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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Naso on February 21, 2002, 03:09:30 AM

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Naso on February 21, 2002, 03:09:30 AM

Now the Japan will have a bomber, 3 more early war plane  for Germany and GB, and i bet a US surprise,  more, you are probably working on a Russian bomber (Tu-2).

Can you give us Italian players and fans some good news?

An italian plane?

Say a bomber?

SM-79?

Cant Z-1007Bis/Ter?

Both of them necessary for a good scenario in Mediterranean.

Or a fighter?

G55?

Or, with the actual CT Task Forces, only BBs, a recon seaplane, say:

Ro-43?

For recon and observation of the fleet shots.

:)

C'mon, i know you can do it!! ;)

4° Stormo will send you a box of Italian Wines. ;)

Pllllease?

:cool:

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: zeldauno on February 21, 2002, 03:31:58 AM

OK for post of Naso.

Nduma1 4° F. Baracca

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Ape111 on February 21, 2002, 06:04:12 AM

Obviously ,i'llbegin to pray and  strike candles to saint'HT & PYRO...

;)

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Wilbus on February 21, 2002, 06:55:57 AM

I don't care much about Italian planes, the 205 is a kick but plane while the 202... is not so much a kick but plane although very fun to fly :)

I personally want more LW (surprise surprise :D ) but The Italian dudes are LEFT OUT!

Get some Italian rides in the game NOW, a SM79 would be nice, with some torps under it's belly :)

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: hazed- on February 21, 2002, 08:34:05 AM

I also fly the 202 and 205 now and again so italian planes are not my 'first love' but I feel naso has made a fair request here.

I think  4° Stormo  is a colourfull addition to AH. especially as most of its members are actual Italians and should therefore be encouraged to stay here.

I thought the addition of the Canadian mossie was also a great move by HTC.
Im sure they are well aware that the more diverse their customer base the more it attracts people who love the history of WW2 to the game.

Also apparently, the Italians produced what is widely accepted as the best torpedo bomber of the war!

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Viper17 on February 21, 2002, 11:14:25 AM

VIVA ITALIA, VIVA ITALIA, VIVA ITALIA:D I want my G.55:D

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: gatt on February 21, 2002, 12:11:15 PM

Well NASO, I'm sure PYRO and HiTech would prefer somebody to drink the wine with (and yes shes italian too):

(http://celebritiespictures.supereva.it/bellucci/bellucci1.jpg)

Is it enuff for an SM79 "Sparviero"? ;)

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: brady on February 21, 2002, 12:27:53 PM

WOW! that got my attention:) I say add a Cant Z 1007 good bomb load, good torpedo load, respectable deffensive firepower, served throught the war for Italy, IMO a better buff for Italy than the SM 79.


URL: http://www.ophetweb.nl/ww2w/ww2htmls/cantz1007.html


(http://www.accessweb.com/users/mconstab/cant1007.jpg)

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Viper17 on February 21, 2002, 12:45:19 PM

WOW:eek: :eek: :eek: Thats some racy S**T. I saw nipels yay :D :D :D :D :D :eek: :eek: i like it tho. italians are great

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: bigUC on February 21, 2002, 01:11:48 PM

she got kinda dried up hands from doing the dishes, i think shes ready for another mate!  Ti amo, ciccolina!!

I wish this BBS was located in Sweden or Denmark, so we could see more nice stuff!  Would make Brady's 'whats this' sooo much more interesting.

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Doberman on February 21, 2002, 02:07:04 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Viper17
VIVA ITALIA, VIVA ITALIA, VIVA ITALIA:D I want my G.55:D

CC that Viper.  Fiat g.55!  3 20's & a pair of mg's!  ~1500 HP!   And sexy to boot.

D

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Wilbus on February 21, 2002, 02:25:25 PM

The Swedish pictures would cost you alot ;)

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Samm on February 21, 2002, 02:28:38 PM

Bring on the Ba65 !

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Viper17 on February 21, 2002, 06:40:13 PM

wow i have never had someone quote me before:D look at what a G.55 would do to a Hellcat:D

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: brady on February 21, 2002, 08:01:54 PM

LOL bigUC, that it would, OK now who saved that pic to their harddrive, raise hands, come on lets see them:)

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Karnak on February 21, 2002, 09:03:53 PM

I'd like more Italian planes, just like I'd like more French and Finnish planes.  But lets face it, Italy was a minor player.

There are still 2 of the big 5 that have a lote more available, particularly Japan.  We need many more Japanese aircraft and some more Russian aircraft.

Bit player Italy has half as many aircraft as leading player Japan does.  The C.205 (best perk getting aircraft in AH) and C.202 (OK, useful only as a self inflicted challege, but so will the Spit I, Hurri I and Bf110C) against the N1K2 (OK, great all round killer), Ki-61-I-KAIc (not as good as the C.205), A6M5b (great turner, frusterating because everybody simply runs, except Hurris:D) and Ki-67 (remains to be seen how useful/less this is).

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Naso on February 22, 2002, 07:51:44 AM

Karnak, go away from my thread!!! ;)

Well, Italy was the first to fall, but saying was a minor player is a complete BS.

You are wrong.

Was underarmed, sure.

But anyway was the bigger player numberwise in the Mediterranean theatre.

If you want to limit this sim to north europe, or pacific theatre, ok.

BTW dont Hijack my thread.

