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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: WBHoncho on February 20, 2002, 09:58:25 PM
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New batch of players OTW, this time Warbirds. I think there is a WB squad forming even :)
War Birds is increasing price to 25 buck, with 3 months of hoarded updates as the carrot. Not flying with alot of folks who signed up at $9.95.
Sooo, Get ready for some new names. AH is a different game, even with all that head shaking around and hard to configure view system it's still worth a solid 14.95.
If HT were to turn off or make optional that head shaking - and vary engine noise with load/speed of plane - AH would be a perfect home for any WB flyer who isn't into hiway robbery rate increases.
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There's head shake? I didnt notice......
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If you think the head shaking is bad when you are manuevering, you're in for a big surprise when you fire your guns!
I dunno why you guys wouldn't like it, afterall, the gunsight moves with the head so it really doesn't effect your aiming or anything.
As for the engine noise, I asked HT way back in 1.03 or 1.04 why the engine pitch didn't change as the plane got faster but it did as the plane slowed down and he said that it was because he couldn't get it to sound good enough as the speed increased so he did it the way it is now.
I dunno if that applies to the noise as your engine struggles (in a pure vertical move when you are very slow), but I'd guess it does.
Other than that, welcome to AH.
-SW
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I'm not sure I undersatnd your reference to "head shaking".
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Originally posted by majic
I'm not sure I undersatnd your reference to "head shaking".
Same here.:confused:
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Fly any other game and notice whats missing. It is no surprise yall got used to it, maybe we will too. But yeah I bet ya it's #1 reason most WB players shy away from AH.
I remember from orignal beta days - its nothing like it was but its still there. HT is a stubborn CUS.
Originally posted by Thrawn
Same here.:confused:
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being an ex WB-er myself , I remember it but no longer notice it.
You'll forget all about it soon ;)
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Originally posted by majic
I'm not sure I undersatnd your reference to "head shaking".
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Are you talking about the shaking due to compression?
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I recall when I first started flying AH that the head shake was extremely annoying. The truth is though, after about two weeks (tm) I pretty well didn't even notice it anymore. As for the view system, in what way do you feel it is difficult to configure?
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When you go back and review films the headshake is gone and its CORNY AS HELL without it. As for the view system: 24 views at the push of a button and STILL the best view system yet designed, using PAN views of course (although losing the dead 6 would be interesting for sure).
Im looking forward to some freash WBs meat YEAH BABY!!!
Yeager <--flew WBs 96-99 when it was WORTH $2 per hour :)
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Welcome to AH, us.
Some of us came from there too. (Long ago)
eskimo
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Welcome and enjoy! If you don't like the head shaking or cockpit shake, just give it a week or two. After that you won't even know it's there. Hell, until you just mentioned the head shaking I didn't even know it was there. :)
SOB
PS...If you stumble across Animal, don't get too startled. He ain't dead, he just smells that way.
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...and hard to configure view system...
And what does that suppose to mean? :eek: View system in AH hard to configure? IMHO AH has the best configurable view system I have ever seen in any flight sim... :cool:
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Honcho, what the hell are you talking about. DO you have any idea how many of us came here from WBs? I flew it for 5 years under 2 handles, Squad handle was --wd--. You will find many here from WBs and AW-DOS. So please dont think your the 1st WBs guy to move to AH :)
2 weeks and youll be in the swing of things.
Dog out.................
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Originally posted by AKSWulfe
I dunno why you guys wouldn't like it, afterall, the gunsight moves with the head so it really doesn't effect your aiming or anything.
What about all of us who dont use the GS at all? I found it totally useless for D9 guns, so I use the top of the sight as reference, and this moves like hell when I fire the guns. I dont want that "eye candy" effect at all, it keeps ruining my aiming all the time. In the 262 the firing effect is hilarious.
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Hi
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Welcome aboard guys.
I left WB a while ago, dont miss it at all. You will need to make a few adjustments though, and the head moving under high G's is one. But like others mentioned, I don't notice it anymore, and you won't either after a very short while.
You will also have to get used to frequent updates and improvements, they do come along alot quicker here. It keeps the game more interesting.
Also, try to get used to the idea of a company that has decent support, and one that doesnt have the webpage address changing every year or two.
You may be amused by using new features about a year before the competiton rolls them out, stuff like steerable CV groups, M16 half track, tanks, etc.
The flight modeling is differant, and it will be a big adjustment, but once you get used to it, you wouldnt go back to the old one for anything. Take my word on that.
One of the reasons I left WB after many years was the ever changing, ever getting hosed up gunnery and damage modeling. AH guns are quite lethal. I suggest not dwelling on that, rather concentrate on not letting someone get a shot at you, its brain processing time better spent.
