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Title: BF110G2 glider
Post by: bozon on March 16, 2002, 05:50:41 PM
I was wondering about the BF110G2 glider-like gliding ratio.
on my way back to base, from my first flight with the new bird, I find myself with the last drops of fuel (some fuel tanks were damaged by 7!!! ack hits). still a few miles from base and only about 1k higher, I start the glide-climb procedure. Cutting engine and gliding at 200-210mph, I just keep gliding.... and gliding.... and gliding.... and gliding...
finally I even needed to loose some E with flaps and sliding and landed without starting the engine even once. as always, I forgot to film.

I know this plane is probably a good glider just from looking at it's proportions (although it's hardly the only factor on which depends the glide ratio). But it seemed amazing.

not a whine, not a perking request, not a porking request... just wondering.

Bozon
Title: BF110G2 glider
Post by: Soviet on March 16, 2002, 07:36:17 PM
Well it does have rather large wings so i'm guessing it would be good at gliding, plus with no fuel or armorment the 110g2 is as light as a empty p-47 so it doesn't seem too unlikely that a plane the weight of an empty p-47 with huge bellybutton wings would glide well.

Of course (and you know who you are) whiners may complain that this means it's uber.  Come on.. I find the 110 an easy target but in experienced hands (had some good fights that surprised me) it's a real deadly aircraft.
Title: BF110G2 glider
Post by: Wilbus on March 16, 2002, 08:06:49 PM
Haven't had the displeasure of gliding with it yet.

It can take a good amount of dammage though, as long as the tail isn't hit. The tail blows of as easy as the P38 old tail did, glass tail that goes away first 20mm hit.
Title: BF110G2 glider
Post by: illo on March 17, 2002, 12:58:19 AM
IIRC 110 had very fragile tail but was otherwise quite capable of taking punishment.
Title: BF110G2 glider
Post by: Citabria on March 17, 2002, 01:02:00 AM
the magic of automatic full feather shutdowns in AH on multiengine planes at work :)
Title: BF110G2 glider
Post by: mora on March 17, 2002, 01:55:32 AM
Every plane in AH has a ridiculous glide ratio.
Title: BF110G2 glider
Post by: GRUNHERZ on March 17, 2002, 02:59:59 AM
They all glide too well. I read that an FW190A8 was a falling brick with no power in RL, try that in AH after v1.04......  v 1.03 FM did not allow such stupid glide lengths. :)
Title: BF110G2 glider
Post by: Glasses on March 17, 2002, 01:10:57 PM
vv that Grunherz really astonishing as how planes can glide here when you reduce the RPM as compared when they're in full RPM setting. I understand that the windmilling without power adds drag but it's quite frankly surprising how well they glide with lo RPM settings.
Title: BF110G2 glider
Post by: Soulyss on March 17, 2002, 02:41:46 PM
I dunno about glide performance but in regards to the durability of the tail section, I recall reading somewhere, someplace that all the armor on the 110's were in the front of the aircraft, and that the tail section was respectively rather weak... I'll try and dig up the source, but can anyone else try and shed some light on the subject?  is it true or not?
Title: BF110G2 glider
Post by: Vruth on March 17, 2002, 02:50:12 PM
The 110 has a very low wing load and is a rather streamlined in shape (as much as you can expect from a streamlined shoebox).

So yes, it would have a very good glide rate.  It also explains why it's just a good JABO aircraft.  Good dive rate, ability to carry a heavy load, and turns like a rabbit. It is, however, the size of a dump truck and a larger target compared the P-47.

Bf110: "Grandma, what great big eyes and teeth you have."

Vruth: "All the easier to see you, and to eat you up!"

:D
Title: BF110G2 glider
Post by: spitfiremkv on March 28, 2002, 07:06:23 PM
if you think the planes in AH glide too well, try the Spitfire MK XIV. it will change your (little) mind :)
Title: BF110G2 glider
Post by: Weave on March 28, 2002, 09:23:45 PM
Quote:The 110 has a very low wing load and is a rather streamlined in shape (as much as you can expect from a streamlined shoebox). So yes, it would have a very good glide rate.

I had always thought that planes with low wing loading would glide better also. But a P-51 with a high load wing will glide miles farther than a Spitfire under the same conditions. The Zero seems to be the worst glider in the plane set, when it seems like it should be the best. :confused:
Title: BF110G2 glider
Post by: spitfiremkv on March 28, 2002, 09:30:22 PM
the engine and prop do a lot of stuff to the stability of an aircraft. when the engine is not operated,extra trimming is required, and thus the deflected control surfaces can create some drag.remember,slope of flight is Lift/Drag.
also,a heavier plane will glide just as well as a lighter plane,only at higher speeds.so if you keep your nose low enough you might be able to get  better glide distance than with a shallower dive. All in all, there are a lot of factors to be considered besides wing loading.