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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Shane on February 13, 2002, 11:48:55 PM
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by arsewipe hblair in the CT...
i was saying how 3 on 1's aren't truly needed, then hblair gets all blue text and "i'm warning you"
i was not abusive nor vulgar and was being responded to, nor singling anyone out - even tho' i'm known for my smack, it was no where near any level that would allow a petty-minded, anal rententive futward like hblair to boot and ban me from the arena.... here's a fugging clue for the fugwad that hblair is.... i was not vulgar, i was not abusive unless the phrase "3 on 1's aren't necessary with dweeb of your so-called caliber in here" wounded his poor little ego.
if you don't like what you're seeing, .squelch shane, ignore shane... nothing, and i mean nothing of what i had said deserved this quite abusive response by hblair - not this time, anyway, and i dare anyone in that arena to say or prove otherwise.
i'm also filing a formal complaint with HTC about this abuse of powers, and i dare hblair to show any justification for the action he took. he was simply flexing his CM powers like an stunninghunk. now i understand why people look down on the CM corps.
of course many of you will say, hahah, yay... still nothing of what i was saying approached anywhere enar the level of smack some of you have seen, i was actually pretty calm, and trying to show that a 3 on 1 is no fun when it occurs over and over, especially with the caliber of pilot that frequents the CT.
all i have to say is screw you hblair and the CM horse you've abused.
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This is exactly why NO player, CM or not should have the specific ability to boot or ban (outside of scenario's in progress).
IMHO, only HTC should be able to do this.
Shane, right or wrong, you are one of the more vocal members of the community lol, not suprised you'd get the attention, although it was not warranted if it happened exactly as you described. I've witnessed FAR worse in the MA and can only assume it goes on in the CT too at times. This doesn't do anything at all to dispell the "elitist" image I've heard of the CT, and surely won't help the numbers there (which I've been patiently watching increase).
...I knew this was going to happen haha.
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Its a really good time to let Shane's ignorance stand on its own. I strongly urge everyone to avoid this one completely. There is absolutely nothing good that can come of this.
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i was not abusive nor vulgar
Yeah well you are now. All those tears just because a CM gave you a warning?
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Sweet!
-SW
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Originally posted by funkedup
Yeah well you are now.
fuggen A. However, my letters to HTC weren't.
:o)
Hblair was playing 800 pound gorilla, and totally wrong in what he did. Period. He way overstepped the bounds of his powers.
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diddly Hblair and the horse he rode in on, this guy has the "mall cop" mentality, you give a person with a shallow and meaningless life a tad bit of power and he turns in DA DA DA SUPERCOP. So get a life Hblair and redirect that little bit of power that you think you have into building a better relationship with yourself. AMEN Shane and Kudos for standing up to the AH nazis
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Wow..never heard of Stat2000.
Anyhow...I aint going to say you are wrong Shane, but you were lipping off, you were WARNED repeatedly. And AFTER the warning you taunted Hblair to take action.
He asked you to cool it...
you kept going.
He typed in Blue to let you know "I'm serious".
And you said something to the efect of..LOL! Typing in blue...OOOOoo I'm scared. And continued.
I did not see anything real vulgar, but I was flying and may have missed something. I had no idea you were ejected until you came back in and carried on where you left off.
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the first thing you should do is drop the shovel.
Remember the other day when I lost the advantage and ran back to France in my Hunstang?
You got bent out of shape and started in with the channel 1 smack talk, I twisted your nose a bit then squelched you, I also called in the "gangbangers" to come get you but you finally turned back ;)
A lot of folks use the CT as a break from the MA and don't want to listen to children throwing their toys out of the pram everytime it doesn't go their way.
In the CT I fly like I would if engaged in real combat.... to survive.
If I want mindless furballing and trash talk I fly the MA.
Hblair didn't permanently ban you from the CT, he just gave you some time in the "corner".
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Dont post much....fear of burning at the stake....oh yeah hblair is gonna lose his balls soon anyways...look in the o'club....i guess the possibilty of him losing his balls is makin him "so us his balls"
just a thought
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Originally posted by skernsk
Wow..never heard of Stat2000.
Anyhow...I aint going to say you are wrong Shane, but you were lipping off, you were WARNED repeatedly. And AFTER the warning you taunted Hblair to take action.
