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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Thunder on November 01, 2001, 01:07:00 AM
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I hope I never see garbage like this again!
Am I alone?????
Quote from LaVa in another post.....
cupcake
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Posts: 133 | From: Once in DAB, Once in ATL | Registered: Jun 2001 | IP: Logged
Thunder
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no you are not alone Thunder
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Quite frankly, it's an outrage. This must not stand.
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ps.
Pyro - pls lock this thing down. This is gonna get nasty.
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Whoah...
I just now saw the post you were referring to.
You only posted his sig here. I thought you were goofing on that... and I was only commenting about it as if you found this bit of prose objectionable... as a goof :)
But ah... you were talking about something else. Uhm... so... man this aint my night at all.
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If its not taken out of context, then the word itself is not offensive. (ie, "Then they said we were a bunch of N____ers, I didn't care for that at all!")
[ 11-01-2001: Message edited by: Ripsnort ]
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I did forward that to HT. I hope the racist S.O.B. gets a ban.
ATC
note: Not the ID of AH player SOB. :)
[ 11-01-2001: Message edited by: DamnedATC ]
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I hope SOB gets banned, diddo.
Although ignoring the original thread seemed easy.
The End.
(without Daddy Pyro locking OUR threads.)
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How far does free speech go on this BBS?
far enough to allow you to start a whole new thread about the same nonsense you addressed in the original.............. :rolleyes:
[cringe]I agree with creamo[/cringe]
I hope SOB gets banned, diddo.
Although ignoring the original thread seemed easy.
The End.
(without Daddy Pyro locking OUR threads.)
[ 11-01-2001: Message edited by: Wotan ]
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Thunder is good people.
That’s a fitting offtopic fact to end to this.
The End
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Thats not cool at all..
How was the slur used though? i cant think of many appropreite ways you could use such a old ignorant term.
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Guys, where's the thread that this "N" word came from?
Somebody point me thataway please.
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It wasn't the year 2000 "N" word Hblair. Read Tom Sawyer, he said "cupcake." Oh gasp, gosh!...blarg. Get HBO for Gods Sake. Chris Rock will make you all hide in fear more than Anthrax.
Punt it why don't you, didn't you read "THE END? diddlyING Aye, (That's the "F"word) TWICE?
It's impossible to relate to you tards, so i punt it again. -
Make HTC lock silly community toejam. Noone can just let it go.
Fools.
[ 11-01-2001: Message edited by: Creamo ]
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Yeah, but where's the "N" thread. :)
And to be honest, I prolly agree with you on the use of the N word. It's prolly no more inappropriate than other words that get hurled around. But it's like a hand grenade, everybody's gotta be so sure the get dis-associated from it that they look kinda goofy.
Where's the thread?
[ 11-01-2001: Message edited by: hblair ]
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Aw toejam, now I'm getting banned! I'll admit I've used the word, but not just randomly spewing it out for no apparent reason on some BBS like Lava did in the Eagle's 1.09 thread. I always made sure to do it in the company of friends and co-workers of the ebony persuasion, while also talking about their eating habits (usually involving Popeye's fried chicken).
SOB
BTW...What is a "cracker assed cracker" anyhow? :D
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**Watches as SOB non-schilauntly(sp?) gives out the locations of the thread..** Good work.
Because inquiring minds want to know.(TM) ;)
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Its from the "graphics suggestions for 1.09" thread. Sorry SOB did not mean you. :)
ATC
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I know...it's just fun to have SOB as a handle sometimes ;)
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Racist/homophobic/ethnic hate speech is nothing new to this board or game...
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Originally posted by funkedup:
Racist/homophobic/ethnic hate speech is nothing new to this board or game...
neither is banning...
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Some people get paid for their posts?
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hehe RAM, you'd know ;)
Popeye mentioned that the 'N' word can also be used to mean 'cheapskate', i.e. some1 who wants it all but not prepared to pay aslos some1 mentioned that its not at all like Lava. I've seen this guy posting before and I agree it's not like him. Perhaps a hack. Suggest Lava posts and tells us what the story is?
