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Title: Me109 Ammo Weight
Post by: SirLoin on February 05, 2002, 02:39:58 AM

Is there a difference in weight between a fully loaded 30mm and the 20mm 109?(no pods).

Title: Me109 Ammo Weight
Post by: butch2k on February 05, 2002, 06:25:37 AM

According to an official document, the MK 108 weighted an hefty 58kg empty, and each round weighted about 0.47kg and ammo links around 6.8kg for 60 rds so the total weight was 93Kg.
The MG 151/20 weighted 42Kg, ammo 0.205kg each and links weighted 2.6kg so a total weight for 150 rds of : 75.35Kg
So weight difference was about 18Kg.

Title: Me109 Ammo Weight
Post by: SirLoin on February 05, 2002, 09:52:33 AM

Thnx Butch for the information!...I just registered to your forum too

Title: Me109 Ammo Weight
Post by: GRUNHERZ on February 05, 2002, 11:58:32 AM

You can feel the difference between a 30mm armed 109 and a 20mm armed 109 in AH. They model the weight difference.

Title: Me109 Ammo Weight
Post by: fats on February 05, 2002, 05:24:14 PM

You can feel the difference of ~20kg, weight change of less than a percentage? you must be kidding.

Title: Me109 Ammo Weight
Post by: Raubvogel on February 05, 2002, 05:37:03 PM

I can tell the difference between a 30mm armed 109 and a 20mm. The 30mm armed 109 feels more nose-heavy.

Title: Me109 Ammo Weight
Post by: Kratzer on February 05, 2002, 05:53:24 PM

Um... fats, the 30mm is 124% of the weight of the 20mm... not less than a percentage point.   It is 40 pounds, up in the front end... it isn't a huge difference, but it is a difference.

Title: Me109 Ammo Weight
Post by: Porta on February 05, 2002, 06:18:50 PM

You shouldn't notice any "nose heavy" feeling with the MK 108 as the cannon is placed between pilot legs (no second lectures here ;)), no "in the nose".
Also take in mind the weight of compressed air bottles needed to reload the cannon, that were placed in the rear fuselage (couter-balancing any posible "nose heavy" feeling).

Title: Me109 Ammo Weight
Post by: MANDOBLE on February 05, 2002, 06:35:55 PM

Porta, you are right 100%.

Title: Me109 Ammo Weight
Post by: Raubvogel on February 05, 2002, 06:43:12 PM

Well, fly em both and you will notice a difference.

Title: Me109 Ammo Weight
Post by: SpinDoc1 on February 05, 2002, 08:03:14 PM

In response to Kratzer and according to fats earlier comment:   When he said a weight difference of less than one percent, am I wrong in assuming that meant with respect to the entire plane?

SpinDoc

Title: Me109 Ammo Weight
Post by: fats on February 05, 2002, 10:29:56 PM

Yeah I meant the whole plane's weight - figured it would be _obvious_ to everyone.

// fats