He asked you to cool it...
you kept going.
He typed in Blue to let you know "I'm serious".
And you said something to the efect of..LOL! Typing in blue...OOOOoo I'm scared. And continued.
I did not see anything real vulgar, but I was flying and may have missed something. I had no idea you were ejected until you came back in and carried on where you left off.
actually the "ooo i'm scared" was from the first boot. after relogging and telling him it was inappropriate and uncalled for based on the mildness of the whooooollleee situation i basically ignored him. i tried to give AKmork fair warning about whining or he'd get booted. I also said that apparently it's who you know that indicates where the line is drawn. our discussion was very mild, it was a *discussion* more than anything between YOU and I, no one else.
the films went to HTC, wonder how this'll be handled.
:)
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When I step on my dog's tail, he bites too.
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Stat crawl back in your whole. People like HB have done a hell of a lot more for this community than worms like you. Shoo.
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wonder how this'll be handled.
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My gut feel is hblair will come out clean as a whistle. He a straight up guy been here and dedicated to the cause since day one. I suspect he was trying to keep the MA smack out of the CT (kudos for that). I doubt you got much of a prayer on this one shane. Probably should have just kept yer trap shut after the first boot...hehe
Still time to delete these posts however, that can only help yer cause.
Cc: who the hell is stat2000?
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by funkedup
Stat crawl back in your whole. People like HB have done a hell of a lot more for this community than worms like you. Shoo.
not disputing this contention at all, funked, but it doesn't give Hblair the right to throw his weight around like that.
It was uncalled for and totally inappropriate given the specific situation both boots occurred in.
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Heh..Shane we were having a discussion. I was about to ask you why would you come back in after being ejected and keep on pushing it?
I lost host connect before I got my answer. I'm not sure if anyone moderates the MA, but I for one like the fact that the CT was controlled tonight. And don't go tell me they are elite blah blah blah.
The fact is the MA is obviously not monitored and if it is the monitor aint got the ballz to say "buh bye" to the tards who can't shut up and fly. I vulched Kayaprah (or whoever that was) twice and not one single whine. Why? It's part of the game.
I got jumped by 2 109's. Why? It's part of the game. I didn't lip off. I flew as best I could and woke up in the friggin tower. Sucks to be me. What I then did was hit ESCAPE and not / then spawned on the runway and off into the yonder once more.
Had you done that .... no eject. No whiney post, no squeak letter to HTC, no reentry into CT, No second eject, no second post complete with "film".
How many kills could you have gotten in the time wasted arguing over this?
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I was there.. and yah earned the heave-ho.
I enjoy your skill as both an adversary and a wingman... but nobody wants to hear your lip, kid. All anybody has to do is disagree with you and you just ratchet up the volume.. this time a CT was there, asked you to tone it down, asked you to stop it.. you switched to being abusive to him.
He asked you politely, and repeatedly. You gave him no options.. you just kept on talkin smack and you got personally abusive.. just as you did in the posts above.
Deserved.
I hope you get your attitude adjusted soon.. because for a smart kid with a joystick, you sure have a stupid keyboard.
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Shane got booted out of an arena for acting like an ass? hmmm, either the needle on my suprise meter is stuck at zero, or . . .
SOB
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Originally posted by Hangtime
I was there.. and yah earned the heave-ho.
I enjoy your skill as both an adversary and a wingman... but nobody wants to hear your lip, kid. All anybody has to do is disagree with you and you just ratchet up the volume.. this time a CT was there, asked you to tone it down, asked you to stop it.. you switched to being abusive to him.
He asked you politely, and repeatedly. You gave him no options.. you just kept on talkin smack and you got personally abusive.. just as you did in the posts above.
Deserved.
