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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Panthor on March 13, 2002, 08:37:46 PM
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Okay
It's obvious there was poor management and planning by HTC on the release of AH ver 1.09. It's time to cancel the release and burn the new code on CDs and mail them to subscribers.
A similar event occured with EA and Air Warrior that eventually led to the downfall of that game.
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Relax
We are only a few hours into this. It's going to take a day or two for the smoke to clear and things to settle down. I wish there had been more mirror sites, but I hardly think we are on the brink of "the downfall of the game".
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Originally posted by Panthor
Okay
It's obvious there was poor management and planning by HTC on the release of AH ver 1.09. It's time to cancel the release and burn the new code on CDs and mail them to subscribers.
A similar event occured with EA and Air Warrior that eventually led to the downfall of that game.
Oh yea! Now there is a cost effective alternative!
HiTech is so new at this, he needs all the management assistance he can get. :rolleyes:
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The past few updates have taken a toll on the servers. But it never lasts long (2-6 hours are pretty bad....the next few days show increased server load). Its a tad frustrating at times, but it works itself out quickly.
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go ahead and cancel...you'll be back LOL
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ZeroPing
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Error (not one that has been said)
"Error the file stdshape.res could not be opened"
? i have DL this 3 times now with DAP (getting about 150 KB a sec with it from the site) and it still doesnt work... any one that CAN play it yet? j/w, and any one have this problem also?
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Pyro
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That error is bad news. It means that the file it is trying to patch is not exactly what it expects to find. This is almost always caused by one of two things. Either you have a virus or a hard drive error. I'd recommend running a virus scan and disk scan. After that, you can only get the update by either downloading the full version or if you still have the downloads of previous versions that can still get you up to 1.08 patch 6, you can install those again before installing the 1.09 patch.
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i cant believe the udder stupidity of this post panthor or whoever u are ,get a fuggin clue , better yet go play warbirds 8P
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Panthor.....
Like I was trying to tell ya before we had to log, these sort of problems are what happen when you make big changes to the game.
HTC is not EA; HTC actually FIXES the bugs in AH. Look for these problems to be squashed VERY quickly, like in under a week.
J_A_B
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Oh BTW, I'm getting the CTD's too. I just know they're going to be fixed soon enough.
Personally I suspect it's something to do with AHvoice but that's just my own suspicion. In my past experiences voice programs have been notorious for causing CTD's.
Whatever the cause is, HTC WILL get it sorted out rapidly.
J_A_B
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:rolleyes: .....shuddup Panthor
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Originally posted by Panthor
Okay
It's obvious there was poor management and planning by HTC on the release of AH ver 1.09. It's time to cancel the release and burn the new code on CDs and mail them to subscribers.
A similar event occured with EA and Air Warrior that eventually led to the downfall of that game.
Panthor, take a look at the announcement, another site is being made available for downloads.
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its obvious he is addicted to AH like the rest of us .. and amoung the lets go nuts downloading it all at the same time crowd .... shure the servers are loaded and its taking awhile ... well go to bed get up early and try again ... "DAP" works great for it u can pause the download and come back later when its less busy or switch to the mirror site . thats what I did and I was updated in under 15 mins .(total time trying) .
BTW that bf110 just rocks . And the ar 234 w/ the rear cannons well lol I managed to get one kill and 1 assist 1st time out .great job All at HTC
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Beeeeeeeeeeppppppp!!!!.......Dipshit Alert!
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Panthor, I made some posts about this situation in this thread (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47763)
Hope that helps.
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I was having trouble getting it at first, the "gotta have it NOW" crowd was killing my d/l, lol. I waited patiently and late at night/early morning I got it just fine. Too bad I was drunk when I finally got it, lmao, my first action in the new version was a quick death :rolleyes: lol.
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"better yet go play warbirds 8P"
was that a joke? if so you have a poor taste of humor.
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Perhaps if the release came during other than prime time would have helped to. It is frustrating to wait on so long for a 2 minute download.
Maybe if the broadband guys had some time without the slow connection guys cloggin up the works for 30 min or so. Alot of broadband guys could be in and out of the server in a hurry, freeing up more server space for everyone else faster. As it was everyone was waiting a long time, even those who could have been in and out in 2 minutes.
Alternatively they could limit the number of simultaneous connections allowed, letting the server load up till it quits running left alot of people with broken downloads.
