Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Eagler on February 26, 2002, 09:47:36 AM
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not the ten in a C47 :)
Amazing to think 25% of all alcohol consumed in the US is consumed illegally...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020226/ts_nm/life_alcohol_underage_dc_1&cid=578
1 in 3 "binge" drinks??
What they fail to realize is the pattern they are setting for the rest of their life. Chemical dependency of one form or another, legal or illegal, to get through life's everyday trails and tribulations..
Is anyone straight out there anymore?
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Perhaps it has something to do with the age limit set at 21.
It seems that you can join the military and get killed at 18...but you can't legally drink a cold beer.
Weird system....
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You can also own a bar and hold a liquor license at 18, but you can't drink a beer.
The report states that 25% of all alcohol in the US in consumed illegally, but I wonder what percentage is consumed by non-adults? That would be a more interesting statistic to me. I am more concerned about a 16 year-old drinking a beer than I am a 20 year-old college junior.
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You'd be surprised Mickey... I dont have any real statistics but I think the number of underage drinkers of that category (say, 15-18) is probably in the high 40% range.
(slightly off-topic)
I say, lower the drinking age to 16 and increase the legal driving age a few years to 18. Let the kiddies experiment responsibly, and by the time they're ready to drive, a good % of them would have learned responsible drinking habits (hopefully). They would know when enough is enough (not only for driving, but for curbing habitual drinking habits that begin at an early age). Many kinks would have to be worked out, but after a few years (a decade, give or take a few years) the results would be a positive.
oct out
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Seems that a desire for intoxication is part of human nature. At least part of every human culture we know about.
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Whats the surprise....I'm pretty sure I did most of my drinking before it was legal. Afterwards the fun seemed to wear off, plus it made you feel bad and look bad and smell bad and once you hit 21 it becomes OK to admit it.
:cool:
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Bring on the beer!
The number of kids I knew who drank in high school pales in comparison to the number of kids I knew who drank in college.
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Drinking age here is 18.
And other than the few 16year old kiddies who get a hold of cheap vodka, its all OK.
I have noticed most 18 year olds here are generally more mature whenit comes to drinking, driving, etc, than in the US.
I usually compare PR18 with US21, and PR16 with US18, more or less.
You should see the wild 20year old tourists here getting wasted and doing some stupid crap, and all the young people here watching and enjoying the display of utter tardness.
A few months ago a tourist kid climbed a 50foot tall totem in a BIG carnival celebration here. Everyone there was drunk. But everyone was like wtf is wrong with this guy, except a few of his friends down there who kept hooting and encouraging the guy to go higher. The guy spent a few nights in jail, had to pay a lot of money for damage, and even lost his college scholarship.
His family was like "its their fault for selling alcohol to our kid!"
The "kid" is 20 years old, old enough to be a high ranking officer and a veteran.
A bigger display is Cancun on summers. Anyone whos been there knows what I'm talking about. Its utter madness in a magnitude of tardness only surpassed by the Hitler Youth.
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Teen drinking stats being disputed
02/27/2002
By TAMAR LEWIN / New York Times News Service
After several news organizations reported a finding that underage drinkers consumed a quarter of the nation's alcohol, the widely respected anti-drinking organization that issued the finding acknowledged that it had not applied the usual statistical techniques in deriving that number, which would then have been far smaller.
Indeed, the government agency on whose data the finding was based said that by its own analysis, the figure for the proportion of alcohol consumed by teenagers is 11.4 percent.
The study, "Teen Tipplers," was issued by Columbia University's National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse, whose president, Joseph Califano Jr., was secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under President Jimmy Carter. The report found that 5 million high school students, or 31 percent, engaged in binge drinking – that is, consumed five or more drinks on one occasion – at least once a month.
But it was the 25 percent finding that was the headline on the news release that accompanied the 145-page report, and the one featured by CNN, The Associated Press and other news organizations.
NBC also reported the 25 percent figure but added that the liquor industry and the government contended that the real figure was more like 11 percent. On Tuesday evening, the AP and other news organizations began correcting the original figure.
"It looks like Mr. Califano and CASA have adopted Enron's accounting practices," said Phil Lynch, a spokesman for Brown-Forman Corp., whose products include Jack Daniel's Tennessee whiskey.
What is beyond dispute in various government studies is that teenage drinking remains a serious problem. Although alcohol consumption by teenagers dropped sharply in the 1980s, when states raised the drinking age from 18 to 21, that decline has plateaued since the mid-1990s. From the 1950s until the 1990s, more boys drank than girls, but that gender gap has all but disappeared.
"Underage drinking has reached epidemic proportions in America," Mr. Califano said.
The gender-specific drinking data come from government surveys, with teenagers reporting higher rates of drinking in the Youth Risk Behavior Survey, conducted in schools by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, than they do on the annual National Household Survey on Drug Abuse, which is conducted in homes.
But both surveys show that teenage girls' drinking habits now mirror those of boys.
"The latest findings show no difference between teenage girls' drinking habits and teenage boys'," said a spokeswoman for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
In the most recent school-based survey, 41 percent of the girls and 40 percent of the boys reported drinking alcohol in the last month.
And in the 2000 household survey, 16.2 percent of the boys and 16.5 percent of the girls, ages 12 to 17, reported alcohol use.
Almost half the teens ages 14 to 18 have tried the new alcopops – fruit-flavored, malt-based alcoholic beverages with names such as Hard Lemonade, Smirnoff Ice, Skyy Blue, Tequiza and Hooper's Hooch – which are particularly appealing to young people because of their sweet taste.
Indeed, teens were three times more likely to know about these drinks than adults, and among 14- to 16-year-olds, twice as many preferred such alcopops to beer or mixed drinks.
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You dont make friends with salad, you dont make friends with salad.
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I've done some stupid things when drunk too.
duno which one is worse-
The time i went to a VIP opening of a new bar next to where i work (£1 for any drink, beers, coctails etc) and came came home at about 4am. Feeling hungry i scrumaged through my cupboards and found some cookies. My dog (a welsh springer spaniel) kept begging so i began to tease him (never teased a dog since). After about 5 minutes of teasing him, i shoved the cookie in my mouth and ate it. I leant down to give him a hug and he bit my ear off, i never forgot the look of my mates face. Hehehe, i thought my dog had just given it a little cut- so i stumble to a mirror and to my surprise see my ear hanging down my cheek. Some plastic surgery later and the ear is as good as new- well it looks a bit dodgy.
One night i also proposed to my girlfriend- now that was REALLY Stupid!!
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Dude, I would have *KILLED* that dog.
And then after the failed plastic surgery, I would have become a supervillain.
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Those stats are crap just to light a fire under pro-active parent's tulips because the alchohol producing companies are making too much money.
Legalize dope, solves that problem, right?
:D
-SW