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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SirLoin on February 03, 2002, 03:21:52 PM
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1:Seeing a pilot get lamblasted by his own country for taking up a NIKI...And then watching him actually RTB and get a real plane.(BlueDog...your soul is safe)
2:People breaking off their engagements to give cover to friendly JU88's closing on an enemy base.
3:Can spend hours in there without hearing a complaint about HO's,warping or losing a perk plane.
4:Epic 1 on 1 battles with some of the best pilots in Aces High.
5:Can shoot down a Me109 without worrying about being bounced by a high Spitfire.
6:Me262 for 22 perks.
7:Carrier planes only available on carriers
8:Nobody cares about hit%,K/D or K/T.
9:People switching sides to even out the numbers.
10:Me.(When numbers in MA are over 300)..:)
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LOL, awesome list:)
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Aye - CT is much fun! =) Just starting putting in more than idle time there and the historical plane sets alone are enough to A. change the entire game. B. Keep me interested. Great bunch of guys too. =)
Check it out guys, you might actually like it - besides, then you can always harp on MA chaps. :P
Mazz
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11. eskimo
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Yup Sirlion, great list! Like the Niki thing especially, even though it is perked, it is quite cheap. Have only seen one single in there, he killed my P47 and then he RTB:ed in disgrace ;)
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11. Nobody else
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I like the CT but I can't help myself. [Devil's Advocate Mode]
Seeing a pilot get lamblasted by his own country for taking up a NIKI
I see that in the MA. Tons of N1K2-whiners there.
People breaking off their engagements to give cover to friendly JU88's closing on an enemy base.
I've seen guys cover bombers in the MA.
Can spend hours in there without hearing a complaint about HO's,warping or losing a perk plane.
Yeah because there's nobody in there to complain. If a whiner whines in a vacuum, does it make a sound?
Epic 1 on 1 battles with some of the best pilots in Aces High.
Yeah Leviathn and Drex and Nath and Mitsu, those guys I fought in the MA are crap. :)
Can shoot down a Me109 without worrying about being bounced by a high Spitfire.
OK you got me there.
6:Me262 for 22 perks.
More jet dweebs is a GOOD thing?
Carrier planes only available on carriers
Wha? You can't use land planes from the CV in the MA. You can use CV planes from land bases in the MA, just like in WWII.
8:Nobody cares about hit%,K/D or K/T.
I've seen plenty of CT denziens tooting their own horn talking about K/D.
9:People switching sides to even out the numbers.
Only because the draconian MA side switch time limits aren't used in the CT.
10:Me.(When numbers in MA are over 300)..
Have fun!
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11) the ability to count the number of players online using one hand.
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12) People from the MA trying to get people from the CT to fly there.
I have nothing against the CT, and I think it's a great thing. But for some reason I get the same feeling as I get when a salesperson tries to sell me something. If I need it so bad, why are they trying to sell it so hard? If it's good, they will come. Quit trying so hard.
Gunner
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#13.. Me :D
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"4:Epic 1 on 1 battles with some of the best pilots in Aces High. "
Funny you should mention that. Every time I got in a fight with you, Belicb would cover you.
And every time I got in a fight with him, you covered him.
Strange how Ch1 was full of "nice one on one" when you two were tag teaming.
Not that that's bad, per se; the two of you were making a lovely job of it.
Bit frustrating, none the less.
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Originally posted by Seeker
"4:Epic 1 on 1 battles with some of the best pilots in Aces High. "
Funny you should mention that. Every time I got in a fight with you, Belicb would cover you.
And every time I got in a fight with him, you covered him.
Strange how Ch1 was full of "nice one on one" when you two were tag teaming.
Not that that's bad, per se; the two of you were making a lovely job of it.
Bit frustrating, none the less.
Al;ot of guiys like to wing up in there, they can do it effectively because of the relatively small numbers. Thats just there way of having fun. This of course is not exclusive to the CT:) Its done just as well in the MA, however usually even a good wing pair will get in trouble in the onslaght at a MA size furball
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how can that be ammo? Anyone can jump into a MA furball and rack up the kills.
One thing you won't see in the CT tho is MA people begging for guys to come play with em in the MA. In fact... one thing you won't see in the CT BB is MA people begging for guys to come play with em in the MA..
lazs (the real lazs not the vapid, insipid one with the smiley ballon head)
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Lazsie,
Since laz registered 3 months before you, and there seems to be some confusion between your similar names, and you seem to be so fond of giving everyone cute little nick-names, how about we all call you:
Lazsie
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I had a great time in there Friday night and saturday morning.
to those who come...numbers are picking up!
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11) nekkid women serving free beer.
