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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: terracota on July 04, 2000, 04:08:00 PM
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just asking my self if the veteran pilots feels that too or if they feeled some day in they newbies days:
1)when I have an enemy at my six I dont get nervous(well just a little), and generally I can think in the things I readed in books , etc. about evasive maneuvers.
2) but when I'm behind the bandit or I have the E advantage all my body starts to shake my hands dont whant to respond,I can hear my heart pumping like an m-16 and I forget everything i learned in the books etc. about attacking maneuvers E, etc.
somebody nows if there's an explanation to these? just feel nervous when I have the advantage. some other newbie there feels the same or is just me?
3) you veteran pilots feel some nervous now ?
or you dont feel nothing now?
just whant to now (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
see ya!
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Sounds like buck fever to me, I get it too. Especialy in 1v1 or 2v2 duels or in senarios, when the outcome is important or in deer hunting (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)
udie
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I get it in scenarios, especially ones without 5 mile IFF and laser range finder HUD. When you've been patrolling for a half-hour and suddenly THERE THEY ARE KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMMMMMMMM!!!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
[This message has been edited by funked (edited 07-04-2000).]
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Hehe yeah terracota, I get this too on occasion. Generally, the more I want the kill, the more this happens. In the MA this hardly ever happens as, well, I don't really give a damn as much as I probably should. Couldn't care less if I live or die lately... and I've got to work on that.
I can remember times in scenarios though where I've had to bring my left hand over to steady my right hand in order to line up the shot.
I can't wait for these events to kick into gear, as this 'buck fever' phenomenom is part of what I think 'real' combat would feel like... and to me it's 100 times more powerful than any fight I've had in the MA.
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Terracota, as they explained, the more u want the kill, the more you shake. But usually I'm not freacking out. When u know that you have a plane who turns about same or better, then no need to sweat, the guy can't out turn you. So seat back, relax, follow him, let him sweat and do something silly, you will got him sooner or later, take your time.
Don't go on hard abrupt manoeuvering to follow him, work on keeping your E, especially if it's a G10 vs Niki or something. you will notice that most guys do scisors, I could catch up with faster planes even in Niki by flight straight and level while my target was slaloming in front of me always crossing my gun seight (then lossing E, thus speed).
Go easy on ammos too, don't spray like crazy when he is barrel rolling all other. Again, relax, follow, wait for him to cross ur gun seight and throw a short burst. When I started AH, I was always in a good firing position when i had no ammo, and that makes u feel mad at yourself.
[This message has been edited by SFRT - Frenchy (edited 07-04-2000).]
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(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) well I'm not alone withs this ufffffff
yeah ! and thak's to the advice, the other day I was just behind an 109, I started to shake and shoted him all my bullets (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) finally I killed him but just 26 bullets left in my plane, so I leave the battle and go home (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I have to learn to control my fire, buck fever? well now I now how this fenomenon is called
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I get that when ever i approach a B17, and when ever I have a bish f4u bellow me..
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Haven't had it for a while, but I used to always get it, when I had a seemingly clean (and unseen) bounce on a bogey.
I would simply hold my breath, all the way from d50 and in, hand would tighten around the joystick, etc...was horrible.
I still get it (in WB) when I'm on a streak over 30.
Daff
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CO, 56th Fighter Group
"This is Yardstick. Follow me"
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Nope. Never get it anymore. Nothing bothers be at all. Ground rushing up at me without wings? Calmly slide cockpit open and toss myself to the earth, while feeling the wind in my hair. <Yawn>
Just another day in the office while in combat.
This is in contrast to my reaction when the whining suddenly erupts on channel 1. The hair IMMEDIATELY stands up on the back of my neck, my fists are clenched tight, a twitch develops on my left eye while beads of cold sweat emanate from my forehead. Its Xanax time, baby! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
-Ding
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Dueling ladder is where the adrenline flows like hot molten lava thru your bloodstream, my wifes gonna find me slumped over the keyboard one of these days!
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terracota,
I get this every single time. Mostly, because I get in real close for the kill, 100-200yds. Sometimes, it's almost a relief when the con breaks. The surprise kills are the most racking, because they just sit there. You get closer and closer, and they just sit, flying straight and true. Pretty soon, you start wondering if they have something up their sleeve, and start looking around to that hidden wingman. Simply nerve racking, the surprise kill.
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Wow...
Leonid, Daff.
That's exactly when it happens to me... the suprise kill...
"Why the f*ck aint they moving?! Oh... this is good... this is rare... this is PERFECT..." Heart-rate picks up, hand starts to tremble, plane starts to bounce, a hail of fire whizzes' over the bandit's canopy... an overshoot... and no damage done.
Sigh...
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I agree. Fear of the unknown is the scary part.
Since I die so often, I know exactly what it is like- Voila! No fear! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Actually, I am more "did I stop that guy from accomplishing his goal" than "can I kill him. It does no good to kill the B17 after it drops on your base. That is the nervous part for me.
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Yup!...I get it. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Flying online comes as quite the shock to us when we first start. We come out from the "boxed sim" training school feeling like real hot shots...even the most humble of us! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Unfortunately, online, we get shot down over and over and over again, and this can really down one's spirits initially. So...the gears start grinding, we try to learn as much as we can about air combat, and practice hard to learn ACM. Time passes...finally that moment of truth...you've done everything right: conserved energy, and put yourself in the perfect position. Now you're zooming in on his six...closer...closer...will he see you?...closer still...finally!, you open up, rake him over with cannon shells, and zoom up looking behind you. He's trailing smoke, and goes down. This is what you've been working for!
