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Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: vadr on July 02, 2000, 12:44:00 PM
Yo Pyro, Hitech,

I know you guys probably have the new planes you want to release planned out on your whiteboard, but I'd like to give you something to chew on...

This year marks the 60th Anniversary of the Battle of Britain.

I've got some really good outlines for Historical Events to run in recognition of this milestone, but I need the planes to make it work. Specifically:

Spit I
Hurri I
Me109E
Ju87D
He111

A Blenheim would make a useful addition, an Me110 would be nice as well  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Don't know if you can do it, but If you do, I'll develop a series of Historical Events using the aircraft. I guarantee they won't be wasted.

A late August - early September release date would be perfect    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

  (http://www.cgidesign.net/vadre3.jpg)  

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Vadr
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[This message has been edited by vadr (edited 07-02-2000).]
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: Jochen on July 02, 2000, 01:58:00 PM
Supported!

Spit I and bf 109E should be quite straightforward variants and thhus easily developed.

Stuka would be interesting in sense than with minimal work we could have early war dive bomber AND late war tank buster with 2 X 27 mm guns some have been asking for.

Ju 88 we will have shortly could also be early war variant.

Hurricane could also be done in tow versions, early war fighter and mid war grtound attack plane with 2 X 40 mm anti tank guns!

50 year BoB anniversary scenario set would be great publicity stunt for AH.

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jochen Jagdflieger JG 2 'Richthofen' Aces High
jochen Geschwaderkommodore (on leave) Jagdgeschwader 2 'Richthofen' (http://personal.inet.fi/cool/jan.nousiainen/JG2)  Warbirds

Thanks for the Fw 190A-5 HTC!

Ladysmith wants you forthwith to come to her relief
Burn your briefs you leave for France tonight
Carefully cut the straps of the booby-traps and set the captives free
But don't shoot 'til you see her big blue eyes
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: funked on July 02, 2000, 02:09:00 PM
That would be cool, especially in a sim with a decent model for machine guns.  Let's get that terrain editor so we can do 1:1 BoB map.    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

[This message has been edited by funked (edited 07-02-2000).]
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: Duckwing6 on July 02, 2000, 02:10:00 PM
OH yea MAN !!! I would love to fly those He111s ! Oh and don`t forget the Do17 (there could also be a night fighter version of that one -> DO-17Z)

Ahhwwww think about a dawn raid against the radarstations on the english coast with the cliffs of dover lit in by the first moring sun rays that the beautiful AH sunrise offers ...

DW6
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: nonoht on July 02, 2000, 04:17:00 PM
with p39 and p40 we can make Pearl harbor too
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: Ghosth on July 02, 2000, 05:34:00 PM
Sounds good to me.

PUNT!
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on July 02, 2000, 06:18:00 PM
and some D520 too, they sucked but I will fly them proudly (easy kill for u LW freacks)  ... enjoy  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: Ozark on July 02, 2000, 06:42:00 PM
Love the idea! <S> vadr!

BTW: Wasn't it 60 years ago.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Ozark
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: -duma- on July 02, 2000, 06:54:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Ozark:
Love the idea! <S> vadr!

BTW: Wasn't it 60 years ago.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Ozark

Pff.. that's what they WANT you to think..."

Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: Toad on July 02, 2000, 07:15:00 PM
Definitely!

Enlist me in the Eagle Squadron!
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: RAM on July 02, 2000, 07:20:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy:
and some D520 too, they sucked

Huh? D520 was the rough equal of the Me109E...

So they didnt suck, at least not in 1940.


Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: vadr on July 02, 2000, 08:22:00 PM
Doh!

Yes, 60 is the correct number, not 50 (vadr getting addled in his old age...)

The D520 was a bad prettythang ride, there just weren't very many of them. Werner Molders was in fact shot down by a young French pilot in a D520. The Moraine or P36 would be more representative French birds. Both were available in far greater numbers.

In the meantime, check out  My newest creation (http://www.cgidesign.net/ahhs/mmd.htm)  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)



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Vadr
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Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: funked on July 02, 2000, 08:58:00 PM
P-36 (Hawk 75A) would be a good choice, because it's a P-40 from the firewall aft.  P-36 was a very nimble plane with extremely high rate of roll.  About 30 mph slower than a 109E though.
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: crabofix on July 02, 2000, 09:06:00 PM
please guys all sims have those packages!!

Let the htccrew model planes that are noncommon in other sims, maybe some french early planes, polish, glouster gladiator, I15
 etc, etc......
That is if we are to have an "early" planeset.

Crabofix
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: SKurj on July 02, 2000, 09:33:00 PM
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Originally posted by crabofix:
please guys all sims have those packages!!