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Originally posted by SirLoin
1:Seeing a pilot get lamblasted by his own country for taking up a NIKI...And then watching him actually RTB and get a real plane.(BlueDog...your soul is safe)
Whoever "lambasted" that guy for flying his preferred plane, should be ashamed of themselves. The last thing we need is folks criticizing what plane folks choose to fly, especially in the limited CT planeset, but the same applies to the MA. Fly what you want and enjoy it. Don't worry about what other people enjoy flying... just do your thing and have fun. If you get angry because of what other people choose to fly, that's YOUR problem, not theirs.
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Originally posted by Lephturn
Whoever "lambasted" that guy for flying his preferred plane, should be ashamed of themselves. The last thing we need is folks criticizing what plane folks choose to fly, especially in the limited CT planeset, but the same applies to the MA. Fly what you want and enjoy it. Don't worry about what other people enjoy flying... just do your thing and have fun. If you get angry because of what other people choose to fly, that's YOUR problem, not theirs.
Lefty,it was all in good humour.Bluedog made more than one countryman laugh on RTBing...It was one of those "you had to be there" moments...:)
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I totally agree Lephturn.
Of course... let the CT be promoted as elitist and exclussionary. Then let them wonder why more don't show up.
Though... I'm sure all you see in the CT is- 1:1 engagements. Afterall... these are so realistic. Over 99% of all fights in WW2 were of the 1:1 variety. Oh... and I wouldn't advise being the one that jumps in to help a countrymate in trouble. Nothing better than having 2 people yell at you for interfering.
- Can shoot down a 109 without worrying about a high spit coming in on you. Of course, you got the kill on the 109 because he was so worried about a high spit coming in on him.
- Whining so loud people change planes is acceptable and encouraged.
- Everyone can sit around and talk about how much more historical they are by behaving in a completely a-historic manner in a different arena.
- NOBODY complains about dweeb moves. Afterall... when in such an elite environment, people only behave according to previously agreed on socially acceptable rules of engagement.
is required after each and every kill. Failure to do so will result in your immediate critique by everyone else on-line. That is... provided the enemy didn't utilize a move contrairy to those previously agreed on or socially acceptable.
I'm not against the CT. I like the idea and have hopes that it will develop into something more towards what I envision an HA really being like.
What I'm not particularly keen on is the presentation of the CT as anything other than an attempt at historically accurate planesets. Its not more mature... its simply a different arena. The fights aren't better... they are just different... and not becaues of the "quality" of pilots.. but rather the difference in numbers.
You are no better nor worse for flying in the CT. You've just found an arena you are more comfortable with. The thing that irritated me the most about being there was the constant insistance that the "real pilots" flew in the CT.
The CT has:- Fewer players.
- A more historical matchup oriented planeset
- Shorter icon settings
- Different dar settings (is this still the case?)
- A similar sampling of pilots.
If you like smaller fights with historical plane matchups... the CT is the place for you. That's pretty much the only criteria needed to display. The behavior is no more/less historical or adult. The fights themselves are no better/worse. The tactics are no better/worse.
AKDejaVu
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Agreed about the differences in arena Deja, although I must say I give lots of
in both the CT and the MA. It's just that in the CT, it isn't so hecktic, so I often have time to throw a in the CT where I'm already fighting the next guy in the main. Just more impact of fewer numbers.
I would also like to add though, that you don't have to pick simply one arena. I like flying both. Depending on what I feel like doing and what the state of the CT and MA is at the time, I like the option to go do something different. No need to choose just one when you can choose both. :)
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I flew in the CT for about three hours on Saturday night, and had the most fun I've had in a long time. What struck me most was the sense of friendship and good sportsmanship among everyone. I didn't see any negative comments on the radio buffer.
It's living proof that you don't need 300 people in an arena to have fun. We did it with only 50!
to everyone there on Saturday night. The fights were fun, furious and very challenging.
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What's up???Why can't I make a humourous/prodding post for people to give the Combat Theatre a try?It is not an "Elite" theatre at all.Never said it was.But with the lower numbers you have a much better chance of getting in a 1 on 1 without feeling like a cow crossing the Nile River.
For example,I had a lengthy 1 on 1 with Cavalear.We started at 25k,me in a 190a5 him in P51b...It was the first time in almost 3 years I've had a 1 on 1 encounter with him.And that's going back to the 714'th EAW ladder(where he retired with 50-1 record).We always chat it up in MA but never had a single 1 on 1 encounter.Same with others that are hard to find in MA...
It's a great place to practice your wingman skills too with a squad mate and vs a historical planeset...It's unbeatable immersiveness!
I guess it's different strokes for different folks,but CT is the one for me.
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Originally posted by lazs2
how can that be ammo? Anyone can jump into a MA furball and rack up the kills.
lazs (the real lazs not the vapid, insipid one with the smiley ballon head)
lazs,
All I mean by that is that the numbers are low in there so the likelyhood of a wing pair getting overcome by a horde of enemy is much less than in the MA, thats all. Its just a numbers thing. In the MA, you can rack up quite a string of kills though, as long as your SA is in tune and your skills and patience are up to par.