In the online combat environment, each "kill" comes from putting in time and practice. I think that the nervousness comes from exactly this...getting ready to see the fruits of your labor. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I think it's neat that a sim can bring this out of us. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Salute,
IC
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If you recognize you are stressed first take a deep breath. Then relax the stick hand.
If your hand is shakeing WTG!!!
This is like rem sleep.Enjoy ,its a feeling i only feel fighting a few guys.
IMO this is the best feeling in AH.
If you care enough that your stressed it means you imersed in the game!In the present.
It means your haveing fun.
Learn to control it but never lose it.
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Main seldom brings that level of intensity out for me. H2H will always raise it the first few sorties when I'm really unsure of the outcome. If he's pasting me, np, If I'm pasting him, np.
Its the suspense that gets ya.That and fights that spiral from 10k down to the deck, twisting turning, swapping advantage back and forth. Snapshots rattling like hail on your cockpit sending spears of fear through your veins.
2 or 3 of those & I'm ready for a hot shower & a long cold drink. Worn out body & soul.
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Oh yeah I also get it when dueling DMF. Actually I told him I will never duel him again because it will kill me.
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I hear ya, Ghosth. Had a fight just like that this morning while flying with you. It was that Yak that showed up. Fight went from 12k(?) to the deck, ending up in flat scissors. When I put that last burst into him, we were so close I thought it was going to be a collision, for sure. Once he went into the ground I took a quick, nervous look around for bandits, then rtb'ed on the deck. By the time I reached A9 my nerves had calmed (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Funny thing is that when i get it from the start of a sortie i'll a) get shot down or b) RTB with no damage inflicted or C) RTB on 1/2 a wing and have no kill under my hilt
So basically i only succeed if i can keep my calm (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
But then OTOH when i kept calm and killed a few guys i strat shainking on RTB or disengagement hehehe
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I used to get that way in the BETA; hands would sweat, natural nitrous oxide kicked in, and there I am... I bounced one guy early on at 8k or so and I felt nothing....about 10 seconds after he hit it all hit; ME!! I got my first taste of it last year when I bought the Rainbow Six game. Man, I was nervous every time I fired up that game. Still get that way when I play it too. Online sims used to do it, but not anymore; not because I'm used to getting in that kinda situation, but because I can't afford to pay HTC off!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Flakbait
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This is so called "novice fewer" and it is was there for WWII pilots. Actually till you will calm you down and be VERY patient is it hard to get a good sortie. From the other hand I miss the fewer, really. Now when I shot down anyone I hardly feel anything, but first days every killed plane was so GREAT fun. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I still remember my first kill, I got guy while he tried to land from 1.1k, that was a dweebish kill possible (and mighty spit hispanos those time), but I was SO happy (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Fariz
XII Legion.
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I dont want that my nervous just go (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif), I just want to control it need to learn and just the experience fix that but I never want to feel nothing when I shotdown other guy so whats the point ? or if I het shoted I get angry
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True, terracota. Though I get nervous a lot still I've learned to put it somewhere in my head where it doesn't affect me anymore.
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Terracota,
That's why I stopped hunting deer (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) The fealing will dull with time. Once you get realy good at your craft it will probobly go away in the main arena. The only time I get "buck fever" anymore is in the dueling ladder, especialy before the first merge of the first fight, and in 1 life to live senario's.
I've had fights in senario's and in 1v1 or 2v2 duels that literaly left me not able to control my plane because I was shaking too bad. I had a fight like this in WB 1.11 about 3 yrs ago w/ Vila and Worr in their 38's vs. my 109f. The fight lasted about 15 min or so until Worr and I collided after that 15 min fight that started at 11k and ended at 25k. I had to log out after that flight, I couldn't even type i was shaking so bad (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) thnx Vila and Worr (btw that was the day I "became a man" in WB)
Udie
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hehe con '98 udie, man u were all shaking, was funny to watch. I really only get this way in Scenarios since I dont duel anymore. Got a good 3 kill flight in yesterdays scenario but no buck fever, hmm.
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Dnil
JG-2
Part time aircraft restorer. www.kingwoodcable.com/jheuer (http://www.kingwoodcable.com/jheuer)
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hehe Dnil. I wasn't shaking as bad as mr happy on that buff run.
Udie " Stay with me and you'll get some kills, but what ever you do, DON"T TURN ON THE BUFFS 6"
30 seconds go by as well as the merge...........
Mr.Hppy (as his keyboard goes flying into his monitor) " !@#U!@#!@# I can't believe that buff shot me off his 6 so fast!"
hehe I'll never forget that one, I ended up w/ 3 dead b17's to my credit hehe hppy died 15 seconds into the fight.
Udie
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hehe try playing counterstrike with him. He has some real tough computer gear. I didnt think a mouse could fly that far. AAAHHH soon hppy will be home and AH will be alive again.
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Dnil
JG-2
Part time aircraft restorer. www.kingwoodcable.com/jheuer (http://www.kingwoodcable.com/jheuer)
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Wow, this brings back some memories. I don't get buck fever too much anymore, but way back in Warbirds 1.0x, I was in Udie's 9th AF flight of P-38J's in the scenario "Festung Deutschland". Was my first big scenario, and I was shaking like a leaf throughout the whole nine frames(Btw, I survived every frame. Was very proud of that fact).
In one frame, we were bounced by 109K's, and I took a hit in my port engine that knocked it out, and I also picked up a fuel leak. I dove for home, evading my original attacker and made a successful dead-stick landing at base.
I'm telling ya, there's nothing for excitement like a large, one-life scenario.
[This message has been edited by banana (edited 07-10-2000).]