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Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Hooligan on March 20, 2002, 01:25:58 AM
And here is the proof:

(http://www.lvcm.com/jayb/spit14.jpg)

Shortly after taking this screen shot, Apache did the community a service by shooting down the fiend.

Hooligan
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: discod on March 20, 2002, 01:58:34 AM
What!????  You mean the Spit14 isn't SUPPOSED to be in my hangar????  :D

No wonder that bishop used plane dealer let me have it so cheap!
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Tumor on March 20, 2002, 02:31:22 AM
... Only time I saw that bastige was on my 6.  I call foul and demand a replay!  

There I was...

Diving into an enemy laden furball. I was fast (109) and certainly confident, nuthin but a silly Lanc higher'n me.  As I make my run through I quickly check my 6 and see spit about 1k back, "hmmm... didn't see that guy before, where'd he come from"?  A few seconds later I check 6 again and am a little goofed at finding that same dweebfire was able sneak in apparently from MUCH higher alt and is still closing  "oh well, he's still 800 back I'll just kick the wep and outru...."HEY WAIT A SECOND"... check 6 again (much to my demise) to comfirm my brain had just caught up with my eye's. "SPIT14???" (My "your screwed" siren begins to wail) With my eye's the size of sewer lids and my face locked in a look of total perplextion, I hit the brakes and jink hard. One ping later my tail section decides it's had enough and departs for more comfortable surroundings.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: MadBirdCZ on March 20, 2002, 02:46:29 AM
umm and what were YOU flying Hooligan? :D
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Karnak on March 20, 2002, 02:48:50 AM
Nice screen edit, I think.

I do hope the Spitfire F.Mk XIVc arrives soon though.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Apache on March 20, 2002, 05:39:30 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
Nice screen edit, I think.

I do hope the Spitfire F.Mk XIVc arrives soon though.


Not an edit.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: MadBirdCZ on March 20, 2002, 06:07:12 AM
umm.... so post the film :)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Kweassa on March 20, 2002, 07:10:14 AM
Strange as it seems..

 the pic doesn't look like it;s edited...

 edges too smooth..

 ...

 hmmm
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Apache on March 20, 2002, 07:20:42 AM
Its not edited guys.

BTW, HiTech sure is a good spit driver :).
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: MadBirdCZ on March 20, 2002, 07:25:18 AM
Umm... just one question: How much does HT want for enabling it in my version of AH? ;)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Kweassa on March 20, 2002, 07:48:17 AM
Does this mean new planes will be released with patches?

 Is this 'Spit14'

 a) Nothing but some specially 'beefed up' Spit9 with different icon,
     just for HT's fun.

 b) a Spit9 with 'Spit14' icon and FM, for FM test purposes for  near
     future release

 c) a Spit14, full 3D-modelled with full FM, for test purposes

 d) Apache's elaborate hoax :D

 
 ps) We demand the film!!
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: skernsk on March 20, 2002, 07:53:20 AM
Hmmm ..... I can hear the LW soiling theior leathers from here:)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Apache on March 20, 2002, 08:01:29 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Kweassa
Does this mean new planes will be released with patches?

 Is this 'Spit14'

 a) Nothing but some specially 'beefed up' Spit9 with different icon,
     just for HT's fun.

 b) a Spit9 with 'Spit14' icon and FM, for FM test purposes for  near
     future release

 c) a Spit14, full 3D-modelled with full FM, for test purposes

 d) Apache's elaborate hoax :D

 
 ps) We demand the film!!


I have the film, just no where to post it.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Staga on March 20, 2002, 08:02:02 AM
Naah, what you're going to see is boat loads of "captured" MkXIV's :)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: FDisk on March 20, 2002, 08:07:45 AM
Well, HT has done it before BUT i've taked to him with a friend of mine and he said that the would never, ever put in the spit 14 as it'd be to unfair to the LW.

But if they did.

allow the raping to begin!
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Gremlin on March 20, 2002, 08:23:18 AM
This is all getting rather close to April 1st.  Think about it guys.