I dont subscribe to the argument that CT pilots are any better than MA pilots, that hogwash. Its just a different enviroment. I like the CT though, I goes along with my "fighter pilot" fantasies:). I enjoy both but I am just a Flight sim junkie.
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The historical match-ups are what does it for me.
eskimo
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It is not an "Elite" theatre at all.Never said it was.
You Said:Seeing a pilot get lamblasted by his own country for taking up a NIKI...
thenEpic 1 on 1 battles with some of the best pilots in Aces High.
You definately implied it.
Really... present all that the CT really has to offer in an objective manner and let people decide for themselves. I mean... "Nobody cares about hit%,K/D or K/T"? Is that why people wanted stats for the CT to be generated? And no need to dig on spits and N1K2s...
... nevermind.
AKDejaVu
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All I can say DejaVu is...Relax..Have a Red Stripe mon!!!..."I ain't no politician,quit reading into my words"..Bob Marley
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"The historical match-ups are what does it for me.
eskimo"
Yes... but no one cares what does it for you my blubber eating little buddy.
oh.. and i tried AH very early on but the laughable pre 1.04 FM made me not sign up till it was fixed. still... the thought of people confusing me with someone who would use smiley faces in a post..... makes me shudder.
lazs (the real lazs and not the baloon headed buffoon of a simular handle)
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What is the point of the CT? The CT was created to cater to the group who wanted to fly historical matchups. Period. That's it.
Well, guess what? About 2-3% of the AH guys are interested in historical matchups and when this was discovered, certain groups started looking for ways to promote the CT.
Guys who worry about what other guys fly are not potential mentats. Guys who worry about "fighting the good fight in a 1 versus 1" should take up pool. It's a nice game. :)
I'm not saying that 1 vs. 1 fights aren't fun. Why heck, why don't you hustle right over to the CT and all 2 of you in there can have all the 1 vs 1s you want! ;)
Let's suppose all of this endless (seemingly) propaganda had its desired effect and most of us moved from the MA to the CT. What would happen?
Well, forget those 1 on 1s. :) Thing of the past! Let's fast forward on the successful CT to 6 months+. The biggest whine on channel 1 will be "HTC, when are you going to bring more new planes out?"
Lol guys, it's a game! Any correlation between Aces High and actual events is purely accidental. OTOH, man, what a game. Endless entertainment ... where else can I watch Fatty deliberately auger while shooting a chute, mathman deliberately auger a me-262 shooting a VH and yet, at the same time, have some incredibly exciting moments in ponies/109s fighting each other at 15k+. Where else can I find 8 high altitude buffs and I'm in a higher pony?
Anyone who sneers at plane choice or arena choice needs a speedy check 6 on attitude. Hitech? How about it? Give us a "attitude check 6" button so we can annoy this group? Maybe the attitude check 6 call should flash the South end of a North bound donkey. :)
curly
curly
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Now this thread has turned into a squeaking session... its unbeliveable how these hings happen. The very ones complaining about "Attitude Check Six's" and the conduct of the CT'ers are the ones sticking up their noses. Sorry, but anyone who advises a fellow flyer against an N1k is far from having an additude problem, he should be given a medal. There is big difference in attitude in the CT yes, people A. Dont shoot chutes. B. Dont complain... EVER. C. Enjoy playing a "game" with likeminded individuals who are interested in having fun. and D. Understand that they are actually going to get shot down every once in awhile and that kill might deserve a
. Sigh... if these threads are going to turn into MA vs. CT I suggest they just stop being posted.
Mazz
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Your a funny SOB lazs.... :D (note how i put big bellybutton smiley face in just to piss you off ;))
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The CT arena is not an elitist environment!!! I totaly resent you saying that it is!!!!!:mad: :mad:
I think the real reason you don't fly there is because we're all better than you or anybody in the MA so you can't fly in there because you'd only get shot down!:rolleyes:
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Great job guys! You've taken what was a friendly thread, into a squeakfest. Cripes, just relax a bit. It doesn't always have to be a about hidden agendas, etc...jerks.
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ROFL... man, I'm crackin up sittin here readin this..
Look, I dunno how the 'elitist' BS got started, but I had fun with it fer a few days.. pretty much the same way I had fun with Hristo's tag of 'opportunist' that he hung on the allied pilots. Big stinky deal.. and so what?
Yah know what I don't miss in the CT? Arrogance.. from anybody. It don't seem to exist... except on rare occasions. Now I suppose that won't last any longer than the low CT numbers..the arrogance will oddly appear just as soon as the CT numbers get up beyond beta numbers in the old AH.
