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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Hajo on February 18, 2002, 12:05:51 PM
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Just received an Email from Nvidia. The GeForce4 will be available from certain on-line and off-line retailers. The GeForce4 Ti4600 can be preordered from Amazon.com. It will be available March 07 2002.
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For the low, low, price of only one testicle....
;)
Lephturn
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Word is street price is starting at 399.00 with 128 onboard mem.
thier is a lesser G4 with only 64 onboard at around 198.00....
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I seen on techtv that it realy isnt needed yet for most games right now,They said the the G-force 3 does just fine.
Thats just my 2 pesos worth
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Just beware of what yer after, specially if yer looking to the GF4 MX cards for budget reasons. The MX line ain't all that
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1583&p=6 (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1583&p=6)
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I'm old enough to remember when Desoto was a car....... think they where also indians, but Im not that old...
MD
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Backordered mine already at http://www.markonecomputers.com . Yes, I'll miss my left testicle but hey...I gotta do something about this drool thing that starts happenin every time I read about this baby lol.
...Asus top of the line cards are generally a tad more expensive than other's, but..oh well. They also come with lots of goodies.
Tax refund season is a good thing :)
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Originally posted by elstevie
I seen on techtv that it realy isnt needed yet for most games right now,They said the the G-force 3 does just fine.
Thats just my 2 pesos worth
hehe..if I remember right, Leo said the same thing about the Geforce II quite awhile back.
They are right, most likely not needed right now but ...geez they can be such a bunch of nay-sayer's at times.
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I have a GF2 MX / TV out, and perhaps too slow for my system...P4 1.6 / 256MB Ram. I get about 50-70 frames...
My Q is, do I need the new GF4 ti, or is that too much got my comp speed? Or, is the GF3 good for my system speed?
How much improvement can I expect w/ either new card?
Couldnt find the answer to this on the BBs, thanks!
Gainsie
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in most normal gfx mode (ie w/o fsaa, anisotropic filtering and stuff disabled) youīll hardly notice any significant increase over your current card - the human eye canīt notice an increase in frame rate from around 60 fps to lets say around 100 to 120 fps. so, therefore i say, a gf3 (ie a ti200) is fairly enuff for ah and 1280x1024x32 res, no gfx gimmicks fired up.
if you (would like to) run 4x fsaa and 32x anisotropic filtering in ah, iīll suggest you to get that ti4600 card since the main improvements over the gf3 that come with the gf4 gpu concern memory bandwidth / fsaa performance. in most games, a change from a ti500 to a ti4600 will double frame rates when running the games in 4x fsaa (at least the nvidia pr office wants us to believe this *g*).
well, the bottom line is, a ti4600 will only pay if you intend to run ah and stuff at max possible res and/or anti-aliasing enabled. for the average spare time pilot (dunno who that could be *gg*) buying a ti4600 just to cruise around the ma 2 hours a week would be gross overkill imho.
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Wow! Way ovr my head lol..Thanks for replying....but I'm not sure what aliasing or the other technical terms meant.
I fly about 4 hours a night, so it probably would be worth the time for me...What types if improvements can I actually recognize? Yes I will probably be going for the GF3, all said and done, I just don't know what I could expect to see with the uber-card :)
I would run at max possible resolution if I could, but again, if its worth it. The game looks just fine to me as it is.
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if ah looks fine for you, happy lad. running a gf3 or gf4 wonīt enhance gfx quality (well, not unless you enable those gfx gimmicks), but the frame rate will jump into regions where you donīt have to worry about smoke and furballs making your pc 'stutter'. this at even 1600x1200x32bits res (presumed your monitor supports this res at all).
the fsaa (full screen anti-aliasing) fuzz is all about some technique to smooth those jigsaw edges that appear on the screen when diagonal lines are being imaged by your gfx card (think of the canopy frames or the wing edges in ah for instance, they will look much more 'realistic' when their rendered with fsaa enabled, especially when those parts are moving relative to a background). want me to me into detail? donīt think so *ggg* anyways, all those fancy gimmicks like fsaa (see above) or anisotropic filtering (some method to sharpen all that textures used in 3d. will make the ground textures or the planesī surfaces look more detailed for instance) are taking considerably more memory bandwidth (max possible amount of data per time unit that can be moved between the cardīs ram and the cardīs processor.) than the standard gfx modes. your gf2mx isnīt able to provide that bandwidth, so trying to enable these features will most likely totally hose your frame rate, to a degree where the game wonīt be playable at all. the gf3 and gf4 cards can easily handle these heaps of data and will provide playable frame rates at even the highest possible res, and all gfx gimmicks enabled. a gf4 card however, will do slightly better than a gf3 card.
youīll have to know if itīs worth the extra cash. if youīre happy with the way ah looks right now and just want extra fps, go with the ti200. youīre not going to notice any difference in fps when switching from, letīs say, a ti200 (or radeon8500 if you like so) to a ti4x00 (again, the human eye canīt tell between 100 and 120 or 130 frames a second.) ti4x00 only pays for those who want to run fsaa and similar at max res.