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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Mino on March 06, 2002, 03:03:32 AM
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How do you get these to work?
Thanks in advance.
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What hardware do you have?
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Originally posted by Mino
How do you get these to work?
Thanks in advance.
The only pedals I know of that have toe-brake support are are both the analog and USB versions of the CH Pro Pedals. Only problem is that the analog version of the Pro Pedals will require another active game port in order to use the two additional axis needed for toe brakes. Yet another problem with the analog version in regards to toe brakes is that even if you do have a seperate active game port, you will be unable to calibrate the toe brake axis in Windows because of a lack of a button to set calibration. You could jerry rig a button on the analog Pro Pedals so you can calibrate them but you have to know what you are doing. The other option are the USB Pro Pedals and configuring those axis should be a snap and without any of the problems associated with the analog Pro Pedals in respect to toe brakes.
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I have CHProducts USB Pro Peddles
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I've got mine set up as the x & y axis' and the rudder action as a Z axis. I'm using the CH Controller software. Donno if you can do it without that.
Then in AH setup just map the appropriate controls to those axis' on the pedals.
D
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I've got mine setup without the Controller software, just AH setup, and they work fine.:)
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I usem Mino
Ch Pro peds USB
I just map the X and Y axis of the pedals to the brakes in the joystick selection screen.
SKurj
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Thanks for all the help but...
Sigh, I am totally brain dead on this one.
If I map the brake peddls to x and y axis, which is what I have mapped for my joystick, then the brake trace line moves with the joystick. Nothing moves when I use the brake peddles...
Thanks again.
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Under the joystick setup screen, select in the left window "rudder", middle window "CH pro pedals" and in the right window "z axis", apply. Repeat this for left brake using the x axis and right brake for the y axis. This is how I have mine set up, post again if this doesn't help.:)
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SUCCESS!
Until today the AH Joystick Config never displayed the 3 devices, it only displayed "CH Control Manager" or some such.
I downloaded v123 Control Manager yesterday and Heavens to Mergatroid I now get all 3 controler lines in the Joystick Config screen.
To all thanks again!
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I used the template that FunkedUp gave me to program all my CH gear, and he had the toe brakes setup. I found this VERY frustrating, you have to press each brake with exactly the same pressure when you're landing or else you'll spin out. I have since removed that mapping and keyed my wheel brakes to the space bar, where both brakes apply evenly at the same time. It sure is nice to actually LAND the plane instead of crashing somewhere on the runway!
CheezHed {Shillelagh}
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Heh Cheez I can understand what you are saying...
BUT!! I find the pedals help when landing hogs as they like to spin. And I use the brakes alot when taxiing to and from rearm
I'd like to usem for the tracks on the armored vehicles too...
SKurj
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Originally posted by CheeseHead
I used the template that FunkedUp gave me to program all my CH gear, and he had the toe brakes setup. I found this VERY frustrating, you have to press each brake with exactly the same pressure when you're landing or else you'll spin out. I have since removed that mapping and keyed my wheel brakes to the space bar, where both brakes apply evenly at the same time. It sure is nice to actually LAND the plane instead of crashing somewhere on the runway!
CheezHed {Shillelagh}
Have you tried it with the 1.09 update? It seems that toe brakes were either FULL ON or FULL OFF before 1.09. I had come to the same conclusion and done the same thing. :) But now they're actually progressive, so you can ease into them.
The prob before was that if you hit one a microsecond before the other, it went to full lock before the other one did. Shazam! Groundloop most of the time. :)
I LOVE 'em now. It's WAY easier to get yourself stopped during a hot landing. Nice to save those engine out perk plane disasters. :)
D
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Hmm i never had the on/off problem...
I don't use control manager, that maybe the difference.. they've always been progressive for me.
SKurj
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From the 1.09 readme:
Wheel brakes now ramp up in effect as you apply them.
D
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From the 1.09 readme:
Wheel brakes now ramp up in effect as you apply them.
This is referring to the space bar. Before if you hit the space bar it would apply fulll brakes. Now it will ramp brake pressure up the longer you hold the space bar down.
Progressive brakes have always worked for me in AH, using CH control manager or not.
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Yup Starbird is correct, I asked HT himself if anything had changed as far as pedal toe brakes were concerned and his reply was no.
And yeah they work the same they always have +)
SKurj
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Mino,
If you using 2 USB devices, one being the CH Pedals Pro, you should see both those devices in AH joystick setup. Make sure you select the X- and Y-axis of the second device (CH Pedals) and not the X- and Y-axis of the joystick to assign for brakes.
I use USB CH Pedals Pro and the toe barkes work fine.
Apar
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The problem turned out to be the CH Products Control Panel.
If I ran Control Panel, then it would lump all the CH Devices together and Windows nor AH would recognize my peddles. All the CH devices got bunched together under one device name.
Now, I do not run Control Panel and have programed all of my joystick buttons via the AH Stickmapping utility. This allows me to get all three devices in Windows and in AH, not just the one.
Thanks again!
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Originally posted by Mino
The problem turned out to be the CH Products Control Panel.
If I ran Control Panel, then it would lump all the CH Devices together and Windows nor AH would recognize my peddles. All the CH devices got bunched together under one device name.
Now, I do not run Control Panel and have programed all of my joystick buttons via the AH Stickmapping utility. This allows me to get all three devices in Windows and in AH, not just the one.
Thanks again!
Actually, you can set up your sticks as 3 seperate devices in the CH Control Panel. It's not incredibly intuative, but it gives you ALOT more options than just using the AH stickmapping.
For the main movement axis' on each stick, you probably had them all set as "Joystick 1" in the DX Device selection box. Set them up each as a different stick.
The only prob I have with this is that they don't actually show by name in the AH Stick setup. The show as CH Product controller 1, CH Product Controller 2, and 3. NOt hard to figure out which is which tho.
D
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For AH I don't use the CH Control Panel at all. AH sees all three devices, all three axes on each device, and all the buttons without any help from CH.
The only thing I haven't got working is view pitch/yaw. It's set up on the X/Y axis of my throttle (USB Pro) but doesn't seem to do anything.
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I have the x35/x36 USB combo with CH Pro USB with RangerBob's special patch file. I had the toebrakes working for a few weeks but they suddenly stopped. I've tried a dozen things to get it back, and am now thinking the toebrakes just may be physically broken.
So I know it can be done. Good luck to you.