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Title: Swotl
Post by: Killjoy2 on February 28, 2002, 09:16:33 AM
What's the flight sim that got you hooked?  For me it was Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.  After mastering the AI I started thinking, "wouldn't this be great against real people?"  

Then I started reading about Confirmed Kill, but did not have the computing where-with-all to jump in until Warbirds.

I call for a SWOTL Arena.

Found a picture of the cover
(http://www.mytownemall.com/Swotl021.jpeg)

Just pattern it after the original with flight plans and objectives only with real people.  (heheh - he said "real people")

(http://www.mytownemall.com/flyingpig1.jpg)
Title: Swotl
Post by: Sandman on February 28, 2002, 09:30:50 AM
Microprose MiG Alley Ace, Commodore 64 - 1984.
(http://www.cyberroach.com/analog/an19/mig_alley1.jpg)
Microprose F-19 Stealth Fighter, Commodore 64 - 1988
(http://pcgot.free.fr/usaf/appareils/f-19_microprose.jpg)
Title: Swotl
Post by: MadBirdCZ on February 28, 2002, 09:47:48 AM
Loong Time Agooo:

ZX Spectrum - TOMAHAWK
ZX Spectrum - Dambusters
AMIGA - CAP (vector graphics extremely fast!!)
AMIGA - Birds Of Prey (tons of airplanes to fly, multiplayer support!)
AMIGA - Fighter Bomber (few fighterbombers, nice terrain + Inflight refueling!)
AMIGA - Flight Of The Intruder (Vietnam, cooperative multiplayer F-4 and A-6)
AMIGA - Knights Of The Sky (WW1, multiplayer over serial)
AMIGA - Turbo RAKETTI (god I miss this game...)
AMIGA - Armageddon (im not sure about the name but it was multiplatfor sim, with multiplayer support, it was in the future and player had huge research and development teams at hand, underground factories you copuld fly helicopters, fighters, bombers, drive hovercrafts, tanks... agains AI enemy.... it was pretty fast, excellent graphics and stuff...)
AMIGA - Gunship 2000


Prolly all... :)
Title: Swotl
Post by: K West on February 28, 2002, 09:53:31 AM
"F15" circa 86, then a few years off till 92 or so when someone showed me Red Baron and then the Dynamix Aces series arrived.

 Never had a PC at home to fly AW online then (too much $$$ to boot) nor Confiremd Kill turned WB's - even though I'd had each of them on my work PC back then. But my sentiment was about the same;  the AI sucked and I wanted to fly against my friends and coworkers :)

 Westy
Title: Swotl
Post by: SKurj on February 28, 2002, 09:55:30 AM
BoB the lucasarts one
soon to be followed by
Red Baron
AOP
Falcon3

online..

FLyin circus +)


SKurj
Title: Swotl
Post by: popeye on February 28, 2002, 09:58:02 AM
SubLogic Flight Simulator....on a TRS-80 Model I -- with 16K of RAM.
Title: Swotl
Post by: VWE001 on February 28, 2002, 10:12:40 AM
I have an almost new copy of SWOTL on my desk at home... 3.5 floppies, manual, shipping box. I'll bring it with me to the Con this year...
Title: Swotl
Post by: Charon on February 28, 2002, 10:17:08 AM
F-15 on an apple in the mid 1980s, Falcon1 and Their Finest Hour on a PC took it a step farther and then Red Baron Set a standard that was not surpassed until I got into AW around 1993/94.

The game that got me full-fledged into computer gaming has to be Empire, the forerunner of the Civilization style strategy game. I can still remember my first 18-hour gaming day: "Wow, I'm getting a bit tired, it must be midnight. WHAT! 4:30 in the MORNING!"