I hope you get your attitude adjusted soon.. because for a smart kid with a joystick, you sure have a stupid keyboard.
personally abusive??? what a crock of bull, especially tonight. you want the films from the 2nd boot? show me where i got abusive whatsoever, dare ya.
yanno, you're making this seems it's me vs you assassouts or perhaps you CM-types, and damned if it's not looking that way. lucky you have a CM or 2 on your side, eh? and if you're not all assassouts, then you're pretty tight buddies in general who think the CT is your private playground - in which case it may be, but shrug, sure seems to me Hblair only got this way cuz i called ya'll "dweebs of your so-called caliber." that's the most abusive comment i can see that i made tonight when this all occurred.
wahh wahhh he called me a dweeb, boot him!!
i may have gotten abusive in the first post here - not in the arena, but it was a well deserved expression on my part for what hblair did. good thing he doesn't have CM powers over the BBS, whew.
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permanent squelch list please
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hmm seems the "attitude adjustment" didn't work HB :p. At least you gave it a try. Guess he deserved it.
Oh, and who cares about stat2000 :D.
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good thing he doesn't have CM powers over the BBS, whew.
That would be like Nazi Germany, but ASSasains instead of Krauts
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What exactly do the AssAssIns have to do with Hblair the CM? His squadron is not a part of this...hell, none of them have even replied to this thread.
SOB
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hehehehe, little baby crying. who knows might be a second id of shane himself. so somebody supports him.
edited of missreading!
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Originally posted by maik
hehehehe, little baby crying. who knows might be a second id of shane himself. so somebody supports him.
edited of missreading!
no. no matter how much i talk, i don't make stuff up. funny to see all the snerts crawling out of the woodwork to gangsmack. just like they fly in the arenas.
;)
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I was not there,
But Hblair has earned my respect, on many levels, repetedly.
Shane has proven himself to be an ass, on many levels, repetedly.
I suppose that I don't need to say exactly who I believe, without question.
eskimo
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wasn't there, but really understand hblair. CM's should have some respect here. they are working hard for us. they deserved it!
btw. that's why i allways wanted to have some rights on TA as a trainer... it's really frustrating, when you need to run all over the arena, to be sefe from vulchers, while teaching a newbie... 'cuz sometimes ANY kind of asking and warning just NOT WORKING...
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Originally posted by eskimo2
I was not there,
But Hblair has earned my respect, on many levels, repetedly.
Shane has proven himself to be an ass, on many levels, repetedly.
I suppose that I don't need to say exactly who I believe, without question.
eskimo
not denying i can be an ass, but this wasn't one of those times. you want the 2 films showing you the second boot? then you will have all the real proof you'll ever need.
but of course you'd not take me up on the offer as it'd shatter your misconceptions - about this particular incident. :eek:
besides, when did CM's become arena TOS cops? not that any TOS was broken, anyway. :rolleyes:
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Freedom of speech does not include freedom of being a menace.
There exists limits and boundaries to every freedom available ,
and those limits and boundaries are produced from common sense,
reasoning, logic and democratic consensus of the community.
This sort of 'control' is nothing to be dismissed as 'totaliarianism'.
The mutual aspect of social life determines somethings are to remain
under social control.
Because determining which is 'inside the line' and which is 'outside
the line' is a delicate process requiring careful consideration, people
with certain authority and power over a social community usually
hesitate to actualy enforce something. They remain a bit lenient,
taking the 'soft way', trying to let things settle by themselves before
action is to be made. Usually take the path of non-intervention.
However, you, Shane, have stepped over the line many times, each
time harassing the folks by incessant accusations and whinings.
Many have witnessed your actions at the MA, and many have also
witnessed your actions in the CT. You make people suffer. You
offend people with your attacks. You abused your freedom over
the radio channel and made it something to be considered shutting
off for common good.
Nobody agrees with your accusations on hb.
Were I a judge, I would declare this case dismissed.
ps) And, the accusations of 'Nazism' for reason a certain squad hb is
in is affiliated with German aircraft is hilarious at best, and very
offending in a personal way.
Your actions we have witnessed over time was that of a very unstable,
bad-tempered individual who would not accept loss of a good-willed
game play. You are a very offensive and unsportsmanly individual.
Therefore, no one will even slightly consider your remarks to be
reasonable. You have discredited yourself.
ps2) who the hell are you, 'stat' ?
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Originally posted by Kweassa
Were I a judge, I would declare this case dismissed.
Your actions we have witnessed over time was that of a very unstable,
bad-tempered individual who would not accept loss of a good-willed game play. You are a very offensive and unsportsmanly individual.