Yah know what i'm liking about the CT?? The smooth frames, the rock solid connects, the lack of warping, the good fights I'm getting from good sticks, the comraderie with both the opposition and the teammates, the clearer sense of mutual support, the lack of whining when the opposition is foiled, the lack of griping and finger pointing when the team objective fails.. kinda like it was way back when in the old MA.
Yah know what else i like?? flying against opposition A/C rather than against every damn plane made in the time frame regardless of country..
And for the first time in over a year I'm actually getting better at flying and acm because my SA is not worked to beyond maximum while the Fe stalls under a 30 con workload in my immediate area... I can finish the fight I started... I've had single engagements that ran as long as 30 minutes.. GOOD fights, with the other guy, sharp as nails; gettin every bit outta his plane, forcing me to fly better than I have in years.
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I'm astounded at the amount of negative diatribe being tossed at the CT guys here on the BBS.. because they found something they liked and they wanna share that good experience with others, yah gotta toejam in their cream of wheat?
Damn.. nothin could be worse than havin some guy come in to the CT with a fargin whiney negative attitude and start gripin and squeakin about how it ain't what he wanted, about how he's gettin gangbanged, (Shane) about how it's not this or that.. do us a favor, exercise yer 'quit' button finger, and get lost!
Had a good stick in there last night... Manx, i guess it was.. we had some good sorties together, but this bonehead shane would not shut up about gettin banged by three spits he kept flyin back into.. So manx asked.. "is it always like this in here?"
If it's the people that make the CT enjoyable.. it's also the people that can make the CT unenjoyable. Right now, it's a blast for the most part.. but if folks like that pinhead Shane start campin out in there, it'll be just another kiddie carnage and whinefest arena like the MA's become... so if yah DON'T like the CT concept, just stay the hell outta there, and let the guys that enjoy the place do their thing in an adult atmosphere. You have a choice.. choose wisely.
Of course, thats just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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Hangtime and Udie,
Read the first post in this thread... again and again.
Are you saying it wasn't intended as a dig on the MA?
Are you saying it in no way critiqued the flyers that fight in the MA?
Please... 1:Seeing a pilot get lamblasted by his own country for taking up a NIKI...And then watching him actually RTB and get a real plane.(BlueDog...your soul is safe)
People choose what plane they fly. Its ok to dog someone for that decision and they should be complimented when they cater to the whining. Yeah.. this isn't behavioral nor is it condemning of the MA :rolleyes:2:People breaking off their engagements to give cover to friendly JU88's closing on an enemy base.
Exactly who/what is this directed at? Does the MA require you to stay engaged or is it a decision? Is that decision thus the flyers being critiqued? Remember... he said this NEVER happens in the MA.3:Can spend hours in there without hearing a complaint about HO's,warping or losing a perk plane.
And you can spend 5 minutes in there and hear all 3.4:Epic 1 on 1 battles with some of the best pilots in Aces High.
This happens everywhere... Oh.. waith.. NOT in the MA... this NEVER happens there. Is that because there aren't any epic 1:1's or is it because the best pilots aren't there.5:Can shoot down a Me109 without worrying about being bounced by a high Spitfire.
Of course... you still have to worry about a higher Bf 109... and that 109 is worrying about your spitfire. So.. you still get the same situation... only the planes have chaged. Either the point is invalid or its a dig on spitfires6:Me262 for 22 perks.
Wow... the first objective statement in the whole thing.7:Carrier planes only available on carriers
Yep.. this is totally realistic. F4u-1Ds and Seafires NEVER launched from land bases... and they are so totally impacting.8:Nobody cares about hit%,K/D or K/T.
Yet they wanted a score page for the CT.9:People switching sides to even out the numbers.
OK.. so side switching is necessary due to low numbers. Especially in an arena where 1:3 is entirely possible.10:Me.(When numbers in MA are over 300)..
One that managed not to dog one arena for the sake of promoting another. And it only took 8 tries to do that twice.
Both of you can try to tell me that so many are being critical of the MA. That is roadkill. Most are simply getting tired of the CT casually critiquing the MA and screaming foul on any rebuttal.
The CT offers a different environment. One that you might like... and guess what... one that you might not like. Everyone can decide for themselves.
Enough of this "touting the virtues of the CT" roadkill. It is no more virtuous... nor are these posts.
AKDejaVu
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Almost without fail every CT advocate says "no elitism exists", then proceeds to prove otherwise and explain why the CT is so much better then the MA...all in the same post.
There are lots of definitions of elitism, but I thought this one was apropos:
Elitism noun Elitism is organizing things for the benefit of a few people with special interests.
Nothing against the CT, I fly there myself once in awhile, but patting yourself on the back and posting how one arena and it's players are a better class of player/person is ridiculous...and divisive.
bowser
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Yea, I miss the attitute of the early Beta, I remember Laughing so hard as My wingless b-17 spirelled out of the sky.
