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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: batdog on February 06, 2002, 11:56:55 AM
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Well...from the Illiad(sp?) who was more brave. Was it Hector when he went forth to fight Achilles in his wrath when Hector knew he had no chance against a demi god that was invunerable to his weapons (except that heal..but only Paris was told of that) or Achilles who knew if he fought before the walls of Troy his doom was assured?
xBAT
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Everyone knows Achilles was a little momma's boy, who only lived up to the battle of Troy because she followed him around everywhere protecting him.
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Although my recollection of the Illiad is a little fuzzy, I would say Hector. To go into a doomed fight because it is your duty seems a higher sort of courage than to do so for glory, which is my understanding of their respective motivations.
I personally sincerely hope to avoid all such choices, and to dispatch my enemies (demi-god or otherwise) from long range and safely behind a rock.
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Neither. It was Helen and for living in what is modern day Turkey
;)
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Ahh, so Bluefish picks Paris.
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You betcha!!! .Maybe not for bravery but he did get the girl (for what that was worth) plus a city named after him (sort of a classical Greek Flashman). Don't remember how Paris ended up in the story, but he probably retired to run a brothel and casino in Babylon.
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Sounds like someone wants free homework assistance!:eek:
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He died not long after killing Achilles. He was wounded by an arrow and taken to a woman who could cure him, but would not, because he'd dumped her.
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They were both equally stupid. But the mortal was luckier, so go figure!
NEXT!
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Ahh, well, that would have never happened to Flashman- he always left the little darlings with fond feelings.
Memo to self: never burn your bridges, and avoid people with bows and arrows in general geographical vicinity of ex-wives.
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Naaa..no home work here. I'm 35 yrs old. I agree that it was Hector... he stood no chance yet went forth to certain defeat and death.
The Illiad is a good book for "life" and dealing w/conflict. It teachs one many lessons. I love it.
xBAT
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I'd plump for Diomedes who had the temerity to actually fight a god.
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AJAX RoOlZ !!!
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Paris was wounded by one of hydra poisoned arrows of Hercules (who was not himself at Troy) Paris had been rendered invulnerable by Aphrodite (I think) who would normally swat away the arrows aimed at him to keep him safe. But if the poisoned arrows struck her she would be left with a festering wound for eternity and could not protect Paris and he fell.
:D I see that greek and roman mythology class I took is finally paying off. :)
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Aquaman would kick all their asses.
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Not so sure Raub. That snake head lady, I hear, could kick some serious tail! And that guy with one eye.....coulda held the WWF title for sure.
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bah wotan killed his creator and went on to fight fenris in which his death and the end of his age were certain.
as fenris open his mouth as wide as the distance from the earth to the moon and swallowed odin , odin struck with his sword throuth the beast stomach into its heart killing it before he died himself.
or what about tyr who sacrificed his righthand in the service of his folk....
courage is found through Asatru...........
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(written free from memory here, so dont sue me if I screw up on the details).
Zeus threw a big party at the Olympus, but he forgot to invite one of the gods. It was [insert correct name of female goddess here] and she was the god of jealousy or something like that.
Naturally this pissed her off royally, so she decided to ruin the big party. She manufactured an apple of pure gold, and on the apple she inscribed "to the most beautiful one", and she threw the apple into the palace.
When it landed on the table, one of the Gods picked it up, and read the inscription. And soon the worst cat fight in history broke loose. Every female goddess in that party decided that she was the most beautiful one and claimed the apple for herself. All the male Gods tried to avoid getting sucked in to that argument, and hid in a corner. Soon 3 major contestants emerged. Hera, who was Zeus wife, Athena, who was the goddess of war or hunting (cant remember which one), and Venus, the goddess of love. These three women approached Zeus with the apple and demanded that he decide which one would get the apple. Naturally (since he had half a brain) he refused to touch that one. Furthermore, he told the women to stop pestering the gods with the apple-issue.
The three women would not give up however, they still needed someone to judge who was the most beautiful one amongst them. Someone came up with the idea to let a mortal decide the issue.
Enter Paris.
He was the king of Troy, and he was casually strolling along a beach somewhere in Greece when -poof- Hera, Athena and Venus appeared beside him. They explained the issue, and demanded that he choose among them who was the most beautiful one. Since he was a mortal, he did not dare to refuse. But he asked for one hour to think about it alone. The three women agreed, and left him alone.
Naturally they all tried to bribe him though. First, Hera approached him and said that if he choose her, she would make him the wealthiest man in the world. Then Athena came and said that if he choose her, he would never loose a single battle in all his wars. And lastly, Venus came, and she said that if he choose her, she would give him the blessing of true, happy love.
After weighing his options Paris choose Venus. Something that seriously pissed of the other two contestants. Athena vowed that Paris would never win a war again, and Hera vowed that she would make sure he died a poor man. Venus was happy though, and promised Paris that he would be blessed with true and real love, and that people would always remember his and his lovers fate.
Sometime after this, Paris was invited to the wedding between [insert name of Greek king here] and Helena. Naturally he and Helena fell in love, since she was like the most beautiful girl ever, and Venus kept her promise. They fell in love, and decided to run away together, which they did. The Greek king was a little upset by this, understandable, since Paris ran away with his bride on the wedding night. War was declared. Enter the Illiad.
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Originally posted by Fatty
Everyone knows Achilles was a little momma's boy, who only lived up to the battle of Troy because she followed him around everywhere protecting him.
yeah - ditto.
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I always though Patrocles had big balls of brass for donning Achilles gear and going to fight when Achilles would not.
Westy
p.s. Illiad is my favorite book, no, EPIC! of all time. They have the Illiad online here: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/
and also (faster) here:
http://classics.mit.edu/Homer/iliad.html
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Paris was a little fairy twit too, you could have quite the thread on who was a bigger pansy, Paris or Achilles. He causes the war, never fights, relies on his big brother to die fighting for him, at one point is actually forced into fighting Menelaus but then as soon as he starts to lose (he never actually fought, aside from halfheartedly tossing his spear), his mother spirits him away to Troy. Thus the war continues.
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Zeus threw a big party at the Olympus, but he forgot to invite one of the gods. It was [insert correct name of female goddess here] and she was the god of jealousy or something like that.
Eris, goddess of strife.
Athene (Athena is the Latin version) was goddess of war and wisdom.
Helen was married to Menelaus.
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i had a crush on iris for some reason. no, really....
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Hail Eris! (Goddess of confusion, chaos, discord, bureaucracy & international relations)
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Goddess of bureaucracy?