Therefore, no one will even slightly consider your remarks to be
reasonable. You have discredited yourself.
lol, kangaroo court is now in session, i suppose your honor doesn't even want to look at the evidence of this particular case?
unsportmansly because i don't give a faux to the dweebs who constantly have to go 3 on 1 and then pat themseleves on the back for being "leet"?
i used to be nice, i used to be helpful, but the dweebs wore me down.
ever hear the expression, sticks and stones... ? you don't see me going off on newbies, but rather on people who should know a little better.
i often fly at a disadvantage in terms of alt, i expect to get bounced by a higher bogey or two, that's not what gets me going, it's the fact i'm working hard at a disadvantage already and the 3rd or 4th guy has to come in and totally wipe out any sporting chance i may have had.
ask ammo about the sporting chance i gave *him*. the only thing worse than a narrow mind is a closed one.
is this what CM's are now? Hall monitors? Not that in this particular case did i actually tear into anyone other than in generalities of labeling those who have to make it 3 on 1 (which is no fun and unsporting) "dweebs." Hell, i idnd't even call them "lamers" or use any type of masked vulgarity - although, I, like many, have been guilty of that, but not this time, nope.
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Shane,
You are quite pathetical. Wasn't enough your CT post? C'mon, you still have lots of rooms where you didn't post this incident. You can do it, go for it. Nothing so amusing as having a little kid proclaiming his inability to handle an adult level conversation, after letting everybody notice his inability to accept his own lack of SA/Intelligence after showing his inability to handle a harsh combat environment.
Your social skills are pretty well resumed by this whole incident and your final resumee ...all i have to say is diddly you hblair and the CM horse you've abused.... Yeah, this says it all about you.
CT is a singular experience for me in the sense that not only everyone tries to have fun, but also there's a strong feeling that everyone is trying hard for the rest of CT having fun too. I really appreciate hblair is taking his share of responsibility and take measures against someone notably away from this philosophy. This time it's been you, and it's not a single day/single word thing. I would have done the same at that time, based on your general attitude when online. Your most evident skill is ranting on ch1 about whatever unfair circumstance leading to your defeat.
Take this as a lesson, and try to behave accordingly. You will be more than welcomed in CT, as everyone is.
As for statwhatever, It's like the rest of stats.....you know, there are lies, bloody lies and stats. Just ignore all of them, they are worthless ;)
Cheers,
Pepe
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dude i am not even reading this thread but you run your mouth from the time you enter the ct till you leave. I listened to it a few times and now I squelch you as soon as I enter if you in there.
I remember when Hangtime told you to stfu wnen you keep uppin at field that had 3 nme planes patrolling it. Then you would whine over and over about how unfair it is that you always get attacked 3 on 1.
No one you promised you a 1 v 1 engagement. If there was any cm abuse it was only there to counter your constant abusive behavior over the past 2 weeks in the ct.
You should have listen hangtime you wouldn't be in this position. I know folks have complained about you because I was one of them.
You gotta dance with the one who brung ya. Act like a Dic* get treated like one.
WTFG ct cms.....
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it's not always the case, wotan, only when the lame dweebry reaches critical mass is when i start to call it like it is... lame dweebery, which is apparently quite often. seems the CT has become a mini-MA (with all that entails), but with a limited planeset.
tell me, do you spit or swallow?
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This week's book report:
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you cant even excersize any self control here ....... you get what you deserve bud. I know of another guy who got banned from ah for less then what you do. All he did was critize cv ack.
No one gives a crap how much every picks on you.
Keep up the good work. Your abusive Nature in the main as well as in the ct coupled with your attitude in this thread I would cancel your account in a second. Hopefully someone at htc feels the same.
Anyway whine on ya big baby...........
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this might be better reading. :)
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Smacks of the Gunman26 episode dunnit?
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I believe I was one of the 3 on 1. I followed his 109 as he returned to France, he quickly outpaced me and disappeared. Was it Tac who caught him with a faster plane and knocked him down? shane began to cry a bit and then switched sides and continued the "discussion". I logged off and shane dissappeared from the world, now as I read the BB he reappears. I'm off to work and "poof" shane is gone:p
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Isn't just ejecting someone overstepping his authority? He's just a CM and not authorized to enforce TOS, unless it's a sanctioned special event or scenario, correct?
