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Post by: Citabria on February 24, 2002, 12:17:19 PM: miss AH. can't wait to get online again and get shot down repeatedly after i get an isp and a modem.

need pci modem are there any decent ones around that are not crap winmodems?
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Post by: FLS on February 24, 2002, 12:21:08 PM: I use the U.S Robotics Gaming Modem. It seems to work well. I've read that there are advantages to external modems but I can't recall what they are offhand.

--)-FLS----
Musketeers
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Post by: Duckwing6 on February 24, 2002, 12:26:44 PM: Hey Mate !!

Hurry back i need a good flight leader who'll save my butt repeatedly :)

as for the Modem, i had an Elsa external.. it was the only thing i EVER plugged in and it worked straight away...

Cheers
Phil (DW6)
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Post by: eskimo2 on February 24, 2002, 12:50:48 PM: Hey Fester, how's it going?
Your working on a flight rating... right?
What type? How are job prospects looking?

eskimo
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Post by: Sancho on February 24, 2002, 12:59:35 PM: there's a few PCI modems out there that aren't crap winmodems. look on pricewatch for "pci hardware modem" or "pci hardware controller modem." You don't want "controller-less" modem. If it supports DOS, Win3.x or Linux, it is a hardware modem and probably good to go.
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Post by: Creamo on February 24, 2002, 01:08:57 PM: Hi! Salute! :)

They sell modems for like $20! :D :) :eek:

And PCI is the norm, can you believe it?!CAN YOU BELIEVE IT! NO? ME EITHER!!!! lol, :D

Good luck buddy, I hope you find a PCI common harware device like a $20 modem, on sale for like$5. That's the norm.

COME BACK SOON! HURRY! THEY WILL HAVE AGP video cards soon, buy the V5500! WTG!
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Post by: Sox62 on February 24, 2002, 01:11:54 PM: If your motherboard is an older one and has an ISA slot,consider an ISA modem.

For whatever reason,they generally get lower pings then PCI modems.

With my last mobo,I got pings that were about 50 milliseconds lower across the board than the pings I got with the PCI modem.
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Post by: Replicant on February 24, 2002, 01:17:22 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Duckwing6
Hey Mate !!

Hurry back i need a good flight leader who'll save my butt repeatedly :)

as for the Modem, i had an Elsa external.. it was the only thing i EVER plugged in and it worked straight away...

Cheers
Phil (DW6)

Yeah, I use an Elsa external modem too and it's the best I've ever had! Well recommended! :)

Regards

Nexx
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Post by: AKDejaVu on February 24, 2002, 01:20:07 PM: Quote
having fun wish i was here

LOL!

I am always here. Sometimes I wish I was there, but when I get there it turns out I'm here.

AKDejaVu
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Post by: illo on February 24, 2002, 01:22:04 PM: Quote
wish i was here

too
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Post by: Saintaw on February 24, 2002, 01:38:17 PM: Hurry back, we're gettin rockets for the 190-f8 I heard somewhere... :)
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Post by: MadBirdCZ on February 25, 2002, 07:59:31 AM: Fester

Im using Microcom External modem and I never ever had any problems with any Microcom modem before. Can only recomend it... ;)
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Post by: Am0n on February 25, 2002, 09:33:44 AM: Hey fester

I used to use a good/cheap modem that gave me incredible ping times (90-120 ms to DHCP!!). This was 2 years ago and it was a ISA modem, i believe they come with a PCI interface now.

The modem was a "Best Data: Data/Fax". I only dropped 60$ on it at the time and im sure they are around 50$ now. Dont buy the US-robotics hype, they sell there name and are equaled buy several lesser known companies for half the cost. All in all just ensure the modem you get is data and not a crappy windodem as you noted!

(if its displayed anywhere on the modem package details you certainly want to make sure that it has a good upload speed(close to download speed), most modems fall short in this department and that creates serious ploblems/lag for online gaming)
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Post by: Tac on February 25, 2002, 10:28:52 AM: Fester, go to Best Buy and get a US ROBOTICS 56k.

If it doesnt say its Winmodem on the box , get it. USR is the best modem brand there is.

Of course, you should be getting a CABLE MODEM, it costs the same as a modem + phone line. Check Time Warner or Adelphia in your area.

If all else fails, AOL has cable , they use the Time Warner lines..but heck, cable is cable, even if they got AOhell slapped on it.
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Post by: pbirmingham on February 25, 2002, 02:40:37 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Sox62
If your motherboard is an older one and has an ISA slot,consider an ISA modem.