Gremlin.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Gremlin on March 20, 2002, 08:25:12 AM
Apache,

E-mail the film to me and Ill put it up on a URL for ya.  C'mon lets see the evidence.  gremlin@webtreatz.com

Gremlin.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: hblair on March 20, 2002, 08:44:27 AM
The 2.5 year "happy time" of the LW in Aces High is about to come to a close. I personally am happy to see the RAF guys get a competitive spitfire (in terms of speed). Maybe funky munky will do an about face. I'd like to see him back in the game and flying in the Spit 14 myself.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: FDisk on March 20, 2002, 08:56:46 AM
I can only pray Hblair is right :)
The LW is to proud for too long!
The JV.7 needs lessons in humility.
:D
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: VWE001 on March 20, 2002, 09:09:27 AM
Yes, lets release a 5th version of the silly spitty before releasing even the 1st version of too many planes to list that are still missing from this game. No, even better... lets remove all aircraft except the spitty and include all remaining Mk.'s!
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: FDisk on March 20, 2002, 09:17:04 AM
How many 109 and 190s are there!?!? 8? 16? JU88?

etc. etc.
I've been waiting and drooling over every version for the Spit Mk.XIV

But I think VWE001 does have a good idea :D
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Pei on March 20, 2002, 09:28:46 AM
So the next question is

how much will it be perked for? 25 points? anyone care to bid?
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Gremlin on March 20, 2002, 09:44:47 AM
Ceratinly a high value perk, and so it should.  It will make the C-HOG look like a lamb.  I'd like to see something around 40 that will make it playable without seeing hundreds of en around the arena.  I'm still not convinced about the authenticity of the original screenshot tho.  I want the film.

There is another slant Grayarea pointed out.  Previously when testing flight models HT used other planes (remember the 600mph P51??)  So if HT is using the actual spit 14 shape then it must already be in the code.   What makes me suspicious is the '14' designation.  Would have thought HTC would have used 'XIV' Mebbe they can only use 6 characters.

Hope I'm just being my usual sceptical self.

Gremlin.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Kratzer on March 20, 2002, 09:51:10 AM
You can just attach the film to the BB, Apache - when yo post, ther is an 'attach file' bit below the window that you type in.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Apache on March 20, 2002, 10:03:04 AM
Yes, I know. I'm not going to post the actual film as there are converstations with my squad mates on there. Who wants to hear ole lazs anyway?

I'm making an avi file of it but the system I'm using doesn't have the updated terrains and can't logon to AH because I'm not going to open the ports on the proxy server. The terrain is only water because of the incompatibile terrain. Also, I gotta get the size down. It's too stinkin' big right now.

Listen, I'm not pullin' a hoax. This is legit. Several rooks saw it lastnight. Tumor even got shot down before I could get to him. Dern spitV is slooooow.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: hblair on March 20, 2002, 10:05:05 AM
Aww come on. I wanna see what lazs had to say. :)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Apache on March 20, 2002, 10:06:03 AM
Quote
Originally posted by hblair
Aww come on. I wanna see what lazs had to say. :)


No, you don't :)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Nifty on March 20, 2002, 10:06:06 AM
Temp price - 10 is what I'm guessing for ol' Spit XIV if she ever comes around.

Sweet.  Go out in a Mk I for a couple of days, earn a Spit XIV...  works for me.  :)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Charon on March 20, 2002, 10:15:06 AM
The XVI LF/E would be sweeter, even at a 4-point perk or so :)

Charon
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Gremlin on March 20, 2002, 10:20:29 AM
Apache,

AVI's prove nothin.  OK heres an offer, send me the film I hearby solemly take an oath never to divulge anything theirin contained except the existance/non-existance of aforementioned Supermarine Spitfire Mk.XIV by any means electronic or otherwise without the express written permission of said Apache.

I hearby gaurantee to allow every Knight and Rook to shoot me down without resistance three times if I should break this oath.

So help me God.

