about $18 million, and he made millions more trading GLOBAL's stock and options after it went public in '98.
Top GOP insiders were also gloating over GLOBAL CROSSING ties to other ENRON obsessives.
A major fundraising dinner for Senator Tom Daschle was bought and paid for by GLOBAL CROSSING.
Winnick gave thousands of dollars to top ENRON cop Rep. Henry Waxman during the last election, according to
public records.
But as everything blurs, and blurs again in the bankruptcy cycles of the fresh century, and in a twist that
will ensure GOP operatives do not ride GLOBAL CROSSING all the way into shore: Former President George Bush
once made a smart move by accepting stock in a start-up company instead of his usual speaking fee when he
addressed an audience in Tokyo.
Bush agreed to take shares in -- GLOBAL CROSSING LTD. in lieu of an $ 80,000 fee!
McAuliffe's Winnick reportedly suggested that Bush take his fee in stock instead of cash, and Bush agreed.
The Bush stock, at its high, was worth over $ 14 million.
It is not known if he is still holding the scraps.
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Start your own thread, quit trying to hijack this one....typical. ;)
EDIT:
You and your Republican friends are quick to point out that Enron had their claws into the Democrats as well. Yes, they did, and thank you for making the case why we not only need an alternative to the current make-up of the Democratic Party, we need private money removed from our electoral process ASAP.
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ENRON-stung GOPers...
Its related.
Just curious of your opinion, had Enron given 70% donations to the Dems, and 30% to the Repubs, do you think that the witch hunt would still be on? ;)
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Doesnt Michael Moore have something better to do like harrass poor security guards and secretaries in his arrogant self righteus video specials? Or has he grown tired of that now?
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ZZZzzzzzz
did you hear Janet Reno fainted??
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This just in...
The U.S. Presidency is for sale.
Find a sugar-daddy and you too can be the most powerful man in the world.
:rolleyes:
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:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
broken record...............
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Could Be A Long 8 years ;) (http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr020129.asp)
"POLL ANALYSES
January 29, 2002
According to a new CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll, the president’s ratings in each of these areas are exceptionally high, still reflecting the public support he earned following the events of Sept. 11.
84% of Americans approve of the overall job he is doing as president; only 13% disapprove.
83% characterize the Bush presidency to date as a "success."
83% approve of the way he is handling what is arguably the most important issue of the moment, foreign affairs.
64% approve of the way he is handling the economy -- lower than his high point of 72% in October, but still higher than he garnered for the economy prior to Sept. 11, and higher than most presidents, historically, have received for the economy.
73% think the policies Bush is proposing will move the country in the right direction.
Because Folks Just Don't See The Problem (http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr020124.asp)
"POLL ANALYSES
PRINCETON, NJ -- It isn’t likely that the Enron scandal will have a dramatic effect on the views of the American public about business, the relationship between business and politics, or campaign finance reform.
Even before the Enron crisis moved to the nation’s front pages, Americans had relatively low opinions of the honesty and ethics of business executives, did not have a great deal of confidence in business as an institution, and felt that business already has too much influence in society.
Additionally, the public has long thought that George W. Bush was too cozy with big business, suggesting that Americans may not be surprised by the recent focus on the relationship between members of the Bush administration and Enron.
The Enron scandal is also unlikely to cause a groundswell of public pressure for campaign finance reform. Americans support campaign finance reform in principle, but are usually cynical that it will reduce the undue influence of special interests in Washington. Additionally, campaign finance always ranks very low on Americans’ lists of government priorities
The one area in which the Enron scandal may hit its most responsive chord could be in relationship to retirement, and the need for workers’ legal protection when their 401(k)s are heavily tilted towards one company’s stock. Americans have long been concerned about their ability to retire with financial security, and the scandal could heighten these fears."
But it it makes ya feel better to vent, why go right a head. Lots of folks were doing that the LAST 8 years as well. :)
... and guess what.. here we are, the good ole USA, still plodding along one step at a time into the future... and things still slowly change for the better (IMO, of course).
Know what.. I bet the good ole USA will still be here 8 years from now... and 8 years after that... no matter who wins what.
:D
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For good or Ill, the ENRON story will not make a big ripple. It is bad TV, and too complicated for the general public to see as a personal issue. Frankly I wonder what the big deal is regarding Bush. Of course GWB knew the heads of the largest corporations in Texas. He would have been a poor Governor if he hadn't.
I'm sure Clinton knew some people who did bad things too.:D
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Heh, Michael Moore. What a hero to have. (note to weazel, this is mockery again)
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did you hear Janet Reno fainted??
The cover must have fallen off one of the mirrors.
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Originally posted by Fatty
Heh, Michael Moore. What a hero to have. (note to weazel, this is mockery again)
Where did I call him a hero?
But if I needed one he would be a better choice than the shrub, at least he's not pretending to be acting in our best interests.
Mock me all you want, at least I'm not foolish enough to support a liar and crook. ;)
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You've never supported a politician then?
One day when I'm bored with a 6pack I'm going to have to run the search in oclub and put all your conspiracies into one post.
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Originally posted by weazel
Mock me all you want, at least I'm not foolish enough to support a liar and crook. ;)
Jeez... I coulda sworn you liked and supported Bill Clinton! :D
Fatty... better make that a case... a six-pack won't last long enough. ;)
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Nope, I supported his right to privacy in regards to boffing Manlicka Blowinski, not his administration. :D
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Mock me all you want, at least I'm not foolish enough to support a liar and crook.
Nope, I supported his right to privacy in regards to boffing Manlicka Blowinski, not his administration.
Seems pretty much the same to me, given Bill's seeming inability to tell the truth about anything. For all your moral outrage of Bush, I can't recall your dressing the past administration down for the fundraising violations they committed in the '96 campaign (you know, phone calls from federal offices, renting the Lincoln bedroom, hitting a monk temple for cash).
Now I for one would still say I would call for impeachment of Bush if he could be proven guilty of a crime. He hasn't. Until that time I support him. The innuendo and biased reporting you have provided so far reads like a Rush Limbaugh editorial- slanted to the left, of course. I haven't seen anything that sheds light on anything this or past administrations have done as a matter of course. You can pretend this isn't so, but I don't agree with you.
Anyway, what you are focused on here is an idealogical difference in your political viewpoint. You can't or won't see how Bush policies and initiatives might be in the best interests of the country because you have your own ideas. Great. But, instead of saying "he is wrong", you have to lace every reference to Bush with venom, and insult the intelligence of everyone that supports him. I am not deluded, I disagree with you. That is not a crime.