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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Sandman on February 20, 2002, 03:56:58 PM
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The Fighter Ace III Open Beta!! (http://fighterace.vr1.com/)
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ppfffffffttttttt
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LOL, you news trolling bastard you! :)
SOB
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Which side does he fly for? Im gonna kill him :D
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Damn.. I thought it was 1.09 :)
But just to be fair, I'm gonna give it a try.
I started from Fighter Ace, tried WarBirds for a short time..
then finally settled to HTC's AH.
I don't wanna say who sucks and who doesn't. I just wish the new
FA3 is something worthwhile the effort the downloading.
More choices for the consumer, and more competition to HTC is
a good thing :) I hope FA3 works out to attract more players and
introduce them to a bit more serious flgihtsim/air combat joy :)
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I really dont know what wersion of Fighter Ace 3 I have on my disk but I almost laughed my bellybutton off when I gave it a try and took some planes for a ride (on full realism of course)... For example Lancaster which starts to do infinite loops after you extend the flaps, no option to man the guns in bombers etc. Maybe the version I have is just too old but if FA3 is going to look and feel like the version I have then its gonna be nothing but an very weired arcade like flying game.
And cockpits are sooooo ugly, view system is almost unusable, textures are in too low res, terrain is one of the worst I have ever seen (including WW2OL :D) etc. etc.
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Hmm.. I've tried it out and got two thoughts:
One) Fighter Ace's greatest enemy as a devoted flight/air combat sim is
the fact that Relaxed Realism exists at all.
Two) but also, Fighter Ace's greatest ally as a commercial online game
that seeks out to the majority of the public not so much talented as to
spend vast amounts of time against a high learning curve, is also the
existence of Relaxed Realism.
The graphics weren't bad(I thought very nice, actually...).. textures seem
nice, the colors were a little deep toned but overall it is enjoyable. The
one especially good, small feature is the cockpits opening and closing :)
FM.. I guess it is a bit strange, and seems easy and forgiving compared
to IL-2 or Aces High(even in Full Real settings), but I guess this is just
up to the developers to model it the way they see fit. There is a way of
fighting in games like AH, and there is as much their own way of fighting
in FA3.. Though my vote goes to AH in the 'more realistic :rolleyes: '
category, FA3 full real FM is pretty much fun, too.
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but the thing is, all the test arenas open are in Relaxed Realism. And
somehow with RR arenas open, I feel there isn't going to be anyone to
fly and fight against in FR arenas when the finished version comes out..
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I guess I've played AH too much to settle for hoardes of people pulling
8G/No black out/no stall super turns... but the strats are pretty interesting
and the map looks nice.
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I guess as a 'first step' for introducing more people into the world of
flight sim games, FA3 will be a very successful one. Dunno how much
of those who took their first step with FA3 would 'advance' to other games
with more realistic features, but at least it is nice to know that people still
stay interested in WW2 air combat :)
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uh oh..Not this again.....!
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LOL go try to download it!. I spent 10 minutes waiting for f*kin advertising banners and gigex downloads.........MS F*K off!
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I didn't download it... :)
Had a friend hand it to me on CD... 240MB!!!
Played with it for a couple of hours... then uninstalled. I don't like it.
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DLing it now - I tried the beta test for the original FA - hated it - was like a friggen arcade game. This one "looks" better - well see.
Mazz
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Is there any way you can download this game with Download accelerator?
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I wouldnt say FA3 is bad, its mainly for a completely different type of player.
And as Kweassa said, most people there will fly relaxed realism. And so did i back in FA 2.
Full realism has no real chance in the FA community, if i remember right, in the peak hours there were 12-15 people in the full realism arena.
So i dont think it is really a competitor for AH.
And the new download client is stupid, cut my DL rate to half, instead of 90KB/s i can only download it at 45KB, thats pretty dump.
The guys from VR-1 are starting to make the same mistake, MS did in the past with FA 2.5, slowing the DL and killing the bandwith.
