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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: Modas on March 05, 2002, 09:56:19 PM
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Ok
I know there have been about 14 trillion posts on dumping to desktop on these boards, and i've read a good number of them and tried a great deal of things that have been suggested.
Since the 1.08 patch, I am having a TREMENDOUS problem with AH dumping to desktop. :mad: Tonight I tried to fly, had 4 takeoffs, 1 sucessfull flight, and 3 dumps to desktop. I no longer do buff runs as i hate climbing for 25 minutes only to get dumped just before target. Quite frankly, I'm almost to the point the I want to quit AH entirely. I love the game so much tho, I can't quite bring myself to cancel my account. But I'm getting damn close :(
I have tried reinstalling windows, AH, formating HD and completely starting over. I don't know what else to do. I am attaching a complete system spec (courtesty of EA and MOHAA help ) in hopes someone out there will see something that I'm not. If there is additional information that might be needed, but not included, let me know and I'll post ASAP.
As always, I appreciate any help that I can get.
Modas
8=X Cutthroats
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Ya forgot something...
How about posting your dxdiag info...
SKurj
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Dump to desktop problems almost ALWAYS are either resource conflict or driver issues.
If you post your system details, OS version, DX version, and driver versions, we can give you a place to start. IRQ allocation info would help as well. (Start | Run and type "msinfo32")
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Apparently my attachment with system information didn't take on the original post. As I am replying from work, I'll have to try to repost the system information that is missing from my original message tonight
I'll have to try to put an attachment on again.
Modas
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ok, think I figgered out what happened to the attachment to my original post. Previewing the message requires (or seem to require) reattaching the attachment to the post. All system information will be posted tonight.
I appreciate the help!!
Modas
8=X cutthroats
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ok attached is my system info. if there is anything else needed please holler. I appreciate the help gents!!
Modas
8=X cutthroats
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not sure how to attach multiple files to the same email so here is attachement number 2
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final file. Resource information
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Its late but I took a brief look Modas
Those GeForce drivers are older than....
Try updating them
SKurj
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I know there are more up to date drivers out there. I get video lockups with other drivers, especially with the 21.83. The 6.31 drivers seem to work the best for me. My card is pretty old and I figured my lock ups were due to the new drivers on a older card. Is this an incorrect assumption?
Modas
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Hmm yes possibly
Have you tried 23.11's?
Other than that Modas I don't know what to tell you...
In reading the dxdiag, I noticed this...
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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 2/5 (retail)
Reducing the debug level above may help if you encounter any issues sound related. To do this though you need the DirectX control Applet..
http://www.savelkoulskuylen.demon.nl/files/directx.cpl
SKurj
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In addition, your GeForce is sharing IRQ with your network card. That is NOT good. You need to resolve that right away. The way to do that is to move what slot your network card is in, which looks like the first PCI slot under your AGP card. You'll need to dig out the manual for your mainboard and figure out which PCI slots share IRQ's with other devices, then put your Ethernet card in a slot where it won't be sharing interrupts. By the look of the number of devices you have in there, you probably won't resolve all the conflicts/sharing, but you need to make certain that your video and sound are on their own IRQs.
Your USB is sharing with your modem as well, which is not as big a deal depending on how you are connecting to AH. Are you using broadband (network card) or using your modem to dial up AH?
Now as for nVidia driver versions, for that card on Win98 I would try the 7.78's, I have had good luck with those for TnT/GeForce level cards. If that doesn't work, give the 14.10's a shot. The later model drivers seem to only work well with GeForce 2 or later cards in my experience, so the problems you are having with the 2x.xx line of Detonators is not unexpected.
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Originally posted by SKurj
Hmm yes possibly
Have you tried 23.11's?
Other than that Modas I don't know what to tell you...
In reading the dxdiag, I noticed this...
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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 2/5 (retail)
Reducing the debug level above may help if you encounter any issues sound related. To do this though you need the DirectX control Applet..
http://www.savelkoulskuylen.demon.nl/files/directx.cpl
SKurj
This is all pretty new to me. I didn't know this stuff even existed. What exactly is the debug levels and what is it telling me? I'll definitely check out the link you posted. Thanks!