Charon
Title: Swotl
Post by: Sikboy on February 28, 2002, 10:23:16 AM
I got Aces of the Pacific and the SVGA Airwarrior Box on the same day. (The day after I got my first desktop) in 1993. I'd dinked around with a horrible Line-graphic titled "Top-Gun" but it was the AOP/Airwarrior combo that sold me forever. Stupid GEnie bills, thank god I was in the Navy, or I would have spent my rent money on that damn game.

-Sikboy
Title: Swotl
Post by: WBHoncho on February 28, 2002, 10:31:11 AM
LHX back in 1990.  You can still DL the demo believe it or not.  I like flying the Osprey Tilt Rotor.

Was also the first game I think where A pilot could get wounded and die.

Also of course Wing COmmander
Title: Swotl
Post by: pimpjoe on February 28, 2002, 10:32:26 AM
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/frntpg.gif)
Title: Swotl
Post by: air_guard on February 28, 2002, 10:39:25 AM
First flight sim :
Microprose F-19 Stealth Fighter (Commodore 64)  1988
F16-FIGHTER PILOT (amiga) 1989-90
Tornado 1993 (ibm-pc)
I also played SWOTL about that time.
EF2000/Falcon
and then not until 1998 I flied online in CFS1, moved to Fighter ace and 2 years ago i started here and have stayed here :)

airguard
Title: Swotl
Post by: batdog on February 28, 2002, 10:44:31 AM
CHUCKY YEAGERS AIR COMBAT!!!!!!! Loved being a M-15 killing flights of 262's...lol Oh and I rem the scenerio where your facing a Mig Ace somewhere...

xBAT
Title: Swotl
Post by: kidcol on February 28, 2002, 10:48:02 AM
was a thread like this awhile ago, some HTC crew even chimed in, anybody know how far back BBS search goes?

kid

aha found it

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17680

& the thread before it

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17677
Title: Swotl
Post by: Furious on February 28, 2002, 11:57:43 AM
I miss my Amiga.

sniff, sniff  :(



F.
Title: Swotl
Post by: CptTrips on February 28, 2002, 12:02:54 PM
Sandman,

OMG, I was SOOO addicted to F-19.  THAT was the one that got me hooked.  That was prolly one of the most interesting and intense flightsims I've ever played.  Felt like a cross between flying a plane and commanding a uboat(stealth attack).

I'd give anything for a modern remake of that game.

RB(original) was the next obsession with a little ChuckYeager thrown in for good measure.

Ahhh the memories....
Wab
Title: Swotl
Post by: Oldman731 on February 28, 2002, 12:07:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by popeye
SubLogic Flight Simulator....on a TRS-80 Model I -- with 16K of RAM.


Heh heh.  Been there, done that.  Sure made you appreciate the Microsoft version when it came out.

First real combat game, though, was LucasArts' Battlehawks 1942, followed by BoB1940, SWOTL and the rest.

- oldman
Title: Swotl
Post by: Superfly on February 28, 2002, 12:22:09 PM
B17 Bomber for Intellivision  :)
Title: Swotl
Post by: Raubvogel on February 28, 2002, 12:23:33 PM
F-15 Strike Eagle on a C64. Loved that game. Later on got hooked on Fighter Duel for the Amiga.
Title: Swotl
Post by: Elysian on February 28, 2002, 12:43:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SUPERFLY
B17 Bomber for Intellivision  :)


Oh my God, I remember that game...  My friends and I still imitate the funky-ass speech from that game to this day.  "Watch for flak!", "Bandits... 12 o'clock".... rofl.


cmorris
Title: Swotl
Post by: Udie at Work on February 28, 2002, 12:57:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SUPERFLY
B17 Bomber for Intellivision  :)




 You mean Baysaveanetane Baaawmber!

I spent many an hour on that one :)  It was actually a good sim for the time....
Title: Swotl
Post by: Killjoy2 on February 28, 2002, 01:10:52 PM
Not too many SWOTL here or in the earlier threads.  

VWE001, you will need a 286 to run it on if you take it to the convention.  Any chance you could post some screen shots from SWOTL?