C'mon Apache send it to me and I'll then vouch.  Puherleeese

Grem.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Apache on March 20, 2002, 10:30:12 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gremlin
Apache,

AVI's prove nothin.  OK heres an offer, send me the film I hearby solemly take an oath never to divulge anything theirin contained except the existance/non-existance of aforementioned Supermarine Spitfire Mk.XIV by any means electronic or otherwise without the express written permission of said Apache.

I hearby gaurantee to allow every Knight and Rook to shoot me down without resistance three times if I should break this oath.

So help me God.

C'mon Apache send it to me and I'll then vouch.  Puherleeese

Grem.


Because we fought together in "The Rumble" I'm thinkin' I can trust ya. Puttin' in some thought, chewin' ma cud, gonna cypher on it a lil' whal. Ya know we southerners are a lil' slow. :D
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Furious on March 20, 2002, 10:40:39 AM
LOL, you guys are funny with your "LW crapping their pants" posts.

Lets see how much the dedicated jug, f4u-1d, p-51, etc. drivers enjoy having the 14 around.

We all will be crapping our pants.


F.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Gremlin on March 20, 2002, 10:55:37 AM
Well guys Apache has put his AHF where his BMP lies.  He has sent me the film.  Thx Apache.  I am in work at the mo so soon as I can check it I will verify.  Lookin good:)



Gremlin.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Karnak on March 20, 2002, 11:07:22 AM
(The following is typed under the assumption that this is not a hoax and the Spitfire XIV is going to be added like the P-47D-30 and P-47D-25 were, in version patches not in a new version)

I hope that the 14 is not too expensive.  If it costs 60-70 points I will only be able to lose 2 per month, when the time/performance comparable aircraft like the Bf109G-10, Fw190D-9, La-7 and P-51D can all be flown and lost for free, as many times as you want.  Contrary to what many on this board think, the vast majority of AH players, either through low play time per month or lack of skill, cannot simply fly as many Tempest priced aircraft as they want and infact take multiple sorties to earn the points for an F4U-1C.  I think the goal should be to control the Spitfire XIV, but not eliminate it.  I never see Tempests, F4U-4s, Ta152s, Ar234s or even Me262s nowadays.  When we look at how often those aircraft get used, it is something like 500 times per month on average.  The Spitfire MkXIV entered service on Jan. 2, 1944.  Earlier than any of the other 4 fighters I mentioned in this thread, more than 9 months before the Fw190D-9.

The Spitfire XIV will already be operating under the handicap of being gangbanged wherever it appears, the icon ensures that, while lacking the required speed to escape, many fighters being faster than it as AH combat altitudes.

If it does cost 60-70 perk points, well, there's always the CT.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Karnak on March 20, 2002, 11:12:21 AM
Apache,

Did it have a different graphic, or was it just using a Spit IX graphic?

If it did have a different graphic, was it a 1944 "razorback" Spitfire XIV, or a 1945 "bubble" canopy" Spitfire XIV?

I'm hoping for the 1944 version.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: MadBirdCZ on March 20, 2002, 11:14:13 AM
If this is not a troll (still not sure about it) the so called SPIT14 could have been the 'surprise plane' mentioned by HTC officials before 1.09 release which (as I said in one post after the release) due some problems either FM or art didn't quite make it into the 1.09 release... So Im not saying anything... Its just a thought... ;)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Wlfgng on March 20, 2002, 11:15:49 AM
what a friggin' awesome plane.
torque has to be dealt with but.. now I'm gonna have to keep an eye out for spits...sigh.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Ratbo on March 20, 2002, 11:21:38 AM
Adds a whole new meaning to the "Spitler Youth".  

-W


Quote
Originally posted by skernsk
Hmmm ..... I can hear the LW soiling theior leathers from here:)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: FDisk on March 20, 2002, 11:25:20 AM
Quote
the so called SPIT14 could have been the 'surprise plane' mentioned by HTC officials before 1.09 release which (as I said in one post after the release) due some problems


I'll go look at for the post if you want me too but it's where Pyro posted "where did you get the idea that a surprise plane was comming in 1.09?"
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: AKSWulfe on March 20, 2002, 11:27:40 AM
FYI, the P47-D25 came in one version but it wasn't turned on until one of the following patches.. or wasn't finished... then it still caused CTDs so it was disabled until the next patch.