But nevertheless i will hop in there, to meet old friends and to test all the nice planes we still miss in AH.
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Holy crap... FA3 is worse than the original... I swear - is it just me or is there no freaking difference in the flight model of a Zeke and a Ta152!?!?! Advanced ACM doesnt work - anything can turn with anything - low E doesnt mean anything. Its a wonder this game even has people pay for it... the ONLY nice thing about the game is the selection of aircraft - but considering a P40 can keep up with a Tempest it doesnt really matter... DL was a waste of time - could have been getting my chute shot in AH - would have been more fun.
Mazz
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I am going to download it and see for myself.
If it doesn't have a grossly biased perk system, and a decent P-38, it may be worth looking at. Face it HT isn't going to let us fly an arena competative P-38 or Corsair anytime soon. Two planes I am personally intrested in. I'll probably stick to my YAK until HT perks it, then who knows?? Take out the Dora I quess :(
We can't beat them, may just have to join them.
:(
You will be assimlated :D
AKEagle+
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Plane selection is nice... But FM is pretty crappy even on Full realism... BTW the P38 has dive siren there... :rolleyes: oh well and yes FM of planes seem to be pretty similar... And on full realism the planes did not bleed much E...
And!! They DONT have P-61 there so its not worht of even looking at it anyway :)
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Whats wrong with the P38L? I thought that was the last production P38 to see combat in WW2, wasnt it? Furthermore, the P38 is quite competitive in the MA, in my opinion. Its only bad quality is it isnt fast enough to run from some of the more common planes that tend to get flown in the gangbang packs (la7, dora, G-10, P51). One on one I think it can hang with just about anything in the arena.
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One on one I think it can hang with just about anything in the arena.
Ya may wanna think about what you just said there ;)
True, an AH P-38 in the hands of a great stick is pretty mean, but that can be said about almost any plane. I find the acceleration to be pretty slow, sortta like the non-perked F4Us. But compare them to a LA7, YAK, G10 or a Dora? Freakin sweet planes, and except for the G10, great rides even for a relative newbie like me. :)
Any plane in the gang-bang, lets hit them 5 on 1 or run MA, that dives below 10K to make a kill, is probably gonna die real quick in the MA if it doesn't have accelleration. That is what I meant by "Competative". I suppose if you have a mental "hard deck" of say 15K the P-38 may be OK, never tried that though. It is real nice for Jabo, but I'd rather take the emasculated F4U-D. Just a personal preference :)
AKEagle+
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a little over 40 minutes to d/l and 10 to decide to delete it from my harddrive
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I haven't actually downloaded the game so I can't offer an opinion, but someone should tell 'em that the Valley of the Kings is about 500km south of the Pyramids at Giza.:rolleyes:
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God what they did do the good old FA 2 view system?
FA3 is from my point (i now tried it out online) in no way competitive with AH, the whole view system is simply crap.
Dead angles everywhere when you use the numpad, the padlock view is still the best padlock ever seen in a online sim, but the view distance is the worst aspect. How can anyone do some ACM if the enemy only shows parts (wings, tail etc.) or morphs from a pixel to a real plane at a distance of 500 meters!
The planes 3D modelling is exellent.
What i wish is AH with those top 3D models of the planes, and the rest can stay as it is.
AH's view system is far far superior.
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Excelent 3D models? Can anyone post here the version of FA3 which is current right now (I have one but Im not sure whether its old one or not) because the planemodels and the textures are in such a low res that its noncomparable to AH... (I have build 3046)
I dont really want to download it because the size is just too much for my dial-up (AH has the point in here too because the downloads are pretty short!). And from the screenshots on their site you can tell absolutely nothing because the resolution of images after you click them to see 'larger' image is so small that there is no way to see how does it look like...
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Tried and tried and tried but couldn't find a way to use AH-style "Shift Button+Hatkey" combination views. Why is it the "Up+Fwd=Up/Fwd" works when you use the keypad(5+8 = Up/Fwd), but a button on my stick set to look 'up' doesn't work with the hat keys??
