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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: eskimo2 on March 17, 2002, 02:07:16 PM
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The only PC/video games that I have ever played are a few WWII flight sims and Myst/Riven.
I've always wanted to try out a decent car racing game, but don't know jack about them and don't want to shell out the bucks and time to mess around with lame ones.
What I want is:
* A not so new game that my old P-2 / 350 can handle and that I can find on E-Bay or on sale for cheap.
* A non-oval NASCAR type boring race track. Something with right and left turns or rally/street racing.
*Realistic.
Thanks,
eskimo
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You should probably check out Grand Prix Legends. Although i've never played it b/c im a panzy, oval track lover. I've heard great things about it from everyone here and it seems there are literally tons of mods that keep this game going and so on....This is the min/pref. specs taken from the official website
Minimum:
Windows 95/98, 166MHz Pentium, 32 mb Ram, Windows compatible video card with 2mb of memory, 2x-CD-ROM.
Preferred:
266MHz Pentium II, Rendition or 3DFx accelerator card, 64mb Ram, Windows 95/98 compatible sound, steering wheel and pedals.
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Thanks Nacho,
That sounds like a good one.
I didn't mean to bash ovals or NASCAR, I just don't like crowds and repetition. BTW, I just saw on TV an 11 car pile up at Darlington... Ouch!
eskimo
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I know exactly what you are looking for
Came with my old Voodoo card
Need for Speed 3 (4 , etc) Electronic Arts
Runs fast on my old computer, and really nicely on my P3 550
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Completely agree with Nacho. GPL is terrific but just a word of warning. It looks crap straight out of the box No I mean REALLY crap. (No D3D support, only glide - That gives you some idea of how long it's been around).
If you buy it go to http://hotgrids.racesimcentral.com/ and get the updates. Then spend many happy hours downloading and installing the different cockpit packs, Scenery patches and of course the extra tracks. It really brings the game up to at least GP3 levels (IMO). Finally when you think you are good enough get "winvroc" and try it out online. It will take you ages to outgrow this. Also FFB support is as good as any other driving sim out there.
Oh nearly forgot expect to "spin" a lot.
TTFN
snafu
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lol i didn't mean to come off hostile w/ the nascar thing. Just a little joke :p. I'lll just add smileys next time :). GL on GPL
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No offense to you guys, but screw that boring-ass round track crap!
Rally racing is where it is at!
Don't walk, RUN to the store and buy Rally Trophy (http://rally.jowood.com/) .
If you can find a copy of Colin McRae 2.0, that isn't bad either, but Rally trophy is king! Graphics are terrific, sounds are authentic, physics are good, tracks are varied and interesting - and they aren't loops. I can't give the game enough praise - simply the most driving fun I've had.
Oh... you want game for a slower machine, don't you... Colin McRae's minimum is a 233, so it might be an option... you can also check ebay for the out of print Mobil 1 Rally Championship - which is regarded as one of the best Rally games around, though not as good as these other two, imho. The minimum for Rally Trophy is a 300mhz... it's new, but it is only $30.
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GPL if u wanna race online and offline and get as real as u can +)
Rally Trophy rocks if u like rally. Though the cars are alien to most yanks.
Rally trophy is early 70's rally racing with Ford escorts, Lancia stratos, saab, Alfa, fiat etc
Great fun game
And check out my addons for the game at
http://rt.relaygames.com
SKurj
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Good choices:
Colin Mcrae (both 1 and 2)
Rally Trophy
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CART racing for Rendition. Does that card still exist?
Upgrade and get Nascar 2002, or do 47 updates and spin in GPL.
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I would add Rally Extreme to that list :D
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If you like Sportscar racing, get F12001 from EA and checkout this MOD. http://www.rsdg.net
Monk
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GPL and NASCAR.. most realistic driving sims IMO.
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GPL is by far the best racesim in the universe!
Daff
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GPL , but its a real steep learning curve
Dirt Track Racing/Dirt Track Racing - Sprint Cars, is oval type racing, but is an excellent game.
Tronsky
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learning curve, schmurning curve...
learn it, it's worth it.
Just like AH.. stick with it.
Easy learning curve = simplistic gameplay/unrealistic
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I tried to dl the demo and the game crashes as soon as the exe file is executed to open the game..
could be the fact the game is anceint and my pc has mostly all new and high proformance gear.
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No, I'm friggin' serious. (http://www.rallytrophy.com/)
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Am0n
Has to do with patches, I am running very recent gear and the game runs fine. Just have to install the 1.201 patch at papy.com, the of course there are all the graphic updates.
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No Creamo, the Rendition chipset has been dead a long time. They made like 2 or 3 chipsets, which were very good- better visual quality than the Voodoo1 and faster.
Somehow S3 chipsets lasted longer, how in the world that ever happened is beyond me.
I owned a S3 ViRGE (un)3D deccelerator, most horrid piece of garbage ever... and somehow they are still making 3D chipsets.
-SW
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I believe that S3 was purchased by Diamond... or the other way around, though that seems very unlikely...
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Dirt track racing / sprint cars is imho a nice little game, fun, fair graphics, and GREAT sounds! But... it is just another rerun of the circle/oval track thing. Even if dirt makes it a whole new story... lol, how's about you nascar boys get in the mud? LMAO!!! I would recommend one of the f1 (formula 1) racers as they have mostly road tracks and a few oval tracks for good measure (what would it be without indy?). Honestly, before you give up on oval/round tracks, think about the strategy involved in that... you have a predictable course, the better set up car should win... IF the driver and pit crew is up to the challenge! Just one more thing... if you want to get serious about racing sims, a wheel is a MUST HAVE! Just like a stick is a must for AH. Sheesh, if we overgrown kids would spend this much money on other things... lol
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All this talk about GPL :(
Had some fun times with the old AW crowd racing every Saturday. Nothing like racing with people you know.
