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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Wanker on March 06, 2002, 11:36:55 AM
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Once 1.09 is out the door, I think HTC will be focusing on smaller development cycles for awhile. I applaud them for that, as we need more planes to open up opportunities for Special Events and for the CT.
While I know that everyone likes the fast, sexy rides like the Spitfire, P-51, 190D-9, etc.... I would personally like to see some attention on the more "unglamorous" planes. While these planes would have very limited use in the MA, their introduction would open up many more possibilities for the CT and the Special Events.
I'm talking about Dive bombers, Torpedo bombers and level bombers.
Needed for Pacific theater: SBD, Helldiver, Val, Judy, Kate, Jill, B-25C, B-25H.
Needed for BoB: Stuka, HE111, Blenheim
Needed for Eastern Front: Stuka, TU-2, PE-2
To get these planes into action in AH, it would take the better part of three releases. But IMO, their time has come. These planes are needed if we're going to be able to expand our horizons when it comes to the TOD's and Scenarios. I'm sure the CT guys would also agree with me.
If we don't get these planes, we'll have to keep on using substitutions like the TBM for the Kate, which just makes me shudder. No matter how much I use my imagination, there's no way I can look at a TBM and think of it as a Kate.
Pyro always told me that when someone asks for something from them, they better have a logical argument. Hopefully my arguments above are logical enough to get them to start producing these planes.
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I fully agree.
I wonder if there are facets to these planes which might help them out in the MA?; some advantage their dedicated role would give them?
What sighting systems did they employ for dive bombing, and is that an avenue to pursue? Dive brakes? The Stukas glass floor?
It's true that the Stuka would be vulnerable in hostile air, but it's accuracy should some how be represented.
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Beaufighter
SKurj
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F4F, P-39, P-40
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Heh dunno what else but all I thought the Stuka used to help in aiming was a dive indicator to one side of the pilot. It may have been just drawn on the canopy i don't recall.
It just showed the pilot the correct dive angle (just an angle type shape I believe)
SKurj
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I agree with banana...
But my agreement may only detract from your cause in the eyes of Hitech Creations, Inc. ( :p Pyro)
I do believe its the way they are headed, and already planned for it. The CT is already a modest success, and with more planes and war periods modelled, it will improve tenfold, but that depends on the players who took the task of managing that arena.
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The most difficult theater to do in the CT right now is definitely the PTO. Getting some more Japanese a/c and some early US birds would definitely help out. The P-40 would be a big plus, as it was used in every theater of war. If I could only have one plane to help out the CT, that would be it, followed by the Japanese carrier planes, the Wildcat, and the Dauntless.
Sabre
CT Team
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I cant believe Camo hasnt added his views on the Brewster yet......
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I have said before and I will say it again, I want them all and I want them now...
ALL OF THEM.
If it flew with a man on board, I want it in the game. Okay, so the Wright Flyer or the Cessna 152 don't exactly have a lot of MA appeal. I bet you could still get kills in those birds making people overshoot or crash into the ground trying to hang with you while flying low and evasive :)
I have seen requests for the Me-163... that's like the lowest end rocket plane you could ask for. I am thinking more like an X-15. It has no armament, but at Mach 6+ almost in orbit, somehow the war doesn't seem so significant. Besides, you will scare the crap out of any planes you buzz on the way up. Extra benefit: having the X-15 means you need the B-52 as well. Who wants a B-29 when you can carpet bomb the entire MA in a single pass at 500 mph?
HTC is way behind my personal wants and needs ;)
If I order AH on CD, does it come with a free woman? Now that would be a deal :D
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PZL p11c
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I agree entirely.
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If you would have posted this in the Aircraft and Vehicles forum, we would have heard from the "WE NEED TO EQUALIZE THE NATIONAL REPRESENTATION" crew, and thier demands for a German Heavy Buff, or an Italian Torpedo plane, or a Bohemian transport, Transylvanian amphib ect ect.
Personally, I'd agree that we should add more planes from the PTO, and the early PTO specifically. So much of the pacific was fought with the F4F, P-40, P-39. without them we have no New Guinie, 1st Guadalcanal, no Midway, no Coral Sea... you get the picture.
