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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: lazs on March 11, 2001, 09:23:00 AM
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This black fog crap is unplayable for me. It's not like we had too many fields to take off from before but now half the map is in "dim monitor" mode. Is it to force people to use the vehicles?
lazs
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Lazs, can you please tell the audience ONE thing you like about AH? [Other than furballin'.]
I have problems with some aspects of AH,[C'mon, please redo the B17 externals focusing on the area where the engine panels merge with the wings HTC.] but wow, you seem to have problems with the whole damned game if you cannot take off shooting.
Are you a masochist?
I only ask because you seem to enjoy all the pain AH appearantly inflicts on you, else why do you stay?
Half the map?
I found 2 Rook bases that were under the weather front and as soon as I took the time to climb into and above the clouds it was really amazing looking down into the massive cloud layer and actually feeling the depth of same.
I have MA and POINTS issues but I have none with the increasingly great graphics and figure the grey wall is a temporary feature that will be addressed.
Take a pill or somethin' Lazs.
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When did they put this thing in here and WTF is it for?
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heh, I call it the smog monster from that 1971 godzilla film.
Above the cloud layers is one of the best features Ive seen in a long time. Was awesome to climb above it, drop down through IFR, pick off and unsuspecting B17 and climb back to sunshine.
However, the huge gray boxes (storm or something?) looks like a serious graphic bug, and is terribly distracting. Really bad.
Also, total lack of target orientation in the gry stuff makes fights hard, although I found it alot of fun.
Skernsk has a Atari computer or something very slow and he was saying it almost got unplayable in the soup at lower res and not a big hi res monitor. Dunno 'bout that.
I really hope the whole thing is removed, tweaked and reinstalled. But please remove the "smog monster".
It just isn't ready for primetime MA, but a seriously cool idea.
[This message has been edited by Creamo (edited 03-11-2001).]
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Great idea, but needs some tweaking. For some, it's unplayable. Under the new clouds, I couldn't see a thing and I have my gamma/color correction adjusted very bright. Need to lighten up things a bit I think.
bowser
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sunchaser... (soon to be a very apt handle for us all)... Ok, we know you don't like me as a feature but very little else. try responding to what I say rather than analyzing me. I just checked the arena and allmost half of it was in the black fog. The very first thing I ever complained about on AH was that the 1.03 flight models were wrong as to turn. I have also complained that perk rides unbalance the arena and that killing a couple of buildings with a lone bomber to limit gameplay was a bogus and silly feature. you may respond to those if you like. Oh, I allso felt that some sort of clickable six call would be more realistic.
The features I do like about AH are the flight modeles and the gunnery. I think the cv's are ok and glad they are in the game.
The strat makes no differece to me except when it affects me. It is silly in the extreme and is a childish "game" feature. The bombers are a joke. They are a strategic element in a game with no strategy.
The best part about a sim that uses WWII ac for air combat is that you have some parity and variety. A tough balancing act but we were doing ok. Now.... with the perk system we are assured that the arena will be unbalanced 100% of the time. The latest plane additions are not so much additions as a shift in emphisis. We gain late war planes but make an equal number of earlier planes useless. This is no gain unless u are late war centric.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs:
We gain late war planes but make an equal number of earlier planes useless. This is no gain unless u are late war centric.
lazs
No, the earlier planes are more useful, lazs..no other way to GET perk points quickly.
And please, could you wait to whine about perk planes or any of the 1.06 added aircraft until one actually shoots you down?(Which has yet to happen)
[This message has been edited by Torgo (edited 03-11-2001).]
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Well, personally I LOVE the storm front clouds. I only find 2 bad things about them:
1) Dimmed icons/clipboard map. Dim icons I can live with, after all, there is supposed to be little light in there, but the clipboard map is completely unreadable.
2) A strange blue square on the right side of the screen. Various players took pics of this bug.
HT, you did a GREAT job with those clouds, they are incredible. I climbed above the storm clouds and found myself cruising above an overcast cloud layer, it was awesome! Not to mention that La-7 I tangled with hopping above and below the clouds.. that was intense!
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"The strat makes no differece to me except when it affects me. It is silly in the extreme and is a childish "game" feature."
Massive multiplayer games are worth it for the strat, im here for the whole experience, furballs, buffing, events... and my 30$ are as good as yours.
You have been told 1000 times to go to big furballs in the MA, else to the TA, else to H2H, else other game if you donīt like regular AH arena play, which lot of us seem to enjoy. You want a pure ACM simulator, go build one, AH is more than that, that's why i play it.
Stop that whine-o-matic guy....
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torgo.. avoiding perk planes is pretty easy for now since the arena is so full and the guys flying em have no skill in em. this is not only no fun tho but it is certain to change. I've been lucky, and I'm just one guy in the arena, but if you look at the stats for perk plane kills you will see that not everyone has been. And.... it will get worse not better as skill is gained and the people in em are relegated to the better pile its. Anyone who thinks differently is being foolish. The perk plane are allready killing at a higher rate than the dreaded Chog and niki ever did! That's gonna make for a balanced and harmonious arena????