Gremlin.
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Why is this mentioned, but the use of 'towelhead', which is rampant in the O'club as of late, not mentioned?
Seems that in light of recent events, selective racism is tolerated, or even embraced.
I find that every bit as disturbing.
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Kratzer, how about when someone sees me in a cowboy hat in DT seattle and says "Redneck"...same as a Towel head IMO.
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How far does free speech go on this BBS?
On this bbs, free speech goes all the way.
The slut.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
Kratzer, how about when someone sees me in a cowboy hat in DT seattle and says "Redneck"...same as a Towel head IMO.
Come on, Rip, I give you more credit than to truly think that 'towelhead' is in reference to someone's headgear, and not to their racial background, and that any parallel can be drawn between it and 'redneck', which is not a racially motivated term. Its usage in the thread linked below has absolutely nothing to do with clothing, and everything to do with the suggestion that a person of Arab descent must be of lesser intelligence or worth, or at best a predisposition to wanton violence.
I ain't buyin' it.
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did someone forget their sensitivity pill today? grab them up girls...
he said it for attention, just what you are giving him/her/it, whatever lava is besides an idiot.
got to disagree, raghead as referring to the sand sucking scum who destroyed 10's of 1,000's of lives indirectly and at least 5,000 directly is not the same as calling a black person the "N" word. If I were to call all turban owners ragheads, then I'd agree, it would be in the same vein.
Please rest assured, raghead is about the nicest term I call those turban wearing chicken toejam murdering bastards in polite conversations.
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Originally posted by SwampRat:
I pretty much hate everyone :)
Tumor
WOW!
DADDY! How I missed you so :)
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I will admit to being insensitive (no, don't object, it's true) on occassion and sometimes not realizing how deeply people can be wounded by a word. perhaps some of you more sensitive guys on the board.... could write out a list of words I shouldn't use? I allready see that cupcake is one so the list shouldn't take too long. i mean, how many words can their really be that are crippling?
I would allso appreciate it if said sensitive guys would post in rightious indignation every time something was said that did not meet with their approval so that we could be reminded from time to time. I tend to forget.
thank you
lazs
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Originally posted by Kratzer:
Come on, Rip, I give you more credit than to truly think that 'towelhead' is in reference to someone's headgear, and not to their racial background, and that any parallel can be drawn between it and 'redneck', which is not a racially motivated term. Its usage in the thread linked below has absolutely nothing to do with clothing, and everything to do with the suggestion that a person of Arab descent must be of lesser intelligence or worth, or at best a predisposition to wanton violence.
I ain't buyin' it.
Negative, it has to do with their cultural background...as it does when they call me a redneck.
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I allready see that cupcake is one so the list shouldn't take too long. i mean, how many words can their really be that are crippling?
There is a certain "C" word that I have never seen a man successfuly say in front of a woman without loosing an apendage.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
Negative, it has to do with their cultural background...as it does when they call me a redneck.
I would fundamentally disagree with that distinction, but if that is in fact the case, how does that distinction defend the use of the term?
I also think your comparison is lacking veracity. I don't think that most of us would accept redneck and towelhead as having anything even resembling the same meaning aside from on the most superficial of levels. Do you think that 'spear chucker' isn't a derogatory term? It fits into your generalization, but try to imagine saying the term to someone from the group you are referring to in a way that wasn't insulting. There isn't that kind hatred and fear surrounding 'redneck' (which is in any case a reference to a *choice* of life/dress/etc. it's like someone with purple hair being a 'punk rocker'). We have labels for lots of groups of people that have nothing to do with culture or race, and don't have the same sort of connotations.
You might argue that *you* don't mean it that way, but like a swastika, it doesn't matter what you think, because it symbolizes something that is terrible and painful to the rest of the world.
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If you want to get technical about what this particular N word means-
It's being uneducated and ignorant-- and is poor.
Yes, it has racial connotations- but it's true meaning is basically like calling someone a ignorant dumb f*ck piece of toejam.