I once tried to get a better feel for why people wanted certain planes. I hoped to maybe come up with some sort of accepted standard. But instead I just concluded that people want planes because "damnit I just want it" and choose rationales that fit their desires. Nothing at all wrong with that I suppose.
-Sikboy
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I'm all hope that HTC will be the very first online sim to introduce the He-111.
BoB scenario will be absolutely stunning if we have it :)
Snorkey
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Originally posted by banana
I know that everyone likes the fast, sexy rides like the Spitfire, P-51, 190D-9, etc.... I would personally like to see some attention on the more "unglamorous" planes. While these planes would have very limited use in the MA, their introduction would open up many more possibilities for the CT and the Special Events.
spitfire fast? or did we get the spit 14 hmm ;)
But I do agree with banana. That is after we get the spit 14 :D
Moto_MOL
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I aggree, once we have the Bearcat, P47M,Ki84,Spit XIV, B29,He177 and maby the Mig 15Bis and F86F40 we should do some eary war stuff...
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Bohemian transport, Transylvanian amphib
ROFLMAO, made my day!
NICE LIST banana!
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"B25H" OH Boy!! I can hear the whines now:
"Pyro, my 190 got hit by 5, 75mm rounds from a B25 today. EVERYONE knows that in WW2 a 190 could take 10-20 75mm hits."
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LOL beef! I agree banana 100%. P40, P39, F4F, Stuka, He111, Kate, B25, Jill, Judy...
along with the Pam, joyce, liz, hellen, barb, janet, olga, helga, oh and dont forget Jenny... 8-6-7-5-3-0-niiieeeiiiiine...!
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Originally posted by banana
I'm talking about Dive bombers, Torpedo bombers and level bombers.
Needed for Pacific theater: SBD, Helldiver, Val, Judy, Kate, Jill, B-25C, B-25H.
Nice list, but you forget Beaufighter, Buffalo and BOOMERANG! How many times must I stress the importance of this!
:)
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Fast? Spitfire? Same sentence?
banana, you must know something I don't because the Spitfires we have in AH certainly aren't fast.
There were fast Spitfires that were the contemporaries of most of the aircraft in the AH set, but we only have Spits from the first half of the war.
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banana, you must know something I don't
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along with the Pam, joyce, liz, hellen, barb, janet, olga, helga, oh and dont forget Jenny... 8-6-7-5-3-0-niiieeeiiiiine...!
LOL Oct, that's too funny. You know a lot about music from the 80's for being such a young pup!
The only reason I didn't list more aircraft like the Beaufighter, Boomerang(lol), etc... is because the aircraft I listed above are just the foundation we'd need to move forward with the scenarios. And I left out fighter aircraft because I know those will come without having to beg for them. :)
I'm still trying to get Pyro to build an H8K2 Emily for us. That thing could bomb, torpedo and carry 64 troops! And it has 20mm defensive guns, tough armor plating.....could be the only perk floatplane you'd see in AH!
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V-1 Buzz bombs to destroy cities from afar :)
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Schmetterling and Wasserfall Surface to Air Missile sites for Strat. Target and HQ protection...
and of course an Avia B.534 :D
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Boomerang(lol)
No laughing!
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I don't think it's reasonable to intruduce all of any one type or nationality of aircraft in a release. AH is made up of lots of folks, the majority of whom just want to furball in their favourity fighter I believe. Any release that doesn't include at least a couple of new fighters wouldn't make sense if you think about it.
HTC has always had a really nice balanced approach to releasing new planes, and I don't expect that to change.
That said... I'd love the P-40, it's probably my most wanted ride at the moment. The P-47-M/N needs to be the next perk. A couple bomber type craft would be nice mixed in... :)
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I think that most people are aware of HTC's strategy when it comes to releasing new airplanes. Problem is that all those people just keep on rumbling because they are ALL just chronic dreamers! :D
Well guys keep on dreaming....
And HTC - gimme that B.534, P-61, Buffalo, Stuka, Me-410, Beaufighter, ........ :D