I wonder if there are people here with enough bandwidth to host some races:)
Those bias ply tires and GPL's physics made for a very good sim.
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Grand Prix Legends and NASCAR 2002 are the ONLY "driving sims". Period. Both are awesome, and difficult(GPL especially so). An updated GPL with graphical add-ons, etc., is nearly equal graphics-wise , and superior physics-wise, to any "modern" F-1 sim.
NASCAR 2002, not surprisingly, has a more advanced physics model and is more "realistic" than GPL. N2002 also has better MP than GPL, but both are way ahead of anything else. And if you think racing around in circles is "easy", come on out to the next GROWL NASCAR race and "prove it".
We have 2 Online Racing Leagues comprised of WWII online air-combat players. If you think you have what it takes, drop on by and join-up:
GROWL GPL BBS: http://www.theofficersclub.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi
GROWL NASCAR 2002 BBS: http://www.vpaddock.com/index.php
Cabby
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Guys,
Thanks for all the input, I've been reading what you all have said and looking at web-sites dedicated to these sims.
Rally Trophy looks exactly what I'm looking for: cool old cars (Volvo Amazon, SAAB 96 and Mini!!!) and a variety of exciting terrains/courses with great graphics,
GPL sounds like it's a great sim, but for the life of me I can't find any screen shots of cars or courses. I found lots of dedicated web-sites, but no links to screen shots would go through. It was like pictures were a big secret of something. I must have spent 20 or 30 min at GPL sites and never saw one damn picture of a car or track.
If anyone has a link to working screen shots of GPL cars or courses, please post them. I also never found a list of available cars.
Cabby,
I would never say that driving on oval tracks takes less skill, I just think that I would get bored looking at nothing but walls and grandstands, making only left hand turns when I could be zipping along an always changing mountain road with trees, cliffs and whoopty-doo jumps.
Lastly,
I never posted at the top that I want a sim that is playable out-of-the-box, I guess I just assumes they all were... I don't want to down-load a bunch of stuff to make it worth playing...
Are both of these (GPL and RT) playable out-of-the-box offline?
Also, when you crash in either of them can you just click "drive" and go again?
I sure as hell don't want to "virtually fix" a car before I drive it again (I get the impression that this is a "feature" of some racing sims...).
eskimo
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hi eskimo,
look here for high quality cars & Tracks:
GPLEA (http://www.sportplanet.com/gpl/)
and from this site you can found the best Add-ons for GPL:
GPL++ The Addons (http://gplpp.com/)
have fun!
Gh0stFT
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Well, theres always GT3 on the PS2.
Tronski
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eskimo -
Rally Trophy is good to go out of the box, though there is a small developer-released patch that I recommend installing that improves some of the playback tools, and gives you more controller support. It doesn't take any user add-ons to look and sound good, or to play well. If you don't want oval track racing, you can't do better.
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Need for speed 5 Porche Unlimited!
best feeling racing game i've played.
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Eskimo, you need to try out GPL online racing with the GROWL league. We race every Saturday night, and it's a blast. Nothing like racing against your friends every week!
We have around 10-15 regulars each week, all from Aces High, Warbirds and WW2OL. It's a great group of guys. Stop by the GROWL BBS at the URL in Cabby's post, and we'll get you taken care of. :)
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Originally posted by banana
Eskimo, you need to try out GPL online racing with the GROWL league. We race every Saturday night, and it's a blast. Nothing like racing against your friends every week!
We have around 10-15 regulars each week, all from Aces High, Warbirds and WW2OL. It's a great group of guys. Stop by the GROWL BBS at the URL in Cabby's post, and we'll get you taken care of. :)
This sounds great! I'll read the BBS and hopefully race next weekend. This is going to be great!
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Hmm
Tried the demo of a ton of racing/car games,but only liked 2 of them.
Firstly, "INSANE" from codemasters....quite good. really, really good actually..........
Secondly, "LEADFOOD" from...ratbag software or something like that. It's a racecourse game, but quite cool none the less.
INSANE is in the cheap-sell boxes by now.
Good luck and godspeed...:D
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Thanks for all the advice guys!
GPL sounds great, but Rally Trophy is exactly what I am looking for. I just bought a new one on half.com for $20. I tried the free download for about 5 minutes and was 100% sold.
eskimo
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MrLars, we're actually between seasons four and five right now, so things are a little slow. I think we have another week of vacation until season five ramps up. But this is the perfect time to get yourself registered on the BBS and introduce yourself. We'll help you get setup for everything you'll need. :)
http://www.theofficersclub.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi
Btw, don't be worried by the lack of threads in the GROWL General forum, the website went down a few days ago and lost most of the threads. But rest assured, we're still there.
Johnny Bax
Rock Ridge Racing, Inc.
With a laurel and a hearty handshake
G.R.O.W.L. (Grand Prix Legends Racing Online Warbirds League)
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MrLars, haven't seen you drop in yet. StSanta is now a member, was wondering if you still plan on joining us for season 5. It starts this Saturday night, so hurry on over if you're still interested.