I don't care about strat. do as you please with it. I just don't want it to have quite the dramatic affect on me that it does. the balance is off IMO. In fact, if it were more realistic I might even be interested in it. If you want to pretend you are winning some kind of a war that's fine with me.
Look at the K/D list that deja has printed in another thread. You take the bottom ten planes and just throw em out and no one would even notice. It will get worse.
lazs
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I'm with Lazs, the clouds make the game 100% unplayable.
It is impossible to see enemy planes inside them. Not merely difficult--IMPOSSIBLE. Same with night.
I don't like getting killed by invisible planes.
J_A_B
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That blue square bug is actually where blue sky is peeking through the edge of the cloud mass. It will grow as you get closer to it.
When I first saw it I thought my vid card was dying or there was a bug. It's just a harsh transition between cloud dark and blue sky that will undoubtably get tweaked to be really cool as opposed to a curtain effect.
Suprized to see there have been so few (have there been any?) squeakes about perk planes now that they are implemented.
Cue lazs.... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Rape, pillage, then burn...
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Originally posted by J_A_B:
I'm with Lazs, the clouds make the game 100% unplayable.
It is impossible to see enemy planes inside them. Not merely difficult--IMPOSSIBLE. Same with night.
J_A_B
Twice I flew into a cloud bank. FIrst time I came out with 4 kills. Second time I came out with 3 kills. Both times in the La5.
Pretty easy to see in there if you ask me.
-SW
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Look at the K/D list that deja has printed in another thread. You take the bottom ten planes and just throw em out and no one would even notice. It will get worse.
Those bottom ten planes account for twice the usage as any of the top 10 planes since 1.06 was released, and nearly 3 times the usage since the tour rolled over.
The C.202 saw as much action in the three days since 1.06 came out as it did in the week prior to 1.06. That's over twice the usage.
AKDejaVu
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The grey wall needs to be fixed, but the cloud layer is great. Flying on top of that layer is the coolest thing I've seen in a sim. Tracked a Ju88 just below the layer last night. Dropped through the clouds and popped through d700 off his 6. Its an awesome game feature.
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Those clouds are waaay kewl, took off in a Ju88 flew at 15,000 feet right smack dab in the middle of the cloud layer popped out over nme base dropped bombs and ducked back into the clouds. Ya couldn't ask for anything better!
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It's nice that some people can see in the dark and clouds...but that doesn't change the fact that I can't.
I am sure you wouldn't like them either if YOU couldn't see anything either.
J_A_B
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Never mind. Saw in other topic JAB and Verm tried gamma settings.
[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 03-11-2001).]
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I agree with Tac.
There was a hugh storm at 45. I upped 51 and grabbed into it heading to 45. Popping in and out of the clouds checking for cons. Started a dive out of clouds to 45 and cons came up, there Icons are a very dark red allmost black. It was wild, very hard to pick out cons against the ground.
Im guessing this is how it would be in bad weather conditions and i gota tell ya, i like it!!!!!!!!!
Got an 8 kill sortie in this storm in the Typhoon, rtb to a51 to hot rearm upped and added 2 more kills try to get to 45. Anyway rtb with a total of 10 kills.
What was even better was night time, the fighting was fantasic and soon found out it should be done with a winggie at night. 6 calls are handy as hell...
I like the strom front and night fighting.
Dog out.........
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I like the clouds. I like the effect when inside the weather.
I dont like the grey wall. I dont like the squareness of the cloud bank either. It should be less symetrical. Should be more chaotic. Sort of like nature.
I would also like to the sun to have a larger diameter of influence. Its effect is too narrow.
Lasz, is the party over?
Y
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Scarey. I almost agree with lazs. The frame rate hit I experienced in the cloud layer, and near a field, was horrible. I think this will be fixed, as well as the transparency/buffer issue. The gray box is weird, but there are other issues at hand I can see.
The shadow effect under the clouds is really cool, but I think the clipboard should be unaffected, rather then darkened the way it is. I also noticed that being coalt, or below cloud layer, while simultaneously between the sun and cloud caused my plane to be in shadow. Obviously, this is a bug and I hope related to the transparency/buffer thing (you can see the ground under a cloud more clearly then the ground outside and through the haze)and, I hope, easy to fix.
All of these other issues concerning strategy and planes that are outclassed will, no doubt, be addressed in the future. For now, we have a really great game to play and plenty of variation to keep us entertained.
Every time there is an update I find myself having to rethink the entire game. That's fun! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I can't wait to see what you have in store for us, HTC! <S>
Voss
13th TAS
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I just built myself a computer for a half of what a custom built box would have cost from one of the major suppliers. AMD 1.0GHz and Geforce2 Pro vid card...it ROCKS!
I like the weather front and clouds! I love popping in and out when in a dogfight...too cool!! <S!> to Pyro and HiTech on this!
Thorns
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The clouds/weather sound like the best innovation that HTC has come up with for AH.
WTG, HTC.
Cabby
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It's the Borg I tell yah.. don't go in there, you'll melt.