If so, then regardless if Shane was at fault or not, hblair clearly overstop his bounds by ejecting him. It's bound to happen when you give someone tools that they have no training in using and another reason why not even CM's should have boot mojo in any arena other than the Special Events arena.
Ack-Ack
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479th F.G. - Riddle's Raiders
Knights
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Originally posted by Shane
by arsewipe hblair in the CT...
all i have to say is screw you hblair and the CM horse you've abused.
A caveat.... It's really none of my business as I haven't flown AH or WB in well over a year, but I still read and participate in the community boards occasionally.
Shane, I don't know you, but the Hblair I knew from AH and before that WB, wasn't the out-of-control and unreasonable dictator you make him out to be. I would have thought he was actually a good choice for this kind of role, as he's always been a community booster and volunteer. He was particularly friendly and helpful to me on-line.
You might want to rethink the verbal "death spiral" you've got going in this thread.
Just my two cents.....
Regards,
Badger
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Once in a Big scenario, I had a CM (Vadr) brow beat me for speaking to the enemy with friendly hazing using the word "Nazi's"...at the time of his brow beating, I felt he went alittle overboard...but after a few moments when I calmed myself down, I realized that if you set a tone, that tone is the baseline for behavior, and it ONLY DECLINES from there.
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This person is on your Ignore List.
The new Vbb boards feature works wonderful. Just click on someone's profile and in small print at the bottom of the window that pops up is a little link that asks if you want to add this person to your ignore list .
I have six idiots, well seven now (waves bye to toejam2000 as he joins Shane, Seeker, Rotarian, Arlo and the two fluff queens in ignored imbecile land) on my list and it works as good as I wish an online permanent squelch filter would, whenever we get it.
It's like an NNTP kill file. But better. They can't change thier header info to circumvent the filter :)
Westy
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Ya know.....there is a solid reason why HT will never give me any watchdog priviledges.....I would send any whinin, disruptive, insulting malcontents to another sim ina New York minute!!! Permanately!
If I owned HTC, it would be this simple...I don't need anyone's money that cannot respect ALL players and conduct themselves in a manner which promotes community and positive growth within our sim. Don't like something? Fine, just don't puke all over us and yourself in the attempt to communicate how ya feel!
Someone please push the button on this crap...we don't need it as players, and HTC....you don't need their money either.
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Hmm... shane.. sounds like you were a pain in the ass. Sounds like a lot of people are not unhappy that you are gone from "their" arena. but... I have a little trouble with players being able to boot other players.
When something like this happens I learn to appreciate HTC and their balance a little better. I don't really want the inmates runnning the asylum. We got people here that would love to run things... most are not too stable IMO and have no finacial stake in AH. Fortunately they don't get the opportunities.
I think I would rather be in an arena that HTC ran tho than a player regardless (or because of) his good intentions. You can't get too mad at the owner and creator of the game but it rankles to have some other player use athority. It can only get worse not better.. Just my opinion.
lazs
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did this happen yesterday after i logged?
i dont understand it. i had a conversation with shane, pepe and i were dogfighting while hangtime was capturing my fields.
everything seemed ok. now i log on and read more negativity.
what a shame.
ive only been back in AH for four days and the level of negativity is extremely high. kind of boring to be honest.
i was not there. i do not know shane. i do know hblair.
in all my years, ive never seen someone get a verbal pasting without some questionable action starting the whole ruckus.
who started it- or finished it doesnt matter.
what matters is that the actions of one do not effect the enjoyment of the game for others. so, in short, if there is a problem between shane and hblair please take it directly to ht.
no one really cares about this stuff. otherwise this game will erode into a social dysfunctional system like everquest where players get sheer enjoyment by runing the experience for others and the GM's have the ability to ban your account at a whims notice.
i think the AH community is too intelligent for that....lets hope so.
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Anyone from Wisconson please send that boy some Cheese! :rolleyes:
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shane:
Best to keep your mouth closed then to open it and remove all doubt. What has been posted in here shows alot, being it a past or present action.
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hblair
thanks for housekeeping the CT, just sad it even needs it ...
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Some people are going to lose their privs in here too if they don't watch their language.