The WB community was a great group, but AH has many fine players too.
Dago
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Welcome WB'ers! You'll get used to the head bobbing very quickly: I think that almost everyone that has been here for a tour or more even has forgotten it exists.
Annoying at the beginning, then not having it seems gamey.
As a sidenote: if you got a spiky joystick, as I did when I had analog sticks, the head bobbing is *extremely* annoying, to such a degree that I stopped playing just because of that.
'Hard to configure view system'? Quite simple: move your head left/right/up/down/back/forward as you want, press F10 to save it in that position. If you mean the 18 different views, didn't WB have something like that?
I think you'll find that AH is worth the $14.95 you spend on it. It'll take a few days to get used to but as WB'ers you're used to hi fidelity FM's :).
Always good to get good new sticks into the game. Looking forward to flying with you and against you :).
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Originally posted by Wlfgng
being an ex WB-er myself , I remember it but no longer notice it.
You'll forget all about it soon ;)
What he said about head shake, don't even notice it.
Welcome!
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I also came from WB, and agree with others that you will soon forget the head shake.
To compensate for lack of engine pitch change with airspeed change, turn the volume of the "wind" to maximum, and turn everything else down to 75% or so. This will give you an audio cue for airspeed change.
Welcome aboard!
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Thanks fir the good clues, I am at my office now but will try the f10 thing - I think that was what I was missing. If I understnad correctly then - for each position of my hat switch I can do a f10 save. FOr example I want be able to see backwards righjt and left around the headrest withou holding down a bunch of keys - F10 will fix this?
Great tip on the wind noise - I had no idea how much feedback I was getting from the engine noises before - really hurting me now in trying to guess my energy level. This might fix me up.
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What's Warbirds?
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each view position is adjustable using the 4 arrow keys and poage up and down. eack can be saved using f10.
What planes do ya fly?
maybe some one can email ya their view settings that way you wont have to mess with it too much. I believe snefens used to keep view settings on his webpage to dl.
I dont have a link tho.........
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http://home14.inet.tele.dk/snefens/index2.htm
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Originally posted by popeye
To compensate for lack of engine pitch change with airspeed change, turn the volume of the "wind" to maximum, and turn everything else down to 75% or so. This will give you an audio cue for airspeed change.
beat me to it :)
actually eng volume at about 40% here, rather hear the wind
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Wellcome to Aces high!
Download ready set head position from here (http://home14.inet.tele.dk/snefens/views/views.htm)
You can download all at once or one by one.
Originally posted by WBHoncho
Thanks fir the good clues, I am at my office now but will try the f10 thing - I think that was what I was missing. If I understnad correctly then - for each position of my hat switch I can do a f10 save. FOr example I want be able to see backwards righjt and left around the headrest withou holding down a bunch of keys - F10 will fix this?
Great tip on the wind noise - I had no idea how much feedback I was getting from the engine noises before - really hurting me now in trying to guess my energy level. This might fix me up.
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Welcome new guys. You'll find most of this crowd cut their teeth on WB, and some AW before that. Heck, HT and Pyro came from AW, built WB, and now AH.
The view system IMHO is simply the natural evolution of the WB's view system. It's basically the same, with the notable improvement of a 3D cockpit with a configurable head position for each view in each aircraft. That's pretty sweet. For some more info on the view system, I put an article together on it here:
http://lephturn.webhop.net/views.htm
Note... the gunsight setup doesn't work the same way anymore. I need to update that portion... just ignore the gunsight bit for now. :)
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Welcome to AH!!!
Prolly more head shaking going on now at the WB price increase then you will ever experience in AH!!
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Originally posted by 1776
Welcome to AH!!!
Prolly more head shaking going on now at the WB price increase then you will ever experience in AH!!
Yeah quite brilliant of them, no?
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Mandoble, what about those of you who don't use gunsights?
I don't care, but most people do use gunsights. _ALL_ WWII pilots used gunsights. It's not eyecandy.
You use the top of your gunsight as your reference point? Well what does that tell me about you? That you save your forward viewpoint higher than the default because you are one of those people who want to use it to your advantage so you can do lead shooting much easier.
Sorry, but in real life I'm 5'9", there's no way in hell I could ever have my head moved up to the top of the canopy, therefore I don't save my head position so my eyeballs are affixed to the canopy right above my head to make it easier for lead shooting- I like a challenge.
-SW
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Glad to see some more WB guys coming aboard. Looking forward to seeing you guys in the air.
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Wellcome aboard, as an ex-warbirder, I too recall the headshake thing....if I REALLY try hard to remember....a few days you will no longer notice.
Few days after that, you'll start to wonder why it took you so long to get here:)
Blue