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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: aac on February 24, 2002, 09:32:59 PM
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Hitech PLEASE, PLEASE, turn off the kill shooter in MA. If it was turned off then people would quit diving in front of you stealing kills. I have been killed 35 times this month by the D____ kill shooter and most of the time I was inside D500 when the planes came from behind me and passed me while I was shooting. I know they could see the tracers so there is a lot of people that are using kill shooter against fellow countrymen.
ab8aac out
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Welcome to Aces High there guy, just wait till you're firm on a bogie's tail and the fake 6-calls come streaming in from the friendly behind you hoping you'll peel off giving him the shot/kill.
:eek:
Lonz
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I have been killed 35 times this month by the D____ kill shooter and most of the time I was inside D500 when the planes came from behind me and passed me while I was shooting.
LOL! That's a keeper.
AKDejaVu
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Yeah, turn off killshooter so instead of diving in front of him and into his bullet stream, we can dive in behind him and kill him just for our own amusement.
Hey I know, maybe we can make it so only his bullets damage other planes, then he can have alot of fun. Yeah, thats it. :)
I die to killshooter maybe twice a year. If you are dieing 35 times a month, its definitly a problem of your own making. You are probably a shoulder shooter.
Sheeeeeesh, new guys!
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Originally posted by aac
Hitech PLEASE, PLEASE, turn off the kill shooter in MA. If it was turned off then people would quit diving in front of you stealing kills. I have been killed 35 times this month by the D____ kill shooter and most of the time I was inside D500 when the planes came from behind me and passed me while I was shooting. I know they could see the tracers so there is a lot of people that are using kill shooter against fellow countrymen.
ab8aac out
35 times? :) I am usually killed couple time by killshooter during the whole tour, which is .1% of my death in tour. Probably it will help if you unglue your fire button :)
Fariz
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Why not make bullets that hit a friendly plane ineffective?
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Good suggestion Laz. :)
But then some dweeb is gonna ping you to get you out of the way, just like the fake check 6 calls. I hear bullets pinging me, I try to duck. :)
Maybe no sound to the hits either?
AKEagle+
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Who cares?
I sure as hell don't.
How the hell someone can die 35 times to killshooter is beyond me. I guess someone needs to learn a bit of self control when it comes to the trigger finger. At the rate that I die to killshooter incidents, I would need to fly about 200+ hours of AH to even approach that number. Maybe someone needs to go get some sun?
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Well - without killshooter we'd have green dweeb wars.. and of course youd have the odd guy making a name for himself by vulching his own field. Lazer has a good suggestion but even if there is no sound, the sight of tracers coming from the general direction of my bellybutton tends to promote immediate habitual survival behavior. :P
Mazz
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Set to 0 the shooting plane ammo counters, no need to destroy the plane.
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I really have to try hard to get ONE killshoot each tour.... funny.....
Broesy
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Since the case I shot my own bellybutton off in Tempest when I was shooting at a target in front of me and some wiseguy in La7 dove just in front of me and ate the load I really pay attention even to friendly planes in the vicinity and had no single KS death since then... I buy few KS pings sometimes when defending field in M16 shooting at con vulching field and some friendly plane just pases in front but nothing fatal so far...
But 35 deaths due to killshooter in single tour? What?! This is really possible? I dont think so (unless its some guy who takes off the field and then strafes friendly planes taking off - dies on KS - takes off again - cycle repeats (I have seen so many of such ppl in last few weeks)). OK I must say that if I see such a person shooting at friendlies and no enemy is currently near I take a plane and start to buzz him... Almost always he opens fire... and BOOM :D
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Yeah KS fishing can be fun..
Once there was a guy who kept taxi'ing around the field shooting like nuts in his 190..
I took my M16 and parked it in front of his nose..