So it's quite possible the Spit14 is in, just not active.
-SW
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Gremlin on March 20, 2002, 11:29:11 AM
Ok film checked out.  This is for real, complete with 5 blade prop, looks just like a spit9 otherwise.  And its hitech flying it.  Cause apache shot him down.  WTG Apache.

So next question is when, next patch??



Gremlin.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Apache on March 20, 2002, 11:29:42 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
Apache,

Did it have a different graphic, or was it just using a Spit IX graphic?

If it did have a different graphic, was it a 1944 "razorback" Spitfire XIV, or a 1945 "bubble" canopy" Spitfire XIV?

I'm hoping for the 1944 version.


Gosh Karnak, I don't know much about the spit variants. It looked like spit9 graphics to me. When I first saw the icon, I thought I was seeing things because it was behind me and blinked out quickly. I let the thought pass but then a squaddie asked if anyone had seen a spit14 icon? When I heard that, I turned to where I saw the icon disappear.

The screen shot you see is the spit coming back at me after I had turned. He zoomed right past me like a bat outta hell. I turned and chased him. (Note: I was in a spitV). The spit14 engaged a friendly. I engaqed shortly after. I knew by then it was Hitech. He had killed Tumor and Tumor was yellin' at him about not being fair, lol. That was the direction Hitech was coming from in the screen shot.

Hitech even said on channel 1 after I got him, "First 14 kill", so I don't think he's hiding it. :)

Gremlin might help better on the spit ID when he see's the film.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Karnak on March 20, 2002, 11:34:35 AM
Sounds like a "razorback" if it looked like a IX.

Need sounds for a Griffon 65 engine now!!!!!:D
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: AcId on March 20, 2002, 11:50:57 AM
What I find interesting about this screenshot is the name of the person broadcasting in AHV, That same person once said "All you guys who like AH voice are the same people who's mamma's made the other kids play with em. Get a life." I find it odd that someone who would appear to feel that negative about AHv would actually use it. Not to detract from the topic of this post or anything, just thought I'd bring it up.    
:rolleyes:
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: hazed- on March 20, 2002, 12:03:51 PM
spitfire IVX was very common in the skies and as such i dont think it should be perked at all.

Dora isnt perked
P51D isnt perked
NikJ isnt perked
F6F isnt perked


all late war fighters and around at the same time, some of these were produced in lesser quantity also.


if the arena gets flooded with them like the F4Uc was then it should be perked in a similar manner to the F4uc but not before.


I think its about time the RAF ot a later war model that is available to fly quite freely until overuse makes it damage enjoyment in the MA.

And that doesnt mean perking it after the first week or two its introduced either as we will ALL try it out for a while.
Im not really a flyer of RAF stuff but i sure appreciate the fact that they have been flying a 1943 fighter as their mainstay ride for far too long.
So the spit 14 is a fantastic plane? better that the p51d or dora or nikj or whatever? well maybe it SHOULD be the ride of choice for a while.

I look forward to it :D
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: J_A_B on March 20, 2002, 12:17:27 PM
I'm willing to wager that it WILL be perked--note it has a "spit14" ICON and not just "spit".  I also suspect it'll be a moderately priced perk (between Chog and 152).   With regards to perking/unperking, I trust HTC to make the right decision.

Finally, who want's to bet that this was the "surprise" plane that Pyro mentioned and it just didn't quite make it out in time for 1.09??

J_A_B
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: FDisk on March 20, 2002, 12:42:35 PM
Ok, that's it i'm going to find the article!!
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: AKSWulfe on March 20, 2002, 12:42:47 PM
Yes AcId, but Lazs is using ahvoice to broadcast over the squad comms... not channel/range.
-SW
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Gremlin on March 20, 2002, 12:47:15 PM
Apache,

Mind if i post some close up screenies minus the text buffer??
If anything we need to record the first ever spit14kill in AH?