I was actually serious about a SWOTL arena with missions.  Of course this is in the future after AH 1.10 or so.
Title: Swotl
Post by: Karnak on February 28, 2002, 01:11:14 PM
Their Finest Hour: The Battle of Britain on my Atari 520 STfm.

It had Spitfires in it, that was enough to make me buy it.:D

Quote
Originally posted by Furious:
I miss my Amiga.

sniff, sniff :(


I have an Atari 1040 STe sitting right behind me.  I can plug it in anytime I get nostalgic.:p
Title: Swotl
Post by: SOB on February 28, 2002, 01:13:01 PM
Atari - Barnstorming :)


SOB
Title: Swotl
Post by: moose on February 28, 2002, 01:22:00 PM
Aces of Europe and Aces of the Pacific
Title: Swotl
Post by: Apar on February 28, 2002, 01:29:21 PM
SWOTL !!!!, wooohooo, I loved it :D
Title: Swotl
Post by: Lephturn on February 28, 2002, 01:33:42 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SUPERFLY
B17 Bomber for Intellivision  :)


THAT's what it was!

That was the one I was thinking about in one of those older threads.  What a blast :)
Title: Swotl
Post by: Sandman on February 28, 2002, 07:47:48 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AKWabbit
Sandman,

OMG, I was SOOO addicted to F-19.  THAT was the one that got me hooked.  That was prolly one of the most interesting and intense flightsims I've ever played.  Felt like a cross between flying a plane and commanding a uboat(stealth attack).

I'd give anything for a modern remake of that game.

Ahhh the memories....
Wab


Hehe... yeah... I also played it on a 286 PC. No mouse, no stick, limited sound but beeps and clicks. Was quite intensive to fly an entire mission at 75 feet off the ground.
Title: Swotl
Post by: majic on February 28, 2002, 08:04:10 PM
Defender  :)
Title: Swotl
Post by: streakeagle on February 28, 2002, 08:09:58 PM
Originally, the best I could do was the "Combat" game cartridge that came with the Atari 2600.

No one could beat me in the air games on that: biplanes with machine guns in profile looping vertically through clouds or jets in planview turnfighting with guided missiles through clouds.

Later, my first computer was a Timex Sinclair 1000 (ZX81 for you European types). I couldn't afford to get their flight sim, so I used a mixture of BASIC and machine code to make my own. Later I got theirs, but still liked mine better.

My second computer was a Timex Sinclair 2068 (Sinclair Spectrum). For that one I got Fighter Pilot (F-15 sim) and Tomahawk (Apache sim). Those would be my first decent sims.

I still have the Atari 2600, Timex 1000, and Timex 2068. All still work. The cassette went bad for the 1000 flight sim (it was a copy maded from a friend's cassette), but I still have all the others I mentioned.

But the best I ever had prior to getting this computer is the Atari Lynx handheld games with the "Warbirds" WWI air combat simulator. It is up to 4-way free for all with each plane having different colored markings. They are color with 16 bit/16 MHz (really fast for the time even compared to most pcs). I have two complete systems with 2 Warbirds cartridges. The only other cartridge I ever got was the Steel Talons attack helo game, but it wasn't multiplayer :( This game is still plenty of fun and the graphics are pretty impressive for old-style 2d. It got banned on my submarine because people got so excited and noisy when they were playing that they were waking up other people trying to sleep.