Geez..
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Where's Habu? FA could really use a Cheerleader in this thread.
-Sikboy
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The latest build is 3.067.
The 3D Models are really looking good. Just go and checkout the screenshots part of http://fighterace.vr1.com (http://fighterace.vr1.com) .
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What's wrong with the P38???
it's a perfect plane for AH
i think it's fixed
wtg HTC
BUG322
=Twin Engined Devils=
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
What's wrong with the P38???
it's a perfect plane for AH
i think it's fixed
wtg HTC
BUG322
=Twin Engined Devils=
You are on Tac's squad and you are not on an endless crusade to prove the P-38L is the wrongest thing on Aces High?
WTG. I also agree, my favorit plane is very well represented in AH.
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Originally posted by Naudet
The latest build is 3.067.
The 3D Models are really looking good. Just go and checkout the screenshots part of http://fighterace.vr1.com (http://fighterace.vr1.com) .
Those 'screenshots' are so freaking small that you can see nothing there although you look at the 'larger' ones!
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I had trouble getting FA3 to run on my system. I discovered what the problem is:
The one aircraft I wanted to fly and kept trying to fly has some sort of problem with my system: the P-40. I can't fly either version (though I only wanted to fly the P-40B). All other US aircraft loaded correctly and flew great.
The game still has some rough edges, but it is far better than WB3 and is very competitive with AH in terms of the planeset and graphics. I don't have the time to evaluate the performance curves, but the aircraft felt pretty good compared to WB3. The cowlings are more rounded (AH octagons look really bad from some angles), but the textures seem to shiny or something. Asside from the blockiness of the models, AH aircraft still look better to me. FA3 terrain looks pretty good. But between the improved models and detailed terrain, it sure takes an fps hit with more stuttering too. The big victory for FA3 is the planeset. Plenty of variants in every nationality. Aircraft that were commonly used by more than one nationality tend to have a variant/paint scheme for each of the appropriate nationalities. Of course AH is getting there and probably has higher fidelity flight models as well.
I think AH is still the better product, but significant numbers will probably prefer the eye-candy and planeset of FA3. If these guys offer a competitive price for unlimited hours, AH is going to have genunine competition compared to WB3.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
The Fighter Ace III Open Beta!! (http://fighterace.vr1.com/)
Fighter Arcade 1 and 2 wasnt enough, now they trying a 3rd time lol.
whels
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AH's buisness is safe from this arcade style stuff. IMO the graphics suck. the plane models are alright. the FM sucks. graphics are OK. this game has a LONG way to go before it is ever up to AH quality.
BTW i did wait the hour and a half for the download...took 10 minuets to deleate it
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Guys,
May i say that this BS sucks both here, FA community and WWII Online community.
I have been flying AH for quite some time now, after moving from FA2.5 (which i did not like), i have tried WWII Online (which i hated). In every community MB there is the exact same discussion about what game is best.
I am firstly a pilot and not a gunner, soldier etc. so for me the flying experience is what counts. I do like eye candy as well.
AH is a great game but so is FA3. Me and some of my AH friends downloaded the latest FA3 BETA, which is free until April, and we like it. It is still a BETA so some of the planeset is not 100% yet. We, 8 of us, have decided to give it a try until April. The community there is as good as here with a lot of people trying to help. I do not think the physics sucks as i am there to have fun. We are all different but me and my friends is not looking for the ultimate realism experience we are looking for fun.
The same BS going on about other games on the MB is happening there as well.
In the end of the day we do what we like to have fun. For us, having fun is to fly and fight. The TC concept there is greate.
In the end if FA3 ends up to give us a better and more fun expreience we will stay there if not we will come back to AH. That was how I came in here from the beginning and that is how it will be in the future.
Every game has its advangaes and AH have features that noone have that adds on to the game experience but so have FA3.
Play what you like.
Anyhow have fun.
Zipper9
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Have to admit... this entire thread started out as a 1.09 joke.