It's definitely a new shape guys, long nose funny canopy.



Grem.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: FDisk on March 20, 2002, 12:47:44 PM
Quote
Where did the "secret plane" appellation come from? We're pretty much always working on planes but we just never announce them until they're completed. Otherwise we'd just be dishing out disappointment anytime something could not be completed in time and had to be pushed back.


http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47847 (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47847)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Ripsnort on March 20, 2002, 12:49:20 PM
(Sigh) guess its time to remind you guys that "Real men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly inlines"...and in beta we used to call them "Barbie-fires" :D

(http://home.earthlink.net/~ripsnort/Funnys/trans_barbie.jpg)

Just say NO to the Spitfire!

(Incidently, the F4U-1C was perked because it exceeded 20% of the planes flown in MA, bet the Sissyfire exceeds that now!)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: streakeagle on March 20, 2002, 12:55:14 PM
It wasn't perked because of how many were being flown, it was perked because of the lopsided kill statistics ;) Spitfire has yet to kill twice as many aicraft as the runner up the way the Hog-C regularly did before it was perked.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Ripsnort on March 20, 2002, 12:57:05 PM
Quote
Originally posted by streakeagle
It wasn't perked because of how many were being flown, it was perked because of the lopsided kill statistics ;) Spitfire has yet to kill twice as many aicraft as the runner up the way the Hog-C regularly did before it was perked.


Incorrect, my friend, want me to dig up Pyro's post or do you want to? ;)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Zippatuh on March 20, 2002, 01:05:09 PM
I think the 14 would be a great addition.  It will be interesting to see what the perk cost is.  Especially compared to the F4U-4, which again is still overpriced IMO.



“Drop the price of the 152 and the F4U-4!” ;)

Zippatuh
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Wanker on March 20, 2002, 01:14:50 PM
Hooligan and Apache speaketh the truth.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: MadBirdCZ on March 20, 2002, 01:15:31 PM
Ok FDisk you asked for it... Have to find the post where they speak bout secret planes :)  Hope someone didn't remove the evidence yet ;)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Sikboy on March 20, 2002, 01:17:40 PM
We're still trying to get more planes finished for this release and hopefully we'll have at least one more than the five that we've already announced.  (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46953)
-Pyro


There it is.

-Sikboy
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: streakeagle on March 20, 2002, 01:18:58 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Pyro's exact words. I don't doubt your memory, just what he said and how you interpret it may be different from how I may interpret it ;)

Having followed the "perk the C-Hog" battle from beginning to end, the kill statistics were and recently have been brought up repeatedly as the key justification. The recent post illustrated how the Spitfire may be a consistent leader in air to air, but has always been relatively close in stats to two or more aircraft, whereas the C-Hog dominated the arena dramatically in air to air by a factor of 2 and was also used extensively and effectively as an air to ground plane. The fact that the Spit is generally an inferior ground attack plane yet is seeing heavy use reflects the shift in the MA away from strat to furballing in recent cycles.

Personally, I saw no reason to perk the C-Hog and certainly no reason to perk the Spit IX or Spit V. If you don't like getting shot down by Spitfires, learn to fly something they can't touch like an awesome e-fighter (Bf109G-10?), a solid turn fighter (A6M5), or the dweebiest unperked plane of all (N1K2). I wonder if the C-Hog were unperked if everyone would start flying it again? Or was it just a fad that has now been solidly broken?
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Sikboy on March 20, 2002, 01:31:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by streakeagle
I wouldn't mind seeing Pyro's exact words. I don't doubt your memory, just what he said and how you interpret it may be different from how I may interpret it ;)


Those are his exact words, and clicking on the quote will take you to the message.

-Sikboy
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: streakeagle on March 20, 2002, 02:34:20 PM
umm, sorry you misunderstood... exact words about why the C-hog was perked ;) Ripsnort and I were discussing this ;)

I found Pryro's words, and they support my claim for why the C-Hog was perked: kill stats.