(Those with installation errors - verify the file size is correct.)
Another idea is to post the update a day before the arena switches over to it. (I was more dissapointed at not being able to fly last night than how slow the 1/09 DL was.)
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Originally posted by Master
"better yet go play warbirds 8P"
was that a joke? if so you have a poor taste of humor.
He wont like that either, Warbirds download is somewhere between 80-100 megs. AH download size is very tiny compared to other sims :)
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Well I first tried the auto download, was gonna be to long, and stopped to Think....went to the mirror site & download took 2 min & 17 seconds. In amount of time took to make this post you could have Thought & figured out an alternative.
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Originally posted by Master
"better yet go play warbirds 8P"
was that a joke? if so you have a poor taste of humor.
no iwas telling him if he didnt like it go play WB... more like tellin him to get lost ...........38
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I think the answer would have been to release the update to several servers and players who are willing to post the update for others to download.
simHq and several long term AH customers are often more than willing to do this and it would certainly speed things up.
I spend 4 HOURS trying to use the auto updater, (whilst watching TV to help kill the frusration) got connected but was estimated at 202 minutes!! with 900 bytes per sec!! thats the absolute worst ive seen from HTCs auto updater. But I think this was due to the fact that when i went to HTCs download page it was still offering 1.87 as the latest update!?
However eventually i got it in 3 MINUTES from a customer who posted it on his website.
ALSO and this is the saving grace for me.When i eventually did get on AH with the new update installed and mentioned the 4 hour wait HT read what i said and said 'hazed sorry for the screw up'. Hey thats cool eh? the actual programmers are there and they are working like slaves to please us and they take time to appologise for their mistake.I personally couldnt hold a grudge after that :D
so HTC , ya made 'fubar' but hell we forgive ya :D
fantastic update yet again!!!
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Well hazed,..it will be a few days before I can even attempt to get 1.09!
Ya see,..all those auto-updaters are chewing my bandwidth up and spittin it out. Heck,..even if I could get the file, I would not be able to connect to the MA due to the congestion from the auto-updater guys. LOL!
So you guys think you're frustrated? You have no idea what that word means. :D
Oh,..if you were seeing 1.87 on the download page, it is because your ISP is running a cahing proxy WEB server and you are getting the pages from it.
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don't use the auto updater go to:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/
and pick one of the Downloads.
This would not have helped you during primetime last night however, it was still faster than auto updater.
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Uh Honcho,..you do not understand. I am on the other side of the clogged pipes from the auto-updater. The download file is at the other ISP and I cannot get to it due to my pipes being 100% occupied by auto-updaters.
I have to admit it is somewhat ironic. lol.
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don't use the auto updater go to:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/
and pick one of the Downloads.
This would not have helped you during primetime last night however, it was still faster than auto updater.
Here are DIRECT DL links for you:
Full Version-
http://planet1.planetcobalt.com/~hitech/AH109.EXE
or
http://ftp://ftp.swbell.net/private/hmason/AH109.EXE
Update Version-
http://planet1.planetcobalt.com/~hitech/AH1086T109.EXE
or
http://ftp://ftp.swbell.net/private/hmason/AH1086T109.EXE
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Ok Honcho,..one more time. I am the ISP that hosts all the arenas, except the MA.
The auto-updater file comes from my service (AppLink). Right now we at AppLink are into 18 hours of 100% congestion on our pipes to the Internet. In order for me to get one of those files at any other site, I have to be able to get to the Internet to download it.
I cannot as my pipes are 100%+ utilized by HTC clients using the auto-updater as opposed to going to a WEB site and dowloading it directly.
I do find this very ironic that the ISP hosting AH cannot get the update due to congestion. I wish we had our new pipes here. This is getting to be a long ordeal running at 100%+ congestion.
I just have to laugh about it.
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Himmmm? Panther just joined the Forum this month and this is his third post but he got 25 solid bites for far. That's pretty Damn good! I don't think he's beginner.....
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Previous messages were not directed to any one person (did I reply to you by mistake?)
Originally posted by Skuzzy
Ok Honcho,..one more time. I am the ISP that hosts all the arenas, except the MA.
The auto-updater file comes from my service (AppLink). Right now we at AppLink are into 18 hours of 100% congestion on our pipes to the Internet. In order for me to get one of those files at any other site, I have to be able to get to the Internet to download it.
