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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Gaspode on March 07, 2002, 12:03:53 PM
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I am having trouble in bringing my guns to bear smoothly in AH and seeking some suggestions and or comments.
Being new to AH but an X AW'er this isn't (I don't think) an issue with ACM now that I have a feel for the flight profiles, I can get into position and go to draw my guns through the correct arc and the plane seems to bounce up and down rather than be able to pull a smooth gun curve.
So far I have done all the usual calibration, reduced sensitivity in the lower movement area curved up to maximum sensitivity with largest deflection.
I must admit that I am not to happy with the way the Logitech Force 3D motors pick up resistance so I have also reduced effects to a very low level to avoid any possible uneven movement as I apply movement to the stick.
Is there any INI setting or trim or ...well about anything people can suggest ?
At this point I would gladly by a new stick if thats the central issue )
Thanks much
Gaspode / Root
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You might want to try flattening your scaling out a bit and instead increasing the damping slider somewhat.
Also, how is your joystick connected? Many folks are having better smoother control with USB connected sticks.
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Originally posted by Gaspode
I am having trouble in bringing my guns to bear smoothly in AH and seeking some suggestions and or comments.
Being new to AH but an X AW'er this isn't (I don't think) an issue with ACM now that I have a feel for the flight profiles, I can get into position and go to draw my guns through the correct arc and the plane seems to bounce up and down rather than be able to pull a smooth gun curve.
So far I have done all the usual calibration, reduced sensitivity in the lower movement area curved up to maximum sensitivity with largest deflection.
I must admit that I am not to happy with the way the Logitech Force 3D motors pick up resistance so I have also reduced effects to a very low level to avoid any possible uneven movement as I apply movement to the stick.
Is there any INI setting or trim or ...well about anything people can suggest ?
At this point I would gladly by a new stick if thats the central issue )
Thanks much
Gaspode / Root
try this stick scale (http://www.hispanicvista.com/assets/stickscale.zip). Just unzip the file into your HTC\Aces High\Settings folder.
(http://www.hispanicvista.com/assets/479th_shield.jpg)
Ack-Ack
479th FG - Riddle's Raiders
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This site doesn't exist.
I'm curious about the site bouncing issue, as I'm having it as well.
Any chance of a repost?
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This site doesn't exist.
I'm curious about the site bouncing issue, as I'm having it as well.
Any chance of a repost?
Look for AKAK's stick scale under my stuff... http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/files/
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Look for AKAK's stick scale under my stuff... http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/files/
Just a heads up Murdr.
That file is from the previous AH versions (.cfg). Perhaps a newer updated .jsm version might make things a little easier for the new recruits?
:aok
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could be your joystick! using me as an example.......when I first started I used the saitek 290 pro I think it was called, and I often had that issue. When I switch to a more expensive joystick I never noticed it again, everything was a little smoother.
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I absolutely endorse akak's stick scaling posted in this thread. It's super groovy :rock I have a logitech 3D pro and it put me back in the killing business after much frustration.
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How do I use the .cfg file i cant seem to figure it out.
thanks,
Sifu
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How do I use the .cfg file i cant seem to figure it out.
Me too
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:) For the correct answer to ur questions, look under the heading of this"Help and
Training", 'Preferred Deadband and sensitivity settings', article by myself :salute
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How do I use the .cfg file i cant seem to figure it out.
thanks,
Sifu
Sorry, you don't use the .cfg, it's obsolete. Use the screenshots and match your relative slider positions to them.
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Gaspode, I have the same stick and get the same bounce you do from time to time. When I recalibrate joystick, it seems to take away bounce for awhile. I have also increased my deadband and dampening some in the advanced section of the joystick setup options
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Just so ya'll understand;
Deadband is normally used to allow older sticks with dirty or worn pots (potentionmeters) to get past a spike. Spikes look like
a seismograph (Richter earthquake scale)in the setup mod (blue screen) when you move the stick. You slide up the dead band until the spiking stops. If you're using a new stick you don't need to touch it.
Damping delays the input of the stick in milliseconds. It allows you to adjust just how fast (sensitivity of the stick) the inputs went to the control surfaces when you touched the stick. It also became a defense against stick stirring. People complained that when they saddle up all the guy in front of them had to do was stir his stick rapidly and they'd never get a shot. If you ever saw the message "don't move your controls so rapidly" then have your stick lock up for 5-10 seconds that's a response from the game to stick stirring.
Everyones stick is a little different and here's why you'd slide the damper up a little bit at a time.
1) you take a ping and yank the stick in response to the unplanned attack and get the lock up and message. You may need to slide all 3 axis' up a bit.
2) you dive your plane and barely touch the stick and you black out. Slide the pitch damper up a bit. The slight delay will allow you to ease the stick back and prevent black out.
Hope this helps
Ren
(http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss316/ren1795/clinte1vg1.gif)
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Sorry, you don't use the .cfg, it's obsolete. Use the screenshots and match your relative slider positions to them.
Not entirely true actually (do I dare disagree with Murdr? :D).
You can open the .cfg file in notepad and copy-paste the axes scaling into your current .jsm file (also in notepad).
Just keep in mind that in the old .cfg the three scales are for your x,y and z axes (since AH1 stick scaling was common to all modes), where as in the .jsm, there are four scales per axis (one per each mode).
In the .cfg in question all three axes are the same anyways so you can copy paste one line into pretty much all 12 scale lines in you .jsm file (don't copy paste to your throttle axis).
As for dead band and damping, I'm afraid you'll just have to use the screen shots.
Hope this helps :aok