-SW
[ 11-01-2001: Message edited by: SWulfe ]
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"There is a certain "C" word that I have never seen a man successfuly say in front of a woman without loosing an apendage.
AKDejaVu"
Ya know... you may be right on that one. seems none of my ex wives were fond of it. Apparently tho, the male counterpart to that word is quite acceptable.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs1:
Ya know... you may be right on that one. seems none of my ex wives were fond of it. Apparently tho, the male counterpart to that word is quite acceptable.
lazs
Johnson? Yeah, banana throws that word around on this BBS all the time!
SOB
[ 11-01-2001: Message edited by: SOB ]
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There are just as many white cupcakes in the world as black ones. Peruse your dictionary if in doubt.
That said, some words are loaded, and this is one. I am ashamed of all you boys that can't even bring yourself to say the the "N" word. LOL.
I suppose that ya'll saw the AP about the message some kid chalked on a bomb, too, eh?
"Bite this studmuffin" or something similar. Whoop-de-doo, bring out the ACLU, the NCCAP and hang that boy, whoopee it! this is 'merica and we can't have any of that freespeech roadkill.
Words, as I tell my small chillins, can only effect you with your consent. And this isn't a free speech issue, anyway, it is an issue of what HTC should tolerate on their corporate boards. Personally, If I were them, I would ban everyone that posted on this thread, and a couple more, just for good measure.
Commie studmuffin, queer bellybutton squeakes that we all are....
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ok, how about sand "n" word
means sand cupcake. :eek:
leaves out the towel head syndrome cloths thing.
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Can't we all just get along?? :rolleyes:
But considering the slurs used to describe anyone living right of Turkey, and the left of Japan nowadays...it would seem that this argument is pointless.
It's only a bloody word, that wasn't even being refered to anyone!
Tronsky
We boil at different degrees - Emerson
[ 11-01-2001: Message edited by: -tronski- ]
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True
I`d hate to be a participating member on this board if i belonged to that semi-popular musical beat combo "Niggas wiv attitude"...
;)
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Towelhead refers to a religious not racial group, Rednecks are so dumb they rarely understand the insult implied, but the word "cupcake" has been used for century's to perpetrate the most hidious and evil crimes on a minority group who were denied access to their most basic human rights. IMO if anyone uses it to insult another on the board, they should get a warning, then banned.
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"There is a certain "C" word that I have never seen a man successfuly say in front of a woman without loosing an apendage.
AkDejaVu"
Thats weird? Whenever I say "Cunnilingus" to a woman I always get a smile?
:p
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But of course naming a picture you've altered "stupidwhiteboy" and posting it to the UBB is perfectly acceptable. See'n as how stupid white boys aint listed as one of the downtrodden Americans yet.
BTW, Redneck originally refered to violent striking coalminers of the appalachias who wore red bandanas around their neck to show membership in the newly formed coal miners union.
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I find this thread offensive.... :rolleyes:
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Thats weird? Whenever I say "Cunnilingus" to a woman I always get a smile?
That's the wrong word. Try saying a few other C words to your wife. When you wake up 3 days later laying in a pool of your own blood looking over at a severed appendage, you'll know you got it right.
AKDejaVu
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I love it when people are trying to be so PC that they can't say "cupcake".
It's a word not a butt fungus so you can say it as long as you are not directing it at someone.
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Well, I personally have a problem even typing that word out, let alone saying it, since I had a grandfather that was racist beyond belief..I despised it as a youth.
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Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me........ naaaa wrong century.
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Towl heads.
I will call them all (afgani POS's)towl heads, and hope they die slow painful deaths.
You should not love your enemy, show them no respect.
They smite your cheak, you smash in theres.
When they are down to there last leg, you break it.
Anyone who shows respect, or argues the rights and fealings of my countries unwanted enemies, is an enemy there self.
So yes this is a ethnic slur, i use it openly and hope that all hate them in the manner i do. I dont feal sorry for the people of there country, i hope death apon them all. The united states government gave them a 3 week eviction notice and those who did not vacate the premissis, should be removed.