EEeerr Vadr's suggestion sounds like a good idea to me, from a business standpoint as well as a "what the people want" standpoint.  Obviously many players want some early war AC, which likely means there are other players not currently flying AH that would be interested as well.  A commemorative plane set marketed correctly could add nicely not only to the plane set, but also to the player base.  A second arena  Axis v Allies opening at the same time... woohoo +)  With the release of wwiiol later this year we are gonna see alot of interest in the early war.  Perhaps HTC won't wanna set themselves up for a comparison, or perhaps they would +)

SKurj
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: Hazed on July 02, 2000, 09:58:00 PM
i think early plane set would be good but i muet admit the prospect of different types to those seen in other sims seems the more appealing to me.
gloster gladiator?   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) why not?
swordfish?,me163?,bleinhem?,wellington?
or shermans tigers and other tanks?
how about towed gliders? jeeps? artillary?
could we get submarines?
its endless   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
also id like to be able to get more than 2 people in one plane.whole crews would be great  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

[This message has been edited by Hazed (edited 07-02-2000).]
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: Wanker on July 02, 2000, 10:14:00 PM
While I've always been an avowed early war nut, I must disagree. I don't see any point with HTC trying to compete with WW2OL's planeset right now. In my mind, they(HTC) should instead concentrate on the late war, and "what if" planes, and carve there own unique niche in the market. Finish the late /post war set, then go backwards and start filling out the earlier planesets.

Think of it, guys. AH as an online version of SWOTL.

You may now burn me at the stake!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: fd ski on July 03, 2000, 06:21:00 AM
I would like nothing more then a good Battle of Britain scenario in the sim where guns work. WB surely ain't gonna do it for me.

Please, please , please HTC - let us have a BoB scenario.


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Bartlomiej Rajewski
aka. Wing Commander fd-ski
Northolt Wing
1st Polish Fighter Wing
303 (Polish) Squadron "Kosciuszko" RAF
308 (Polish) Squadron "City of Cracow" RAF
315 (Polish) Squadron "City of Deblin" RAF

Turning 109s and 190s into scrap metal since 1998

Northolt Wing Headquarters (http://www.raf303.org/northolt/)
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: Gazoo on July 03, 2000, 07:05:00 AM
Yes Please!  All for the BoB stuff.

Gazoo
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: DrSoya on July 03, 2000, 08:38:00 AM
Well, personally, I'm getting tired of the same old BoB.

Sorry boss!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

<g, d, r>


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DrSoya
308 (Polish) Squadron "City of Cracow" RAF [AH]
315 (Polish) Squadron "City of Deblin" RAF [WB]
Part of the Northolt Wing (http://www.raf303.org/northolt) (First Polish Fighter Wing)
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: Kaplan on July 03, 2000, 09:01:00 AM
Please HTC give us a BoB plane set...
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: Graywolf on July 03, 2000, 09:12:00 AM
Gets my vote

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Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: Revvin on July 03, 2000, 09:12:00 AM
I have suggested here before about HTC concentrating on one planeset, obviously due to my locality the planeset I'd like to see is  a complete BoB planeset but I'd be just as happy if it were a Pacific planeset just as long as we can organise some scenarios around it! If HTC gave us a BoB or Pacific planeset then while they let the community organise scenarios it would keep us off HTC's back for a while as they work on the next scenario planeset  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

I have to disagree with you banana (unfortunate name to put to a sentance without it looking awkward  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) ) but if there is one thing that bothers me with AH its the desire to want to model obscure planes just for the sake of being different and ignoring some of the classics like the Hurricane and Mosquito as well as the HE111, there's nothing wrong in being different but if its at the expense of creating one planeset for scenario use then I think its HTC that will suffer, there are many pilots in Warbirds who have used the lack of scenarios as an excuse not to even try AH.
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: Pyro on July 03, 2000, 09:45:00 AM
Early Spitfire, 109, and Ju 88 variants could be doable, but our plate is pretty full this summer.  It's something I'll keep in mind as a goal, but it's too early to commit to something like that right now.

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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations


[This message has been edited by Pyro (edited 07-03-2000).]
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: vadr on July 03, 2000, 10:16:00 AM
Thanks for the response Doug. If you could do the early model 109s and Spits, along with a Ju88A-1 (NOT A-4), I could still whip something up that would be fairly cool.

Appreciate anything you can do.

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Vadr
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Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: rfa on July 03, 2000, 02:48:00 PM
Vote for BoB!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

...and 1939 as well!

Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: saetta on July 03, 2000, 04:13:00 PM
Yes! BoB would be great!!
Malta would be great too, I'd love to fly my
crap CR42 against those early Gladiators or Hurris!
France would be quite good, but they just fought for a month (!).
Malta and the Med would be more interesting since they could start with old planes (some very very old ones!...) and end in a Spit V against a C.205 or 109late series.
ciao
Title: Request: BoB plane package
Post by: SnakeEyes on July 04, 2000, 12:24:00 AM
Aren't you guys missing the 110??

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