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Its not quite historicaly correct and I like the Air Warrior fix for that one better.2 friendly kills in 24 hours and you were persona non grata for a 24 hour period..If your killing yourself that much you need to maby check around a bit more.:confused:
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DrDea hmm so you are behind a plane waiting to take the shot and in the second you push the trigger some unlimited E stupid guy with alt advantage decides to zoom the guy you are chasing and you kill yourself (and even better are those who fly 'through' your plane from behind)... It happens to you twice in a day and you end up banned for 24 hours? Because of that sucker who dived in front of you? :eek: Well Il better stick to the KS we have now...
Not even talking about the possibility to abuse it to get rid of someone for 24 hours...
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The reson youre getting so many killshootings is undoubtedly because you fly into those mass furballs and chase a con with a dozen others all trying to get the same kill.
Now when AH had less people in it it was a lot more personal and people remembered your name if you kept interfering in kills (ie like you said flying between bullet streams of someone elses kill)
and soon enough your name would be mud which meant no one helped you out.Now theres just so many theres relative anonimity through the sheer amount of flyers so the game seems to have degenerated into a mass scrap with people ignoring the fact that some other player has worked that enemy into a good firing position.
The amount of times ive chased cons from 20k to the deck only for some bunch of dweebs to swoop in as im about to kill them has changed my way of flying in MA. Now i look for groups of enemy fighters with 1 or 2 friendlies around so i can finish a fight alone.
perhaps the answer is to film and post pics on a weekly 'MORON OF THE WEEK' post? :D
my suggestion is fight further from the masses of idiots who try to steal kills.
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I havent gotten a killshooter in a long time... just be careful in a close in knife fight with multiple friendlies. Part of SA I would say.
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Surely it would be possible for AH software to detect if a plane has actually flown in between u and the bogie in which case the guy who decides to fly in between you and the contact actually takes the damage and has to like it. Should be easy enough to differentiate this from the guy who zooms in while your saddled up on a contact, in which case normal killshooter applies. Would take a bit of work to get the algorithm right but it would be worth it. That's make em think twich before stealin your kill.
BTW kill stealing (shootin critically damaged planes) seems to be on the up again. I'll tell ya the next guy who steals 1 more of my kills better be a two week trialer otherwise he gonna have his name in 72 point font on this BBS with the words "Steals Kills!" underneath. 4 kills blatantly stolen on me last night. I let it go. Figuring if he needs kills that bad then good luck to him. Charity is now over. My patience is now as shot as 262 in a tight furball.
Seems also guys in GV's seem to think that cause their in a GV then its ok to spray at a tumbling wreck. Well its not so stop it right now!!
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Killshooter is the best solution to the problem, and 35 in a month is unusual....in fact, phenomenal.
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Just my 5 pence worth:you have to shot at the red-iconguys,,,
the green one are pals
:rolleyes:
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We have had killshooter in Warbirds too, only guys it was a problem for were the guys that liked to chase 1 enemy with 5 other friendly planes spraying and praying that their bullets hit before the other guy's.
By and large death to kill shooter is a victimless crime.
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"I have been killed 35 times this month...."
Good cod you must have one hellova happy trigger finger. The numbers of times I've been shot down to killshooter, in over two years, I can count on one hand. I propose that the problem is not "killshooter" but instead the shooter.
Westy
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Originally posted by Mathman
Who cares?
I sure as hell don't.
How the hell someone can die 35 times to killshooter is beyond me. I guess someone needs to learn a bit of self control when it comes to the trigger finger. At the rate that I die to killshooter incidents, I would need to fly about 200+ hours of AH to even approach that number. Maybe someone needs to go get some sun?
I have one killshooter in two tours, having sawed the wing off a Mossy who tried to steal my kill, thereby flying straight through the tracer stream.... Yeah, he was a handsomehunk, and every time I saw him for the balance of the evening, I would "check 6" his butt... Unless he really has a con behind him, then it's MMOB time.:D
Payback has no statute of limitations.:p
And yeah, I know I'm a 1st class salamander...;)
My regards,
Widewing
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Don't spray your load everywhere and you'll be ok. I've been killshootered 3 times in 2 1/2 years.
Killshooter is fine.