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The ethnic group associated with the term cupcake buy the general public is not a enemy of mine or my country, more so friend than any other ethnic group i would say. I have no reason to hate them, nor does anyone else.
Anyone who openly hates the "african american" races is a bigget and deserves death. These people have served in every war this country has ever been involved in. In earlier wars they were subjected to harsher roles than the "white man". They have died so the white racist can have a roof over his head and have the right to openly hate them in public places. But in that, they also preserved there right to hate them back and also perserved the right for me to hate the blind racist.
Ignorance at its finest.
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Waste of time.
Word for word; this thread is worth 0% anyone's time.
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
There is a certain "C" word that I have never seen a man successfuly say in front of a woman without loosing an apendage.
AKDejaVu
ah yes, how true. :D And why is that anyway?????
Concerning the orginal topic:
I have seen the word 'cupcake" on this board several times in that last 6 months or so.
On one occassion it was part of a joke made in a post by one of the "large, intoxicated, born out of wedlocks"
at first, i was offended, but then i thought about it. As it turned out i ended up laughing my bellybutton off.
my point is, a lot of times when we see or hear things, we become outraged or offended because we think that is the reaction we are supposed to have.
We learn (and not just in schools) that words such as these have meanings of shame, fear, hatred, intolerance, persecution...the list goes on.
As a result, we recoil from seeing or hearing them.
Let's not go removing words from a language.
That would be "Double-Plus-Un-Good" ;)
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"That's the wrong word. Try saying a few other C words to your wife. When you wake up 3 days later laying in a pool of your own blood looking over at a severed appendage, you'll know you got it right.
AKDejaVu"
Ahh... that explains a lot about your attitude. I'm sure it was extremely painful and traumatic. My sympathies.
Ok, so we can't say "cupcake" and we can't say " bigtoe".. This is a very short list.
Ya know... This is the first time that I have ever seen gadfly post something sensible. So see... It wasn't a totally wasted thread.
lazs
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Sorry lazs, it didn't happen to me. I actually have the ability to see something bad happen to someone else and learn from it.
Some day, you will too.
AKDejaVu
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ya know deja... you may have hit upon the essential difference between us. even if i have the "ability"... I often ignore it.
lazs
[ 11-02-2001: Message edited by: lazs1 ]
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I edited the remark er "word" for various reasons, but mainly because i didnt authorize such a statement. Like i said in another post, it happened at a party, by a guy that was wasted. I really dont know why he put cupcake in there, i can think of many other shocking terms that would make for a much bigger uproar. And a uproar it was! Whats funny is how all the PC zealots pasted the word over and over and over trying to make a point. I bet those are the guys that dont even know a black person, much less have colored friends. The term is used very loosely amongst themselves.
Think about this, what if someone posted the word cracker! Or bigtoe.
What's disgusting for some, is not for others and not for you diddlying Political Correct zealots to decide.
Jesus, have you guys ever watched HBO, or euro TV---Think some of you guys never get out of your cave. TV in Germany and France rocks - much less violence and much more T and A.
Anyway, this forum might not be the place to exercise your right to free speech, i suppose thats up to HTC to decide, they own it.
And for those they do know me, know that if i was going to troll for a flame, i would have done a better job.
LaVa
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I know you didn't post the word, yadda yadda, but I won't be labeled a 'diddlying Political Correct zealot' for saying racist comments are a bunch of BS. People can say whatever they want, and I will never say that they can't, but in turn, I can saw whatever I want right back at them if I disagree - That's free speech. A word is a word until it is put into context. Don't mistake the unwillingness of people to allow toejam like that to be said without jumping on it with being sensitive, or PC, because that isn't what it is.
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LaVa,
If your difinition of being a PC zealot is someone that is repulsed by insensitive statements, I guess I qualify! I pasted it just as it was posted so others could read for themselves and evaluate the question I posed. I am surprised a how few people in here feel the same as I do. I want to address your comments in a civil manner.
Originally posted by Lava:
Whats funny is how all the PC zealots pasted the word over and over and over trying to make a point. I bet those are the guys that dont even know a black person, much less have colored friends.The term is used very loosely amongst themselves.