(http://helios.acomp.usf.edu/~slflores/Warbirds.jpg)
Title: Swotl
Post by: Löwe on February 28, 2002, 08:21:21 PM
Loved SWOTL. and before that it was Their Finest Hour, and Battle Hawks , which was the very first Lucas Films Flight Sim. But before those it was of course F-15 Strike Eagle, F19 Stealth Fighter, and Mig Alley Ace, all by Microprose, and all on my C-64. My very first flight sim was also by Microprose, it was called Hellcat Ace. I played it on my first computer an Atari 800, this would have been about 1984 or 85, the funny thing was it had a cassette drive and took about 20 mins to load. I could actaully go out and mow the front lawn while I waited for the sim to load. Twenty minutes for a light blue sky, dark blue water, and all yellow airplanes.
I used to dream about playing against other people on modems, back in the 80's. We've come a long way fellas. ;)
Title: Swotl
Post by: Sancho on February 28, 2002, 09:30:46 PM
Back in 1986 or so, MicroProse Gunship on the C64 was the first sim I can remember getting hooked on.  It was the first sim I'd seen with 3d terrain.  The ZSU-20 usually ended my sorties for me. :D
Title: Swotl
Post by: fdiron on February 28, 2002, 09:35:21 PM
I got hooked on SWOTL.  Played the game for a few months before I figured out how to use the time compression feature.
Title: Swotl
Post by: Zigrat on February 28, 2002, 09:41:04 PM
aces of the pacific! high five moose!
Title: Swotl
Post by: Lowstrut on March 01, 2002, 12:41:23 AM
Lets see.. can't remember it's name now.. on the c64 way back.. then it was F19, SWOTL, Aces of the Pacific, Falcon3, RB, FC(w00t damn I still miss this one), RB2/3D..  and the list goes on.. Hooked BAD.. LOL

Heh, I used to use F3 as a screensaver of sorts.. turn on instant action/autopilot.. I'd leave and come back the thing was still owning the sky's 3 hours later LOL
Title: Swotl
Post by: Saurdaukar on March 01, 2002, 04:39:26 AM
First got hooked on "Their Finest Hour"...
Discovered "Aces over Europe" and "Aces of the Pacific"...
Religiously played "SWOTL" (still have box)...
AOL "Air Warrior" introdced me to online flying...
AW2 and AW3 kept me going... kinda...
"WarBirds" caused me to quit...
"European Air War" reminded me of the fun...
"Aces High" brought me back...

Neat story huh? :)

Mazz
<-TFC->
Title: Swotl
Post by: Charge on March 01, 2002, 07:00:56 AM
C64 had Spitfire 40 and after that Dambusters.
The first PC sim I played was Falcon 1.0 which had one of the first H2H option!

Oh those days when a simple square pixel gave wings to imagination..*BEEP!

Syntax Error...

LOAD "ACES HIGH",8,1

LOADING...


-Charge+
Title: Swotl
Post by: Ripsnort on March 01, 2002, 08:11:26 AM
SWOTL and F19 for me!  I took 2 days off work when I got SWOTL and played for 40 of 48 hours. :D
Title: Swotl
Post by: Steven on March 01, 2002, 08:31:57 AM
SubLogic "Jet" was my first simulation.  Delving back into my memory, some other early simulations that come to mind include the original Falcon CGA and then there was LucasArts' Battlehawks and BoB and the Dynamix Aces series.  Falcon 3 is still the king in my book though.
Title: Swotl
Post by: Eagler on March 01, 2002, 08:40:58 AM
1942 BattleHawks

on a 286
Title: Swotl
Post by: Superfly on March 01, 2002, 08:41:35 AM
Udie, does this  sound familiar? (http://members.tripod.com/vulcanjedi/sounds/b17.wav) :D
Title: Swotl
Post by: BakrMan on March 01, 2002, 01:28:42 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Elysian


Oh my God, I remember that game...  My friends and I still imitate the funky-ass speech from that game to this day.  "Watch for flak!", "Bandits... 12 o'clock".... rofl.


cmorris


Just incase anyone actually wants to play this game again on their PC you can download it for free at http://www.intellivisionlives.com they also have a free Intellivision emulator there.  Enjoy!
Title: Swotl
Post by: AKIron on March 01, 2002, 01:36:35 PM
Anyone else remember the 1980 Avalon Hill game B1 Bomber?