..or be assimilated. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
The strat makes no differece to me except when it affects me.
LOL Laz. I just love that part. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
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Is Laz a girl??
She sure squeakes alot, heheh.
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Oh man, I love the new cloud layer. It adds some real new tactical possibilities...
Dimmed clipboard shocked me first but now I come to like it: Hey, that's flying without radar!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Dimmed icons I loved from the first second: Hey, that's flying without those neon billboards over the planes!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Clouds now really offer the possibility to surprise and being surprised! AH was lacking that big time now we got it!!! Yehaw!
If you don't like the layer stay away from that areas! Same with night - hey, it's about 15min every 24 hours or so... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) or grab a GV - extremly suited for surprise attacks... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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~Kirin~
(http://the_kirin.tripod.com/Sig_Ta152f150.jpg)
[This message has been edited by Kirin (edited 03-12-2001).]
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I don't like the clouds , but I guess wwII bomber pilots didn't like em either , I can live with them I guess (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
In perk plane u get very few perk points per kill, I feel most guys will jump back in their niki's and chogs (spit food )
Aces High just keeps getting better
(should be a majority rules thing maybe ,, I have no vote though ) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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What's the difference between Lazs and the Arados Jet engine ?
The Jet engines stop to whine when you pull into the parking spot ..
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That Storm Front and Cloud Layer is a bombers dream, and a buff hunters dream too.
A buff hunters dream because it forces the buffs below the cloud deck to bomb.
A Bombers dream because you can use the cloud deck to evade.
We ran a B26 Sortie over 2 fields that were in the storm. We ran just under the deck, and I mean just under it flying through low hanging wisps at points, on the way to target. If a con got close we would pop up into the clouds to evade and back down to re-locate our target.
It was some of the most fun our squad has had in a while!
These new cloud layers are great!!
Cobra
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What's the difference between Lazs and the Arados Jet engine ?
The Jet engines stop to whine when you pull into the parking spot ..
ROFL!
Thanks Duckwing, I have my new siggie. <G>
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I'm with JAB, I cannot see anything when it gets dark or flying into the rain cloud? I have everything turned to 100% have a geforce2 card and a 17 inch monitor. When it starts to get dark out it is time to do something else then fly as it is now it is impossible to fly, but others seems to kill me at ease when I was flying. Can't make out tac map, cannot see icons and the ground is invisible as well. Landed one time by stroke of luck, died 15 times trying to find a place where I could fly and see. Keep the clouds was fun losing a lanc in them, but the big squareish things need to be fixed.
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jizzhead... it is a badly hacked up version of an old joke. I guess that would make it a good sig for you tho.
lazs
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Cobra you see the new cloud layers fine? No ghuge gray rectangles or any other graphics anomolies?
I'm asking because I'm under the (self-induced) impression that the new clouds have a major problem with them. See the bug forumn for some posts. Huge gray rectangles, demarcation between day and overcast geography is extreme and I suspect the new cloud grpahics as being the source for invisible ships in the fleets when the clouds are even barely close by - even if out of visible range.
Flying under the environment there clouds bring is awsome. As long as I don't look at where the ovecast area ends or like using my 5,7,11,or 1 views when in the same grid they are in.
I'm trying to figure out if I have an obsolete system now and need a new gfx's cards or if I'm not in a minority that has gfx problems around these layers.
The dark of the nighttime nor the dark under the overcast are not a problem. But I wonder what those guys have for sys specs especially graphics cards.
-Westy
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Westy,
I get the big grey WalMart Wall like everyone else. So I do get those anamolies. Although I haven't seen the cloud front around a fleet yet.
I was referring to once you get into the layer a little bit.
Last night, 44 and 37 were both covered deep in the layer. We launched from 44 to 37. It was just a blast.
But, I agree, the edges of the front need some work.
Cobra
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Well... I can't see anything in either the night of the Monsoon's from hell (under cloudbanks).
And if I have an "obsolete system" then more than half or more of the AH population will be upgrading or quitting.
Athlon 800mhz
196 meg RAM
GeForce 256
And a decent system with everything else. No its not top of the line, but its quite a bit more than the "minimum system specs" and is certainly not obsolete.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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JAB, might wanna check if you're not colourblind, I am and I can't see squat under the clouds.
Cheers!
Saw
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"I've looked at clouds from both sides now, from up and down and still somehow it's lifes illusions I recall, I really don't know cloooooooooouds aaaaaat aaaaaaaaaaaallllll.
--Judy Collins from her album "Von Ribbentrop sings Burt Bacharach"
I like 'em. They add a new dimension. I'm sure HT will refine the wall of voodoo to be more realistic.
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lol vvermi;llion if you consider that obsolete you funny (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
i think with a geforce mx and a p3 500 you can run aces high quite well so you sytem is a bit above that (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
ps mine is very similar to yours and i get 6070 fps, and i hate the guys with p2-266s who squeak about fps. get a job and get a new system, hell im a poor college student and i can afford a midrange system (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)of course i have no kids to support (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)