Quote
Perks are a way to balance the arena, not so much a means of classifying planes. How many were produced or what its combat record was is not relevant. Some planes intended to be perks may not need to be while others that weren't intended to be may end up getting perked. Right now, the F4U-1C is accounting for about 20% of all kills in the arena. I don't want to push the score values any further so perking it is about the only option left. I don't really like the idea of making a carrier plane unavailable from the carrier.

------------------
Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: FDisk on March 20, 2002, 02:46:42 PM
But they released 6 new planes in the 1.09!
Spitfire I, Hurricane I, Bf 109E-4, Bf 110C-4, Bf 110G-2, and Ki-67.

Quote
PYRO: hopefully we'll have at least one more than the five that we've already announced.


SO :p !!
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Ripsnort on March 20, 2002, 02:55:06 PM
Streak, you and I are agreement as far as perking goes, a witch hunt occured, and the Chog was the victim.  One theory why you don't see the Spit getting the K/D ratio that the Chog is, is its the number 1 plane I hear recommended when newbies come online.  No one ever recommended the Chog for newbies, in fact, you'd die alot in the Chog if you could not handle it defensively.

Anyway, I say that now that the Chog has the extra  400 lbs of weight added to it (that was missing), it should be unperked. Perking it at the time may have been a good choice, but alot of the popularity was due to the Navy(CV's) being new, and "Water World" Map make it an obvious choice to select Navy planes.  Hell, the Tiffy gives me more headaches today than any Chog will, but I digress, some folks went on a witch hunt and found a witch. Time for the Spit to burn at the stake. :D

Edit: I stand corrected, and mentally edit my above post to say "I wonder if they'll perk the Spit if it exceeds 20% of the kills in the MA" :)

Deja! Need some stats! :)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Sikboy on March 20, 2002, 03:05:40 PM
Streak,
lol, sorry about that it all happened so fast!

FDisk,
Yeah, that is exactly how I figured it until this mystery film showed up.  Smells like something funny is coming out of the skunk works.

-Sikboy
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: FDisk on March 20, 2002, 03:09:32 PM
Sikboy, I can only pry that this isn't a joke. I will never get tired for this game.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Apache on March 20, 2002, 03:11:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Gremlin
Apache,

Mind if i post some close up screenies minus the text buffer??
If anything we need to record the first ever spit14kill in AH?

It's definitely a new shape guys, long nose funny canopy.



Grem.


Of course Grem, go right ahead. Sorry, been busy.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: FDisk on March 20, 2002, 03:23:14 PM
W00T!!!

*peeing in pants*
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Airscrew on March 20, 2002, 03:43:26 PM
Pictures, yes pictures,  let me see, let me see, I'm dying here,  
I'm about to cancel bowling tonight so I can fly Spit14 bring it on.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Grayarea on March 20, 2002, 03:58:23 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Apache


Of course Grem, go right ahead. Sorry, been busy.


http://www.webtreatz.com/spit14_1.jpg
http://www.webtreatz.com/spit14_2.jpg

(http://www.btinternet.com/~nexx/56sig.gif)(http://www.btinternet.com/~nexx/2TAF.GIF)

Flight Lieutenant Grayarea.
Officer
56 (fiter) Squadron The "Firebirds"-RAF.
2nd Tactical Airforce.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Wmaker on March 20, 2002, 04:03:53 PM
Well, I guess it's official then. :)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Airscrew on March 20, 2002, 04:07:32 PM
Its Wednesday afternoon, kinda slow around HiTech Creations.
The camera pans the server room where HiTech and Pyro are sitting in lazy-boys drinking a beer.

HiTech: "Sure is slow today, hand me another beer Pyro"

Pyro: "Sure" Pyro rises slowly from the chair and walks over to the walkin cooler to get two more beers. In the process he trips over the extension cord for the servers. Pyro returns with the beers and passes one to HiTech.

HiTech: "Thanks, Say seems kinda quite in here all of a sudden"

Pyro: "yep" both look around and spot extension cord unplugged from wall socket and notice lights are out on servers.