For whatever reason,they generally get lower pings then PCI modems.

With my last mobo,I got pings that were about 50 milliseconds lower across the board than the pings I got with the PCI modem.

This is because most ISA modems have a hardware UART (a chip that handles buffering and stuff) while most PCI modems offload this stuff onto the processor (Winmodems are the most common name for these sorts of modems.)

It's a bit of a chore to find non-Winmodem PCI modems, but they do exist. When we had to find one at the company I used to work at (it had to work with Linux) we went with the Zoom Telephonics model 2920.

Your best bet is to look for an on-board UART in the spec sheet, or, failing that, look for Linux support.

You could also get an external and avoid the problem entirely.
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Post by: Rude on February 25, 2002, 02:50:13 PM: Heyas!

You're not missin anything other than about 400 folks to shoot at:)

Give me a shout when ya get back!

(http://www.13thtas.com/rudesig.jpg)
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Post by: popeye on February 25, 2002, 03:29:51 PM: On the advice of someone who will remain nameless, I bought a real expensive USR external modem. It works maybe a tiny bit better than the ISA modem that it replaced, but not $200 better. At least there are flashing lights to watch on those long climbs..... :)
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Post by: SunKing on February 25, 2002, 03:37:00 PM: Heres the modem you want... cheap quality hardware modem pci of course

http://www.estoretogo.com/showitem.asp?item=FX-I56HA
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Post by: Mitsu on February 25, 2002, 04:18:28 PM: Yo Glue.

-Mitsu
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Post by: hblair on February 25, 2002, 04:24:21 PM: lol, I remember the glue handle :)
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Post by: hblair on February 25, 2002, 04:25:23 PM: BTW, I've been running a USR 56k modem for years. Very good for gaming.
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Post by: Hangtime on February 25, 2002, 04:30:53 PM: LOL Creamo!

Gimmie a date cit, I'll sell tickets and hold the bets. :0
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Post by: discod on February 25, 2002, 04:48:31 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Citabria

need pci modem are there any decent ones around that are not crap winmodems?

THERE ARE NO MODEMS THAT WILL WORK FOR YOU!! Oh well I guess you'll just have to stay offline so I can continue to rule the skies. :D

Oh wait, I think that there is one modem that might work for you but it only works for ROOKS! he he he
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Post by: ispar on February 25, 2002, 04:57:00 PM: If you're having trouble finding a non-Winmodem, get an external one and you should be in good shape. Winmodems (heck, maybe internal modems in general?) suck CPU cycles, which at the same time increases their ping times. Not a good thing for gaming.
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Post by: Octavius on February 25, 2002, 05:00:19 PM: Quote
Originally posted by hblair
lol, I remember the glue handle :)

Glue = Citabria = Fester ????

I never knew he was Glue! Sheesh!
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Post by: Manedew on February 25, 2002, 05:06:04 PM: Hurry back Pal;
Twin Engined Devils rule the skies! (and WW TKOTH) Though we still could use the help :D
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Post by: AKSWulfe on February 25, 2002, 05:07:17 PM: External modems are the equivelant of a SCSI device.

PCI modems are the equivelant of ATA66 IDE HDDs.

ISA modems are the equivelant of ATA100 IDE HDDs (in terms of ping time and relative speed)

winmodems, any kind, are the equivelant of a 5 1/4" floppy drive.

ZooM and USR are the best, I've been using a 56K ZooM ISA for the past 2 1/2 years. Got it for free, and works great.
-SW
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Post by: pbirmingham on February 25, 2002, 05:13:49 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SunKing
Heres the modem you want... cheap quality hardware modem pci of course

http://www.estoretogo.com/showitem.asp?item=FX-I56HA

No, I'll bet he doesn't want one because, while it doesn't say "Winmodem," it is a Winmodem, and Fester specifically stated he did not want a Winmodem.
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Post by: SunKing on February 25, 2002, 06:49:17 PM: hows that a winmodem if its a hardware modem? explain please
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Post by: pbirmingham on February 25, 2002, 10:47:42 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SunKing
hows that a winmodem if its a hardware modem? explain please

Hmmm. Looks like my mistake. I looked at the USR page and didn't match up model numbers correctly.
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Post by: AKDejaVu on February 25, 2002, 11:02:59 PM: Hey Cit... do you have an ISA slot in your PC?
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Post by: Minotaur on February 26, 2002, 07:50:47 AM: Modem???

I think the real reason is fear....