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Title: Name This...(200)
Post by: brady on February 15, 2002, 09:32:40 PM

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Title: Name This...(200)
Post by: Pongo on February 15, 2002, 10:45:31 PM

GMT class DE

Title: Name This...(200)
Post by: Jester on February 16, 2002, 04:35:53 PM

Evarts Class DE. Cannot make out the Hull number.

Title: Name This...(200)
Post by: brady on February 17, 2002, 11:14:44 AM

USS Engstrom DE 50, Evarts Class, it is:)

Title: Name This...(200)
Post by: Pongo on February 18, 2002, 01:57:28 AM

Interesting that Conways does not use the first penant name for the class name for US DEs.  They call that a GMT class. Even though the first ship is the Evarts.
Janes calls it the Evarts class but Janes is pretty poor.
Are you sure the USN called it the Evarts class?

Title: Name This...(200)
Post by: hazed- on February 18, 2002, 07:53:13 AM

ok for the 200th time..............NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:D

Title: Name This...(200)
Post by: Jester on February 18, 2002, 08:56:34 AM

Pongo... Am not sure why CONWAY calls them "GMT's" - maybe that is what the RN called theirs. Many of the DE's were transfered to the RN on the Lend Lease program.

DE 50 is an EVERTS Class (43 ships) or Short Hull DE

The later longer hulled DE's were:
EDSALL Class (81 ships)
BUCKLEY Class (52 ships)
BOSTWICK Class (57 ships)

While all were basicly similar, that is the class names assigned by the U.S.N.

Title: Name This...(200)
Post by: Pongo on February 18, 2002, 09:40:19 AM

Conways calls the Buckley a TE class
The Bostwick a DET and FMR(first hull was Cannon anyway)
You have not mentioned the TEV and WGT class boats First pennant was Rudderow
Interesting.

Title: Name This...(200)
Post by: Jester on February 18, 2002, 09:58:44 AM

The RUDDERROW class (99 ships) are really not similar to the above classes of DE's. In this class they went from the 3x3" open guns to 2x5" 38.cal. turreted guns - one fore, one aft. That's why I left them out. This was the last class of wartime built DE's. Very sleek and handsome ships. Many were converted to fast transports.

Your "FMR" was the CANNON Class. This was a sub-class of the BUCKLEY's. Many of these ships were transfered on the Lend Lease program. USS Cannon DE-99 was transfered to Brazil in 1944.

BTW, research has come up with USS ENGSTROM DE-50 was the last ship in the EVERTS Class. (DE 5 - 50). The BUCKLEY Class started with DE-51

Hey Pongo, a good site for reasearch is http://hazegrey.org/ if you didn't know of the site.

As for the names in CONWAY's - that has "got to be" a RN classification system. I have NEVER heard them called that before, Only by classes. Interesting though, I will have to write them down. !

Title: Name This...(200)
Post by: Pongo on February 18, 2002, 12:10:25 PM

Thanks Andijg
It is a british book..