The CT is different but definately not eletist. The numbers are picking up, to each his own. I fly both, had great fights in both.
I will be flying CT mostly for now but enjoy both.
NUTTZ
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Wow Deja, looking for any excuse to be righteously indignant, eh? Well...enjoy, I guess.
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"Elitism noun Elitism is organizing things for the benefit of a few people with special interests. "
Read some of Lazs posts about closer fields for the furrballers, Me163 so he can kill "fluffs" that are "ruining" his fun, how buff pilots "don't deserve to have fun" cause they "haven't earned it"; THERE is elitism at it's finest.
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Hangtime and Udie,
Read the first post in this thread... again and again.
Are you saying it wasn't intended as a dig on the MA?
Are you saying it in no way critiqued the flyers that fight in the MA?
Please... One that managed not to dog one arena for the sake of promoting another. And it only took 8 tries to do that twice.
Both of you can try to tell me that so many are being critical of the MA. That is roadkill. Most are simply getting tired of the CT casually critiquing the MA and screaming foul on any rebuttal.
The CT offers a different environment. One that you might like... and guess what... one that you might not like. Everyone can decide for themselves.
Enough of this "touting the virtues of the CT" roadkill. It is no more virtuous... nor are these posts.
AKDejaVu
:D :D :D hehe dude my post was a joke :D :D :D
For the record I didn't tout nothin. I did notice this same phenomenon back when WB opened up their HA oh so many years ago. We were labled elitist then too for just trying to drum up business, which is how I read the first post...
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We were labled elitist then too for just trying to drum up business, which is how I read the first post...
What amazes me is that 5 years later you still fail to understand why.
Here's a tip: When promoting the CT, try not to point out just how much better the arena and all the people flying in it are than the MA. It goes a long way towards kicking the elitist label.
AKDejaVu
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i'd love to play in the CT but its always
Main Arena: 80
Combat Theatre: 0
Stupid timezone....
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I love the fact that Hangtime no longer tries to shoot my goon down :)
Edit: Dang it Hangtime - Your fling for the Axis - Now I have to hide my goon again :(
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I'm surprized SOB has not picked up on this thread.
I am sure he would whole heartedly jump straight into a N1K.
Then proceed to give you pink pantied hugahunks a weggy that will last for a week!
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"...Read some of Lazs posts..."
A little test for you eddiek. Try writing a whole post without mentioning lazs. Come on...I know you can do it.
obsession: noun, an unhealthy and compulsive preoccupation with something or someone
bowser
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
What amazes me is that 5 years later you still fail to understand why.
Here's a tip: When promoting the CT, try not to point out just how much better the arena and all the people flying in it are than the MA. It goes a long way towards kicking the elitist label.
AKDejaVu
I never said it was better than the MA. It's just a different way to play the game. We need more in there so people pump it up. No need to get bent out of shape man there's like 450 in the arena every night.
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Question....
where did the label 'elitist' in refrence to th CT come from?
who the hell said the CT is exclusionary?
if you wish to describe folks in a negative vindictive manner, folks that have found something they enjoy, something created by the player base on their own time, on their own nickel, in response to the wishes of a not insignificant percentage of that same player base, with the blessings permission and assistance of the owners, just what the hell does that tell us about whats goin thru yer minds? whats the threat? just what the hell the freakin problem here?
are you guys that small minded? the original post in this thread is a jest.. a joke.. a play on words and circumstances intended to get folks to smile, and to share the fun we're having, draw some intrest.. fun that anybody can have, in our new playground.
but, nooo... hey; diffrent monkeys.. baaaad monkeys, must piss on baaaad diffrent monkeys.. must scream and wail, sling toejam and shake the bars..
fediddlein dissapointing, i'll tell yah. really. figured most of these veteran posters and players tossing the turds back and forth in this tread as being a lil more broadminded than that. maybe even (GASP!) show a lil respect for the effort made by not just a few to make it all work.
i'm hoping this is all just some kinda wierd dick measuring contest gone awry, and that the toejam slinging monkeys on both sides take a fediddlein break..
tell yah what.. if yah wanna come play, come, play. if yah wanna just sit here on the bbs and piss and moan and create exclusionary pictures about non existent elitists, well hey, yer dime again. we understand, we got the 'message', thanks for pointing out our doomed to failure experiment is a waste of our time.
please don't be too bent if we continue having fun, despite your dire warnings of immeninet failure.
'elitist'.... 'exclusionary'... chit; what a buncha horsecrap. wake up, grow up, fly yer game, and quit slappin the folks that are trying to get us all a choice. cause thats what ALL this is about... a choice. you can fly a weekly scenario on a historical planeset, or the MA.
choose.
either.
both.
anytime.
whats the big fediddlein deal?
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Elitist for the CT was coined by our most dearest friend Laz(x).