:mad:

:)

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: hazed- on February 22, 2002, 11:53:48 AM

jesus what a picture that f6f is too.You guys realise how brave that flight deck fellow is?? hes standing on a bloody drop tank in order to try and save the pilot! thats way above and beyond the call of duty, I hope he got a medal for that.

oh and yes thats one italian bird that is now on my desktop! ;)

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Karnak on February 22, 2002, 08:36:21 PM

Naso,

I don't want to limit it at all, but right now a Med. Theatre scenario is far more of a possibility than a Pacific Theatre scenario.  The only significant Italian plane missing is the S.M. 79-II.  The Germans are also aproaching a full bevy.

The Allies need the P-40, and earlier P-38 and the Beaufighter.

Japan has practically nothing to offer a scenario.  The 2nd great carrier power has one, one, carrier aircraft.  The Brits have as many.

Also consider that the Med. Theate is, like the China Burman India and Finnish Front, a minor theatre compared to Weastern Europe, Easter Front and Pacific theatres.  That isn't to diminish the efforts or sacrifices of those who fought and died on those fronts, simply the fact of which fronts were the biggest.

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Naso on February 23, 2002, 03:29:59 AM

I agree with P40, and Beafighter (i would LOVE to fly it, was one of my loved when i was child).

Btw, I'm just asking for 1 italian plane, now that japanese are receiving the ki-67, and i have suspect that this time maybe the surprise is the ki-84 .

I'm asking that in next release, in the pool of the usual 4-5 or even 6 new planes, 1 will be an italian one, seem so absurd request??

I always said that I want any single plane ever built  in WW2 from any nation, and I hope soon or later HTC will satisfy my dream, btw, what I'm asking is:

"can I have 1 italian plane in next version?"

Nothing more, nothing less.

make sense?

:)

P.S.
Hijacker!!  ;)

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Kratzer on February 23, 2002, 11:14:58 AM

G55! G55!

(http://www.luftjagerkorps.com/posts/g55/3.gif)

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Viper17 on February 23, 2002, 11:50:48 AM

THE G.55 FRECA:D :D :D :D :D :D :D VIVA ITALIA VIVA ITALIA:D :D :D

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: AmRaaM on February 25, 2002, 11:41:47 PM

PLEASE ! no more slow arse dogmeat planes  SPEEEEED  is the NEEEEED.\

how bout he219

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Kratzer on February 26, 2002, 09:50:55 AM

The G.55 is NOT slow.

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Karnak on February 27, 2002, 02:50:38 PM

He219 couldn't break 400mph in reality.  It never lived up to the manufacturer's claims of the speed it could make.

And as Kratzer said, the G.55 (and Re2005) were not slow.

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Jack55 on February 27, 2002, 05:34:01 PM

An Italian bomber would be a good addition, but they were all so ugly.  Which one could carry several torpedos?  That's the one to add.

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Sikboy on February 28, 2002, 08:35:06 AM

Quote

Originally posted by brady
WOW! that got my attention:) I say add a Cant Z 1007 good bomb load, good torpedo load, respectable deffensive firepower, served throught the war for Italy, IMO a better buff for Italy than the SM 79.


URL: http://www.ophetweb.nl/ww2w/ww2htmls/cantz1007.html

I like this idea a lot. It seems to fill a lot of the reasons I was asking about in a previous post.

Numbers Produced? Not a big reason, since there were only  536 built according to Brady's source
Main Arena Utility? I think that another Torpedo Bomber would find a home in the MA.
Equal Representation (or more equal anyhow) of Nationalities? That's how this all got started
Scenario Utility? Would be usefull in a Malta Scenario, or North Africa perhaps.
I just want it damnit and piss on those who don't? I'm sure someone feels this way
Combat reputation?I don't know about this one
Public demand? Hmmmm, not too much (as opposed to say the P-40)

It seems like a good idea to me.

-Sikboy

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Esme on February 28, 2002, 01:56:10 PM

Whats with this always wanting the fastest planes BS?! Have (some of) you people no feel for the history, no love of the planes themselves?! (chuckle...)  Some of us like the early-war planes, and as for which fronts were important, well, imagine the consequences if the Axis HAD got their hands on the Middle East and its oil supplies.

Every darned MMOL WW2 combat flight sim game thus far seems to have focused on US  planes, a minimal few that the US fought, and slanted the lot towards late-war planes.  Full marks to AH for starting to pull away from that regime a bit (Lancaster, IL2, Macchis - all good to see), and they certainly shouldnt be discouraged from bringing out another Italian plane. The SM79 would be my choice, followed by the Fiat G55 (I'd love the CR42, but maybe another day, eh? ), but the Sparviero would be just as nice to have as the SM79.  

I'd happily send the Hitech crew a bottle of wine if theyd bring out a He111, Do17 or Do217, though.... :-}

But Sparviero or SM79, pleeeasseee!

Esme

Title: HTC, now it's turn of Italian Aircrafts :)
Post by: Karnak on February 28, 2002, 02:10:57 PM

Esme,

I agree with your sentiment, but I still think we need more Japanese aircraft before we need more Italian aircraft.

Truth be told, if I were to simply request the aircraft that I want, I would only be requesting British aircraft with a sprinkling of Japanese aircraft.  I simply am not interested in flying US, Russian, German or Italian aircraft.

However I don't think that would be good for the game or fair for other aircraft fans, so I request the aircraft that I think most appropriate at a given time.  It annoys me when I see others who can't seem to request an aircraft that isn't US or isn't German.  I just don't understand how somebody could think that only US or only German aircraft should be added.