My Brother-in-Law and many of my friends are African Americans. I have a God Son that is African American and I was best man for his father at his wedding. You show your ignorance by making false statements and making false assumptions about people you don't even know. You said you edited it because you didn't authorize such a statement.... so why defend it! If you feel there is nothing wrong with it you should have left it as is!
Originally posted by Lava:
What's disgusting for some, is not for others and not for you diddlying Political Correct zealots to decide.
You again show a lot of class here LaVa and you choice of words is again at its best! Name calling is always the best way to make a point! :rolleyes:
Thunder
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At first I was thinking give Lava a break, as how we went to my friends house for a BBQ, and he was 90% into a 5th of Bacardi with the grill was not going at all, and he was counting on the meat we brought. When he passed out immediatley, we just went nuts on his AOL account. We were true BASTARDS tenfold. “Email me, what’s a Clevland Steamer Contest” had us in tears.
We could hardly breathe giving out his name on the gay channel. But that’s cool...
He woke up, all was well, he laughed. So did we.
Now that I know Thunders family reunions are blaring Snoop Dog, NWA, and Sister Sledge, and Dr, Dre, I see his angst.
Come on Thunder. Give the man a break.
[ 11-03-2001: Message edited by: Creamo ]
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err some of my brothers and sisters are Fijian, we have caucasian mother thou. We lived in a country town and spent most of our fediddleing school years running or getting beat up after school sprinkled with the word "cupcake", we learned to fight and we learned to hate racist muther fediddleers just as much as they hated us. So get fediddleed, stfu or get banned!!!!
I grit my teeth and shuddup when I hear people on the main calling asian players dinks, nips and stuff and yes it happens alot and you guys who do it know who you are. Its illegal in this country to be publically descriminating against a particular group, and i'm sure in the USA there are similiar laws.
Basically what i'm saying is if your a racist, keep your views to yourself and if your an adult, fediddleing act like one.
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oh yeah btw I'm caucausian, brothers and sisters fijian, am married to a salvadorean girl, have maltese brother in law, iraqi brother in law, tongan sister in law, finnish brother in law. Although theres still lots of racists in the country, our official policy and Sydney especially is very multicultural.
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Nice try Zygoat, but i don't see your Fijian wannabe minority claim to get you any government perks. You could submit your posts as a learning disabilty though maybe.
You pry just simply got beat up as a dumb kid.
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Sticks and stones...
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Nice try Zygoat, but i don't see your Fijian wannabe minority claim to get you any government perks. You could submit your posts as a learning disabilty though maybe.
You pry just simply got beat up as a dumb kid.
LOL, don't need government perks Creamo. I've been a software developer and lecturer for 10 years now. I actually support my government with insane amounts of tax. Yeah I got beat up as a kid, did some beating back too ya dweebster homogeanous loser!!!
:D
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Drex once said he was gay on chan. 1.
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Typical yank P.C. roadkill.
Still, what can you expect from a bunch of blue eyes?
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thunder... you didn't just say "african american" did you?? Geeze.. word is that "melinen superior" is the new term and anyone using the derogatory "african american" term will be considered a bigot of nazi proportions.
lazs
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lol lazs "melinen superior" :D Ya actually made a funny post for once wtg
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Where on earth did the term "Towel Head" come from.....is that the PC way of saying "Diaper Head"???? :D
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geeze.. I made zygote laugh.. now that I crossed that off my list I can die a happy man.
lazs
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I see, after reading some of the responses to this thread, that the "ugly American" is alive and well and plays Aces High. It's a wonder to me that more people in the world don't hate us.
BTW, when I hear the term "towel head", I think of a beautiful woman stepping naked out of a shower, not someone wearing a turban.
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-SW
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Originally posted by buhdman:
BTW, when I hear the term "towel head", I think of a beautiful woman stepping naked out of a shower, not someone wearing a turban.
It's that nice Colorado air we breath, buhdman... makes us see things more clearly.