He felt that because we chose to fly here with people that we respected, enjoyed our combat flights and flew with planes that were historically acurrate that we were 'elitist'.
The altogether sad thing...why the hell did Laz(x) post in this forum to begin with??? Once a troll, always a troll.
Anyways....my most enjoyable moments within the past 6 months have been in the CT arena.
Enjoy all.
Drunky
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WTG Hangtime!! :)
BTW,
11. The old beta times atmosphere. :)
And CT folks have it bigger (and know how to use it, too) :p
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WTG Hangtime! ;)
Kinda amazes me why some people even post here when they don't even play the game. Hell, if you don't play, how do you know what any of us are talking about?
You can sit here and post all day, make comments about what is right and wrong, but if you aren't gonna get into the arenas and see for yourself, who really gives a toejam what you think? I think a helluva lot more of the guys that DO play than ones who frequent the boards to point out others faults and tell them how wrong they are WITHOUT experiencing things firsthand.
Kinda reminds me of RAM when he quit the first time ( or was it the 2nd, 3rd, or 50th time?) and still kept telling the community how wrong things were.
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If you want to check differences between CT and MA, you can use this thread, and the ones in CT forum as an example. This one reflects what MA use to be for me as of lately. Lots of Ch1 rants, nonsense talking, bunched pants, and a big deal of animosity.
Of course, fly what you like.
Cheers,
Pepe <----- happy CT camper despite, maybe thanks to (oh no! here it comes the elitist! :D) low numbers.
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Originally posted by Lephturn
Whoever "lambasted" that guy for flying his preferred plane, should be ashamed of themselves.
I should explain...........
I had just had my arse handed to me several times in a row in my (much preferred) 109 by Spitfires and was sulking while I was in the hangar changing fuel load.
An eerie cloud of red spotted evilness descended on me, and I found my cursor being dragged down the list and clicking 'N1K2j', while this voice in my head whispered 'Yesssssssss Bluedog!, come to the Light! feel the warmth of the Rising Sun, bask in our twisty turnyness, and Spit outturnability!!'
Honest, I have no idea what came over me, it's not something I find myself doin a great deal....go ahead, look up my stats, see how many kills and deaths I have in a N1k.
Anyway, about halfway down the runway on my take off roll, I typed on ch2 " I cant believe Im doin this, but I'm uppin a N1k......." ( I still couldnt really believe I was piloting one of the Hated Ones, and the luftweenie in me was struggling to the surface.)
Someone said 'Noooooooooooooo!!!!! it's not to late!! RTB.....come back to the Darkness, you can still save yourself!'...
at wich point I laughed so hard reality kicked in, and I realised I DO hate N1ks, so much, I've never flown the thing except for maybe 10 minutes offline, and no matter how damn good a plane it is in some peoples hands, I was on a one way sortie to not only yet another death by Spit, but the shame of doing it in a N1k.
So, I did the only thing I could, I landed that heap of junk, and strapped on a Ju88.........if I'm gonna die at the hands of a Spit driver, I'll do it wearing black crosses, fighting tooth and nail, not sipping sake and whimpering like a frightened puppy while my UFO burns ;-)
I fully understand, and agree with your reasons for posting lephturn, and dont intend in any way to detract from that, but in this case I'm glad they did it, it woke me up from my mumbling, ranting, cursing tirade of blind 'do anything to kill those bloody Spits' hissy fit, brought me back to Earth with a laugh, and allowed me to enjoy the rest of my evening in the CT.
I'm pretty sure if I had taken the N1k, I WOULD have been hammered by a Spit ( bloody things seem even more dangerous in there ) cracked the toejams with my utter uselessness, and logged off.
Just thought I should explain myself, and set the story straight, no one hassled me, it was all in good fun......ya had to be there I guess :)
Lephturn for carin' about stuff like that, and big to the saviours of my leatherclad virtual soul ;)
.....and to think I thought I could get away with flyin a N1k in the CT, no one would notice.........Doh!!
Blue
Holy Snapping Duckshit Batman!!!!!! I had only read up to Lephturn's first post when I wrote the above...just read the rest...OMG!! Take it easy guys, it was all in good fun, we were just muckin' around.
BTW, my not so friendly comments towards both the Spitfire and N1k are in no way intended to be a whine, both were excellant planes, they should be damn hard to kill in the right hands.....I just dont like 'em is all, they kill me too much :D
Cant believe how much hate gets around this board, chill out guys, we're all here for the same reason.
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Originally posted by Bluedog
I should explain...........
I had just had my arse handed to me several times in a row in my (much preferred) 109 by Spitfires and was sulking while I was in the hangar changing fuel load.
An eerie cloud of red spotted evilness descended on me, and I found my cursor being dragged down the list and clicking 'N1K2j', while this voice in my head whispered 'Yesssssssss Bluedog!, come to the Light! feel the warmth of the Rising Sun, bask in our twisty turnyness, and Spit outturnability!!'
