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Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: Yeager on March 05, 2002, 11:45:15 PM: Then executed?

The soldier who fell out the back of chinook (after having been hit by RPG) was said to have survived the fall only to be captured then shot to death by enemy forces.

Has anyone else heard this? My source was evening news, brokaw I think.
Title: Well, CNN is reporting the same story.....
Post by: Toad on March 06, 2002, 12:10:17 AM: "WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Soon after a U.S. helicopter was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade Monday, a Navy SEAL fell from the Chinook and was dragged away by three al Qaeda fighters and executed.

It was a horrifying scene that transpired as his commanders watched in agony the images beamed back from a reconnaissance plane, U.S. officials said Tuesday."
Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: Sandman on March 06, 2002, 12:20:28 AM: Not to make light of this, but what did you expect? Milk and cookies?
Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: funkedup on March 06, 2002, 12:32:13 AM: Humans Vs. Klingons. What did you expect?
Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: Toad on March 06, 2002, 12:46:00 AM: I never expected them to take prisoners.

I'll also wager that we don't take quite as many as we could after this incident makes the rounds of the troops in contact

That's the way it has started out in so many conflicts; what would be different now?
Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: Karnak on March 06, 2002, 01:28:28 AM: That's the kind of thing that started it between the Russians and Afgans when Russia was in there.

Fortunately for the Afgans we are typically more restrained when it comes to recipricating. They'll have to push on us harder than they pushed on the Russians before we start violating our principals, at least I hope so.

Our system is less accepting of barbaric responses to this sort of provocation than the Soviet system was.

I feel badly for our soldier's family and for his comrades. I appriciate that he was willing to place himself on the line for his country and I hope our national reslove does not waver due to these recent casualties.

If it does, I'll start fearing that our nation has lost its backbone.
Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: easymo on March 06, 2002, 02:01:09 AM: It is a tragic fact that in the past POW's have accidently fallen out of US choppers. Who knows. It might start happening over there.
Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: Dawvgrid on March 06, 2002, 02:19:50 AM: Fortunately for the Afgans we are typically more restrained when it comes to recipricating. They'll have to push on us harder than they pushed on the Russians before we start violating our principals, at least I hope so. by Karnak
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Thats the official version,,im afraid.

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Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: babek- on March 06, 2002, 03:25:36 AM: The parallels between the Soviet occupation and today are shocking.

First there is a overwhelming and fast victory.

Then a new government in Kabul is installed.

Then more and more news reach us that only the cities are secure and in the land the clans are fighting each other.

Then it comes clear that the puppet regime in Kabul will not survive 12 hours without the help of the superpower.

And then suddenly the fighting increases and the losses raise.

I fear that the war in Afghanistan will not be finished in a few months or even years and that more negative news about losses of european and US forces will appear.
Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: Vulcan on March 06, 2002, 03:48:23 AM: You'll find it rare for any 'special' unit from any country to take prisoners - its not how they operate.

I know someone who was in the NZ SAS and served in vietnam, he said the rarely took prisoners, as they used SLR's (308s) and unlike the puny US M-16's 1 hit from an SLR always resulted in a fatal wound.
Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: GRUNHERZ on March 06, 2002, 05:02:53 AM: What???

They didn't provide him with a culturally appropriate meal??

Yep pretty barbaric, but I hear we killed several hundred of the bastards in a single action against a large formation soon after, so maybe we got some revenge there.
Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: CyranoAH on March 06, 2002, 05:24:20 AM: Funked, in Star Trek Klingons value honor above all... I'd say something like Cardassians :(

Daniel
Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: Eagler on March 06, 2002, 06:54:24 AM: I heard the other 6 or 7 died trying to go back and get their dead buddy. Sounds like they were waiting for the chopper to return.

Also heard they have their families holed up with them. Freakin savages. We are tryin to fight a civilized war against savages. We have to play by the rules while they don't or WE are the bad guys :rolleyes:

Kill them all and let Allah sort em out. By ANY means necessary..
Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: Dawvgrid on March 06, 2002, 06:59:29 AM: I don`t consider war very civilized,,,its the uncivilized thing to do,when civilized communications fails.,,,,,,,,,let the guns speak.
Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: babek- on March 06, 2002, 08:09:10 AM: Quote
Originally posted by CyranoAH
Funked, in Star Trek Klingons value honor above all... I'd say something like Cardassians :(

Daniel

They are more like JemHadar-warriors. Absolutely brainless fanaticals and ready to make suicide operations only to take some others with them.
Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: miko2d on March 06, 2002, 10:07:45 AM: Quote
Originally posted by babek-
The parallels between the Soviet occupation and today are shocking.
First there is a overwhelming and fast victory....
And then suddenly the fighting increases and the losses raise....

Two major differences as I see it:
1. There is no superpower supporting them.
2. The surveilance/tracking equipment we have now is way more advanced then what soviets had 20 years ago. I bet that that's where a lot of research will go in the future too.

How much difference it makes remains to be seen.

miko
Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: JV44 on March 06, 2002, 10:23:56 AM: There is only one way to end quick....

1. Feed the poeple fat (fat poeple do not like to fight)

I mean, give them some civilisation advances like food, tv and radio and some cars and they are pleased....

Is not?

Maybe I play to much civilisation 3 the last weeks.... :D

But its really so, give the poeple some things to loose and they will think twice before go to war....

JV44
Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: Krusher on March 07, 2002, 01:27:34 PM: where are the Euros that screamed about our abuse of the prisoners at guantanamo now?
Title: US Soldier captured?
Post by: Yeager on March 07, 2002, 01:34:54 PM: Doing what euros do best