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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: jbroey3 on March 05, 2002, 03:45:18 PM
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Hello, I was just wondering if anyone here has heard of, or is familiar with PanAm Internation Flight Academy?
I have been accepted into their program and would like to know from others that may have an overview of thier experience there as well. :-)
Thanks -Jbroey3
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:turns around from the black board, puts chalk down.... Stares at the class......
Anyone??? Anyone?????
:confused: :eek:
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flight schools to avoid when in florida:
Airline Training Academy
Tab Express
and any other school saying they have connections to the commuter airlines and can get you a job directly into the right seat of a turboprop or jet.
does panam offer this hype?
if so...
dont walk away,
run
these people have no concern for their students if they are still saying this crap after 9/11.
they will love your money though:D
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Cit is right. dont bother with the "quick ticket" schools. Find yourself a good instuctor at your local airport.
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First ... this thread is off topic and should be in the O'Club:p
As far as I know, Panam (if the one in FL) is a good 141 flight school. The few people I know from Panam didn't really complained about flight instructors, aircraft maintenance/disponibility, sillabusses or school management.
Other major flight school in Florida :
- ATA (Orlando Exec), like Cit said stay away from it. Would it be from the flight instructor side or student side, I eard only complaints.
- Flight Safety (Vero Beach), from single engine to anything that flies, 30+ academies around the world ... they are well oiled to provide flight training. I met several people trained by them, none complained. Very professional.
The down side may be a "walk or die" attitude. Better work your butt off, if you fall behind the learning curve they kick you out.
- Florida Institute of Technology, I know this one prety well as I was a student there and flight instructed for them for more than a year. They used to have some major problems in organization but they corrected it. They still provide a very professional training but if you ask me it's going down more and more.
As a flight instructor, I have been ordered to pass students when they would definatly not deserve it... then asked why I passed them when they ran off the runway.:cool: FIT is pretty expensive too. They have no airline partnership but most ex FIT fly for CoEx, they like us. Good bunch of CFIs there, but the chain of command is not to be trusted. FIT can teach monkeys to fly, meaning that even if you are a total moron, they will not fail you and will keep teaching till you pass.
- Embry Riddle (Daytona), it's the typical pilot factory. I eard good things about them and the usual complains associated with those big schools. (instructor availability, number 15 for take off (sitting idle on the taxiway while money runs away, lack of personal assistance)
- Phoenix East (Daytona), 80% are foreign students, 40% arabics. The boss is arabic too and wanted to hire me for free for two years. Students seemed to like it, instructors too, personaly I didn't when I toured the place.
- PhillAir (Daytona), small 141 school. Doesn't look professional at all, suffered numerous accidents/incidents. People were very kind when I toured the place, good athmosphere.
- Tamiami (Tamiami I think). No idea but I eard some kids who liked it.... I hope it's Tamiami the name of the school.
STAY AWAY FROM : International Flight Training Academy. The guy is a crook. Both students and CFIs got in trouble moneywise with S.Fisher.
When you choose a place, go there and talk to students AND flight instructors. Only them know what is going on, trust nothing else.
You can choose "the local flight school part 61", but you will definitly notice a difference in the professionalisum. The school listed above will mostly squeak you with being on time, the procedures of the schools, be unforgiving with the manoeuvers, the regulation, the safety, the manuals, the operation ... but after all it's only what Airlines are about. Now if you don't care about airlines job and really want to learn the proper way of flying and how to stay alive, go to your flight instructor of your local airport :)
Hope this helps... remember it's my POV, others may have a different one.
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Hello All,
Thank you very much for the replies, I have spoken with the folks at pan-am as well as students that are currently attending. Everything seems very kosher (sp?) with thier program.
I am looking forward to attending as I have heard many good things about the Fort Pierce campus.
I have heard many negitives as far as the phoenix campus goes, but supposedly this was due to bad managment over on that side. This has since been corrected as far as I am hearing now.
Citabria, they have told me about connections to certain companies that they have aggreements with as far as hire-on with lower hours and such, however the "A.C.E." program at pan-am (sort of a Airline prep finishing up course) is nescessary before applying.
Wooten, I have found a good instructor, however.. he has a full schedule of students, of which take up about 95% of his time.. basically I would still only be able to fly once or maybe twice a week at that rate. :( With the 141 school I would be flying around 4 - 6 hours a day for about 5 days a week after ground school.
I think the ultimate issue is ... time over X amount of money, the more money, (it is going to cost, the more time/Frequency of flying I will do) aka Flight academy.
Frenchy thank you for all the information about the others schools as well :)
I had figured everything up as far as cost wise for the attendence and the completion of my PPL, instrument, CFI, CFII, MEI, and it comes to approximantly 67,450$$. I have spoken with a financial advisor over at Pan-am as well and they have recommended that I take out a full 80,000$ loan. :eek:
My figure pretty much summed up all costs of living as well as the optained licenses, Rent, food, Check-rides, supplies etc.... But it is still recommended that I take out 80,000$ as they can reduce the amount if I do not use a portion of the funds.
Anyway.. If anyone has anything else to add, Please DO! :)
Thanks again, - JBroey3 :cool:
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Oh and I did post this originally in the Other forum, but no attention was paid to it :D :( :confused: :p
Thanks again Guys :)