Honest, I have no idea what came over me, it's not something I find myself doin a great deal....go ahead, look up my stats, see how many kills and deaths I have in a N1k.
Anyway, about halfway down the runway on my take off roll, I typed on ch2 " I cant believe Im doin this, but I'm uppin a N1k......." ( I still couldnt really believe I was piloting one of the Hated Ones, and the luftweenie in me was struggling to the surface.)
Someone said 'Noooooooooooooo!!!!! it's not to late!! RTB.....come back to the Darkness, you can still save yourself!'...
at wich point I laughed so hard reality kicked in, and I realised I DO hate N1ks, so much, I've never flown the thing except for maybe 10 minutes offline, and no matter how damn good a plane it is in some peoples hands, I was on a one way sortie to not only yet another death by Spit, but the shame of doing it in a N1k.
So, I did the only thing I could, I landed that heap of junk, and strapped on a Ju88.........if I'm gonna die at the hands of a Spit driver, I'll do it wearing black crosses, fighting tooth and nail, not sipping sake and whimpering like a frightened puppy while my UFO burns ;-)
I fully understand, and agree with your reasons for posting lephturn, and dont intend in any way to detract from that, but in this case I'm glad they did it, it woke me up from my mumbling, ranting, cursing tirade of blind 'do anything to kill those bloody Spits' hissy fit, brought me back to Earth with a laugh, and allowed me to enjoy the rest of my evening in the CT.
I'm pretty sure if I had taken the N1k, I WOULD have been hammered by a Spit ( bloody things seem even more dangerous in there ) cracked the toejams with my utter uselessness, and logged off.
Just thought I should explain myself, and set the story straight, no one hassled me, it was all in good fun......ya had to be there I guess :)
Lephturn for carin' about stuff like that, and big to the saviours of my leatherclad virtual soul ;)
.....and to think I thought I could get away with flyin a N1k in the CT, no one would notice.........Doh!!
Blue
Holy Snapping Duckshit Batman!!!!!! I had only read up to Lephturn's first post when I wrote the above...just read the rest...OMG!! Take it easy guys, it was all in good fun, we were just muckin' around.
BTW, my not so friendly comments towards both the Spitfire and N1k are in no way intended to be a whine, both were excellant planes, they should be damn hard to kill in the right hands.....I just dont like 'em is all, they kill me too much :D
Cant believe how much hate gets around this board, chill out guys, we're all here for the same reason.
Great post Bluedog! Well written.
Your right, the N1K takes a bit of getting used to before it becomes effective.
In the Beta days, it was my main ride. Every now and then I take it back up and wonder how I or anyone could/can get that plane to do anything very well, as I auger into the ground because I ripped my own wings off. :)
eskimo
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Bluedog!
No harm at all in taking the Niki out for a test drive.
I did the same the other day against ole Wilbus after I got tired of him taking me 3 times in a Jug. Switched to Niki, went back and kilt him, then rtb'd in shame (;) ) for stooping to such a low level.
But hell, it all evens out.....not 10 minutes later Wil was up in a Ta152, gunning for me in my D-11 when I switched sides. Hopping in a perkie is not bad, no matter what perk ride it is.
This thread was started as a joke, to make folks laugh and break the tension. Too bad it's taken on such a spiteful tone........
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this is hillarious... Waaa... "we were just making a joke" LOL! try, "just making a joke" on the CT BB! It is Like eight people all discovered at once that someone had pissed in their wheaties.... after they had eaten half a bowl.
deja had a perfect counter to the post. It was factual and fair. In fact.... that's what those guys hate the most about it.
example... eddeeek has quoted me out of context in order to give my words a meaning that they did not originally have. This is.... dishonest and lazy... I say plenty (ythjat is "controversial") and he shouldn't have to lie and sensationalize but.... zelots do that crap for some reason.
Read what deja said and try to pick it apart. you can't because it is true and accurate. Sooo.... you attack the man. I don't get along with deja but you guys are mental pissants compared to him.
you CT guys argue like feminists and/or liberals.... just like in the CT.... you fight like girls.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
deja had a perfect counter to the post. It was factual and fair. In fact.... that's what those guys hate the most about it.
lazs
Not in regards to me, go back and read the posts. Chu idiot!
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Thanks Hangtime and others for seeing the intended humour/prod in the original post...To the others who think I'm an CT protagonist/elitist,I appologize.I am not and didn't mean to imply such.
And Bluedog,your post ranks as one of the funniest I've ever read!Thanx for setting the record straight and making me laugh out loud.Guys like you are why I fly CT more and more.:D
Can we end this bickering now?:(
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I don't know where all the claims of "elitism" came from, but as a newbie I had a great time in CT. I have to admit, I did go there for the wrong reasons initially, but I came out with a great respect for the potential of this arena.
