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Title: An alternative to the Goon
Post by: qts on February 24, 2002, 07:19:29 AM: Presenting the Bristol Type 130 'Bombay'. British Warplanes of WW2, p 39.

It's slower than the goon, and has a shorter range (but can take external drop tanks), but has guns fore and aft. It could also load 2000 lb of bombs instead.

Given the large number of non-strat players, I'd suggest that it's worth doing to give the strat players some defense.

Google it here http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Bristol+Type+130+Bombay&btnG=Google+Search
Title: An alternative to the Goon
Post by: Wilbus on February 24, 2002, 07:38:11 AM: Would sugest a JU290 instead. Was capeble of transporting troops aswell as carrying anti shipping missiles, would give us two in one.
Title: An alternative to the Goon
Post by: illo on February 24, 2002, 08:15:56 AM: It's just damn airliner!

Check this out:)

Ar 232B-0 (began to replace ju52 from 1942 on)

4x1200hp BMW-Bramo 323R-2 Fafnir

Max speed 340 km/h
Service ceiling 8.000 m
Range 1.060 km
Weight
Empty 12802 kg
Max 21135 kg
Armament
One Mg 131 mounted in the nose.
One Mg 131 mounted in the rear.
One 20mm Mg 151 mounted in an EDL 151 Dorsal turret.
Eight MG 34/mg 42 infantry machine guns mounted in the sides.

Ar 232B-0
(http://www.geocities.com/avionesymujeres/arado02.jpg)
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/ar232-2.jpg)
Ar 232 V? Prototype
(http://www.geocities.com/avionesymujeres/arado01.jpg)
Title: An alternative to the Goon
Post by: BenDover on February 24, 2002, 09:06:47 AM: i'd prefer an LI-2 (the one from il-2), its the Russian version of the c47, it could carry troops and bombs, and had guns
Title: An alternative to the Goon
Post by: Replicant on February 24, 2002, 10:04:41 AM: The Armstrong Whitworth Albemarle was used by the Commonwealth, France and USSR and is a rather nice looking plane that could be used as a bomber, troop transporter and glider tug.

(http://www.military.cz/british/air/war/bomber/albemarle/albe_pic.jpg)

However, you got to have the Ju-52 in here, it's so ugly it's beautiful! :)

Regards

Nexx
Title: An alternative to the Goon
Post by: MrLars on February 24, 2002, 12:20:29 PM: Give us an Axis transport...I don't know about WB's but AW had only C-47's also...been too many years w/o an Axis cargo bird.
Title: An alternative to the Goon
Post by: jan on February 24, 2002, 12:43:45 PM: junkers ju52/3m (http://www.ophetweb.nl/ww2w/ww2htmls/junkju52.html). there you have it, the axis counterpart to the goon.
Title: An alternative to the Goon
Post by: M.C.202 on February 24, 2002, 02:14:01 PM: Well, to quote a smart, good looking, and peerless.... er me:

I'll go for an Axis one:

Payload 40 + troops and their equipment, or one fighter (dismantled)

Empty weight 23,259lbs, max 39,727lbs

Armament one .50 and four light mgs. and or , or 8,818lbs as a bomber

Range 1,864 miles

Max speed 230mph, cruising 186mph

Built 400+

S.M. 82 Canguru

As compaired to the Ar 232:
..............S.M. 82....................Ar 232
Number built..400.................9
Top speed......230 mph.........211
Cruse speed..186 mph.........180
Range............1,864 miles.....658 miles
Max takeoff weight minus empty weight
......................16,468 lbs......18,371 lbs

__________________
M.C.202
Dino in Reno
Title: sled
Post by: laz on February 24, 2002, 11:18:06 PM: Just tie a snow sled to the back of 262, toss a couple troops on, give it beans, and let lift do the rest :D
Title: An alternative to the Goon
Post by: FDutchmn on February 25, 2002, 07:38:57 AM: On this token, I would like to see the flying boats like the Catalina or the Japanese Emily that can take off from ports as another plane that can fly cargo and troops. :)
Title: An alternative to the Goon
Post by: Angus on February 25, 2002, 08:50:22 AM: How about the Curtiss Commando
Similar to the c43, but a lot more HP's delivering more payload faster.;)
Title: ju instead of C-47
Post by: TheOxman on February 25, 2002, 09:36:52 AM: I think HTC should give us a German troop plane, and have the troops that jump out yell "Schnitzel" :D
Title: An alternative to the Goon
Post by: Midnight on February 25, 2002, 11:50:05 AM: Quote
Originally posted by FDutchmn
On this token, I would like to see the flying boats like the Catalina or the Japanese Emily that can take off from ports as another plane that can fly cargo and troops. :)

Great Idea Dutch!
Title: An alternative to the Goon
Post by: illo on February 25, 2002, 04:01:27 PM: Yup, S.M 82 is good transport. It should have had heavier defensive armament tho. Ar232 was quite rare, even prototypes were put into service,(flown into stalingrad) when S.M 82 was built in numbers. Italian transport would be nice addition imo.
Title: C-46 ?
Post by: KXSwa on February 25, 2002, 04:41:30 PM: http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/modern_flight/mf6.htm
Title: An alternative to the Goon
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on February 25, 2002, 05:46:09 PM: we just need that big messerschmidt so we can carry vechiles too

:rolleyes:

BUG322
=Twin Engined Devils=
Title: Yeah, we DO need something that can carry vechicles.
Post by: KXSwa on February 26, 2002, 12:27:11 AM: I've thought of this myself.

Sometimes there isn't a field close enough to an enemy field for the GVs to be able to get there.

They are quite handy.

An aircraft that could transport 2 to 4 GVs would be awsome !
Title: An alternative to the Goon
Post by: illo on February 26, 2002, 05:34:18 AM: Quote
Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
we just need that big messerschmidt so we can carry vechiles too

Hehe..Gigant? Me323E-2/WT (Waffentranger) Gigant, defensive armament of 11xmg151/20 and 4xmg131 with 600kg extra armor. Wet dream of ackstarrer.
Think about that with AH gunners!!! :D

Normal Me 323 was huge sitting duck, even if it could absorb a tremendous amount of punishment. I read about RAF hurricanes shooting all their ammo on one without getting it down. B-26s and fighterbombers were used to kill these things.