Modas
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Originally posted by Lephturn
In addition, your GeForce is sharing IRQ with your network card. That is NOT good. You need to resolve that right away. The way to do that is to move what slot your network card is in, which looks like the first PCI slot under your AGP card. You'll need to dig out the manual for your mainboard and figure out which PCI slots share IRQ's with other devices, then put your Ethernet card in a slot where it won't be sharing interrupts. By the look of the number of devices you have in there, you probably won't resolve all the conflicts/sharing, but you need to make certain that your video and sound are on their own IRQs.
Your USB is sharing with your modem as well, which is not as big a deal depending on how you are connecting to AH. Are you using broadband (network card) or using your modem to dial up AH?
Now as for nVidia driver versions, for that card on Win98 I would try the 7.78's, I have had good luck with those for TnT/GeForce level cards. If that doesn't work, give the 14.10's a shot. The later model drivers seem to only work well with GeForce 2 or later cards in my experience, so the problems you are having with the 2x.xx line of Detonators is not unexpected.
I'm connecting to AH thru dial up modem. I think windows automatically assigns IRQ's and interupts. Is this correct? I know I can remove the TM gamecard so maybe that will help clear up some IRQ's. That's "good" news about the video drivers tho. At least I'm not loosing my mind with the more advanced version drivers.
It looks like I've got some work to do here. I'll start tonight and report back. Thanks for the help!! I really appreciate it.
Modas
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Originally posted by Modas
I'm connecting to AH thru dial up modem. I think windows automatically assigns IRQ's and interupts. Is this correct? I know I can remove the TM gamecard so maybe that will help clear up some IRQ's. That's "good" news about the video drivers tho. At least I'm not loosing my mind with the more advanced version drivers.
It looks like I've got some work to do here. I'll start tonight and report back. Thanks for the help!! I really appreciate it.
Modas
dedicated game cards like the CH Gamecard 3 or TM ACM don't use any IRQ's so removing your TM ACM card won't free up any IRQ's, just resources.
ack-ack
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From what I have picked up over the net, the debug level in your directsound is something left over from the development cycle, and may just simply casue sound to use a few more resources.
Perhaps someone else can shed more detail on this...
SKurj
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Originally posted by SKurj
Hmm yes possibly
Have you tried 23.11's?
Other than that Modas I don't know what to tell you...
In reading the dxdiag, I noticed this...
--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 2/5 (retail)
Reducing the debug level above may help if you encounter any issues sound related. To do this though you need the DirectX control Applet..
http://www.savelkoulskuylen.demon.nl/files/directx.cpl
SKurj
Skurj -
I got the file :-). How do I use it? hhehehehe. I'm just a dumb mechanical engineer, I don't know nothin' about computers
Modas
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Originally posted by Lephturn
In addition, your GeForce is sharing IRQ with your network card. That is NOT good. You need to resolve that right away. The way to do that is to move what slot your network card is in, which looks like the first PCI slot under your AGP card. You'll need to dig out the manual for your mainboard and figure out which PCI slots share IRQ's with other devices, then put your Ethernet card in a slot where it won't be sharing interrupts. By the look of the number of devices you have in there, you probably won't resolve all the conflicts/sharing, but you need to make certain that your video and sound are on their own IRQs.
Your USB is sharing with your modem as well, which is not as big a deal depending on how you are connecting to AH. Are you using broadband (network card) or using your modem to dial up AH?
Now as for nVidia driver versions, for that card on Win98 I would try the 7.78's, I have had good luck with those for TnT/GeForce level cards. If that doesn't work, give the 14.10's a shot. The later model drivers seem to only work well with GeForce 2 or later cards in my experience, so the problems you are having with the 2x.xx line of Detonators is not unexpected.
I've rearranged some things and got the major componets (sound and video)on their own IRQ with the exception of some IRQ holder for PCI Steering (whatever that is). The USB and modem still are on the same IRQ. I was able to free up IRQ's 4 and 9. Is there a way to "force" either the USB or the modem to use one of these IRQ's?
I did fly offline and was able to fly without dumping, so hopefully the problem is fixed. I would like to get the USB on its own IRQ if at all possible. Any suggestions on how to do this? I tried moving the modem to a different PCI slot like I did w/ the network card, but no luck.
Thanks for the help :D
Modas
8=X