It has it's problems. The players in CT have discouraged ex AW RR dweebs like myself from going in there from the get go. Yet a lot of the players inhabiting the game are exactly like myself, new arrivals looking for a game to fit into. AH now is a difficult place to learn how to play AH in it's current state, and HTC is a little slow in addressing population "problems" in the Main Arena. I feel bad for new players coming into the game and fighting off hoards of experienced players all while trying to learn to recover from stalls and spins. I'd like to see more "new" players being welcomed into the theatre, to participate in promoting it as a fun place to be. The majority of old AW players are a good group of guys, who are just here to learn.
There really is no justification for both CT and MA guys comments about differences of "personalities" being more suited for one arena over another. I'm a furballer to the n'th degree in the MA. But when I enter CT I'm able to adjust to attempt to fly smarter. I'm not sure if it takes more SA or skill to fly in one over the other, all I know is I'm the same person in both, and contain the same amount of skill and SA. I probably have very little of either, maybe it's just easier to keep track of :)
I'm not sure if the garbage I just typed makes sense whatsoever. I suppose the bottom line is, that I'm far from an "elitist" in Aces High, yet I was welcomed there. I had fun even though I'm one of the AW dweebs that everyone so quickly reminds the arena's of, yet flew well and learned a lot from my AH Veteran counterparts. This arena has potential for everyone.
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Originally posted by lazs2
you CT guys argue like feminists and/or liberals.... just like in the CT.... you fight like girls.
Now you've done it.
If I ever catch you in the CT.....
....I'll scratch your eyes out.
- oldman
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oldman.
lazs (who has no need to blame lazs for all his problems)
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I think you'll fit in where ever you end up Manxer....AW BEEF....:)
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Did AKdejavu´s application for the CT CM-team get decliened or something??? Geez this guy really hates those who fly in the CT...
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Geez this guy really hates those who fly in the CT...
I don't hate anyone here for flying anywhere.
I'm just not a big fan of someone promoting the CT while stomping on the MA. The fact that this is so hard to get across is a constant source of wonderment.
AKDejaVu
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after to reading this thread akdejavue is his hypocritical self by claiming "its just agame" then gettin his panties bunched because someone dared "insult" the main.
the further on a read it became more clear..
laz its all your fault..........:rolleyes:
I've flown in the ct since day one. Theres nothing particularly "special" about it.
Like I have said previously and what hang has stated in this thread the ct just like the main is what the folks that fly there make it. Somedays are better then others and its great be able to chose which one best fits my mood for the day.
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after to reading this thread akdejavue is his hypocritical self by claiming "its just agame"
I said that in this thread? I don't know why I would.. its irrelevant.
then gettin his panties bunched because someone dared "insult" the main.
Ah... yes... let's make the MA out to be a nameless/faceless entity. Afterall.. its very possible to insult the MA without actually insulting the participants.
Another tip for the incredibly obtuse:
You say: "There are too many N1K2s in the MA"
You actually mean: "There are too many people flying N1K2s in the MA"
You say: "All I see are HOs in the MA"
You actually mean: "Everyone in the MA only HOs"
You see.. behind every aircraft and dweeby action is a pilot. Everything you "hate" about the MA is not faceless nor is it nameless... no matter how much you pretend it is.
AKDejaVu
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Ah... yes... let's make the MA out to be a nameless/faceless entity. Afterall.. its very possible to insult the MA without actually insulting the participants.
Another tip for the incredibly obtuse:
You say: "There are too many N1K2s in the MA"
You actually mean: "There are too many people flying N1K2s in the MA"
You say: "All I see are HOs in the MA"
You actually mean: "Everyone in the MA only HOs"
You see.. behind every aircraft and dweeby action is a pilot. Everything you "hate" about the MA is not faceless nor is it nameless... no matter how much you pretend it is.
I know your generalizing here but to be clear I fly both and enjoy umm both depending on what I feel like. And my entire 2 years here I have never made a post about any plane type any person flies. I have however defended the perk system.
However I am not offended by what what ever names folks come up for the main. While I agree the ct is nothing better or worse then the main and I have said so from the begginning there will always be "the ct is better then the main" just like "runstang" "spitdweeb" "runninety" etc......
As much as I try to understand your indignation it just slips by
:rolleyes:
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You say: "Another tip for the incredibly obtuse:"
You actually mean: "Another tip for the incredibly obtuse, meaning me and only me"
Wow, it's fun to but words into other peoples mouths!
:D
You put forth these ideas as if they were fact, or truth. This topic is subjective And they are not fact or truth, they are merely your opinion. One opinion among thousands.
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Manx you bastage - you better not show your face in the CT - no HOs in there and thats all I do to you! God forbid you end up behind me! :P
Mazz/Mike
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