I cannot as my pipes are 100%+ utilized by HTC clients using the auto-updater as opposed to going to a WEB site and dowloading it directly.
I do find this very ironic that the ISP hosting AH cannot get the update due to congestion. I wish we had our new pipes here. This is getting to be a long ordeal running at 100%+ congestion.
I just have to laugh about it.
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lol honcho,..it was under my post, so I thought you were responding to me.
Maybe I am getting delirious? lol
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Okay.. after 4 hours or so HTC cleaned up the servers and it actually downloaded in less than 3 minutes. Thanks to everyone with constructive feedback.
As to Crash, Tumor, and 38ruk, your comments were witty, insightful, and especially helpful for individuals of unique intelligence and social etiquette. Your stature within the game and the AH community is obviously enhanced by your comments and the level of maturity you displayed.
Thanks one and all
Panthor
p.s. I'm not exactly a rookie having played AW since 1991 and FA, Also, after playing this game only 2 1/2 months I'm ranked in the top 50.
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Originally posted by Panthor
As to Crash, Tumor, and 38ruk, your comments were witty, insightful, and especially helpful for individuals of unique intelligence and social etiquette. Your stature within the game and the AH community is obviously enhanced by your comments and the level of maturity you displayed.
Thanks one and all
Panthor
p.s. I'm not exactly a rookie having played AW since 1991 and FA, Also, after playing this game only 2 1/2 months I'm ranked in the top 50.
So, err, ahh, I love me. Who do you love?
GronK
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p.s. I'm not exactly a rookie having played AW since 1991 and FA, Also, after playing this game only 2 1/2 months I'm ranked in the top 50.
Heheh, been here since October of 99 and I am at this point in time ranked #503. Guess that means that I am pretty crappy in this game... errrr, nevermind, no guessing needed, I am pretty crappy at this game.
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lol math.. me too :)
but you know the truth about scoring in AH...
means squat unless you're a score-hog.
Team-players don't score very well
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Oh man, I wish you would have posted this last night. Here we spent all day trying to get our code rolled back to version 1.08.
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Pyro made a funny :D
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Somebody who played AW 10 years and is currently ranked in the top 50 HAS to know what he's talking about. Burn the CD's! Mail them!
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If at all possible, I'd like mine on floppies. Thank you.
SOB
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Originally posted by SOB
If at all possible, I'd like mine on floppies. Thank you.
SOB
5-1/4 floppies no doubt
-Sikboy
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I Like mine in DVD please thank you :)
BASH
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If it's possible, I'd like my copy of AH on punch cards and delivered first class mail with a "do not bend, manipulate or urinate on" warning stamped on it.
Thank you!
-SW
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Originally posted by Panthor
As to Crash, Tumor, and 38ruk, your comments were witty, insightful, and especially helpful for individuals of unique intelligence and social etiquette. Your stature within the game and the AH community is obviously enhanced by your comments and the level of maturity you displayed.
p.s. I'm not exactly a rookie having played AW since 1991 and FA, Also, after playing this game only 2 1/2 months I'm ranked in the top 50.
:rolleyes: .... Shuddup Panthor
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Well Mr Smarty Panthor Pants, I'VE been playing for 4 months and last tour I was ranked 1172! So there. My number is higher than yours, take that. And send me that copy of 1.09 in ASCII format, i'll type it all in myself.
Also, my jokes are better than yours, im funnier. Me. And I am wearing a nicer tie.
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LOL ... Who is Panther!.. I love you! haha.. throughout this entire message... you said one thing!..
"Shaaaddup panther".. :rolleyes:
lol..... ROFL...
Idunno why I find this soo funny hahaha...
its like, telling the villiage idiot.. that NO... even SMALL ROCKS
WILL not FLOAT!.. haha
funny stuff here.. Gotta luv It :D :D
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Is is possible to have V1.09 on Audio tape ?
So I can put v1.09 on my Amstard cpc 6128
else can you print the basic listing so I can type it ?
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SMALL ROCKS DON'T FLOAT??
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I was thinking about maybe trying to get 1.09 via stone tablets, but that would be WAY to expensive to mail. So how about Smoke Signals? I'm sure there would be some infrastructure problems in setting up a line of sight network for this, but it would just as worth the expense as mailing us all CD's.
-Sikboy