HiTech takes a swallow a beer, " What do ya think?"

Pyro "About what?"

HiTech: "The server."

Pyro: "Ah just leave it unplugged for awhile, make em think we're loading that new spit14 you where flying last night. It'll get their panties all in a bunch."
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Fariz on March 20, 2002, 04:31:40 PM
If it is not a troll, then Spit 14 is coming in one of the next patches. Icons are stored on the local computer, if you see them, it means they are already in the code.

Fariz
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Doberman on March 20, 2002, 04:58:33 PM
Too bad we can't use the old WB Me-163 trick with the upcoming planes. :)

Anyone remember that?  What a treat for a few days. :)

I also remember hitching a ride with DETH as the 262 was tested in the WB MA for the first time.  Ahhh, we were so young then.

D
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Post by: moose on March 20, 2002, 06:38:52 PM
.plane 65
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: moose on March 20, 2002, 06:44:49 PM
i just saw hitech in it in the arena.

field 45, just for a sec. he spawned on the runway then exited. :)
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Post by: Kweassa on March 20, 2002, 07:58:05 PM
So, here's a dweeby question you've all been asking inside, but nobody had the guts to spill it out :D ...

 ...

 "Anybody who had an encounter with this Spit14 have idea on how it performed in turn category??" :)
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Post by: Viper17 on March 20, 2002, 08:03:57 PM
hmmm i wonder whats going on:confused: :confused: I looked up info on Spit14. looked just like those pics. my 110 named peppy is very sad now.
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Post by: Bluedog on March 20, 2002, 11:27:18 PM
Methinks a lot of folks are going to be supprised at how 'un-Spit-like' the XIV will most probably be.
Massive torque and a viscous stall will be a somewhat new experience for most Spit drivers wouldnt you say?
The opposite direction of prop rotation than the earlier Spits , combined with the abovementioned huge torque will no doubt make it a bit of a handfull to fly.
I'm not sayin' it wont be any good, just dont expect it to handle as sweetly as the earlier models, this Spit should be an entirely differant beast alltogether, undoubtably lethal in the right hands, but a far cry from a 'newbie ride'.
I'm betting the whines about it will be plenty.
Just my 2c

Blue
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Post by: Pongo on March 20, 2002, 11:36:23 PM
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Originally posted by Bluedog
Methinks a lot of folks are going to be supprised at how 'un-Spit-like' the XIV will most probably be.
Massive torque and a viscous stall will be a somewhat new experience for most Spit drivers wouldnt you say?
The opposite direction of prop rotation than the earlier Spits , combined with the abovementioned huge torque will no doubt make it a bit of a handfull to fly.
I'm not sayin' it wont be any good, just dont expect it to handle as sweetly as the earlier models, this Spit should be an entirely differant beast alltogether, undoubtably lethal in the right hands, but a far cry from a 'newbie ride'.
I'm betting the whines about it will be plenty.
Just my 2c

Blue


None of the many books I have on the spit support your contention. They say it handles like a Spit IX.
If they are correct then we have a plane that handles and packs the guns of a spit ix. But has the high alt level speed of a pony and the climb of a 109g10..
It will roll better then our spit IX though cause they all had clipped wings I think.
Interesting to see what it flies like. Probably a 100 point perk if Im correct. more like a 60-70 point perk if you are.
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Post by: Karnak on March 20, 2002, 11:51:02 PM
Pongo,

It will roll the same as our Mk IX.

It does not have clipped wings, as many Mk XIVs did not.

You're thinking of the bubble canopy Mk XIVs, of which most, or all, had clipped wings.  This is a razorback Mk XIV, the 1944 version.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Apache on March 21, 2002, 06:51:24 AM
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Originally posted by Grayarea


http://www.webtreatz.com/spit14_1.jpg
http://www.webtreatz.com/spit14_2.jpg

(http://www.btinternet.com/~nexx/56sig.gif)(http://www.btinternet.com/~nexx/2TAF.GIF)

Flight Lieutenant Grayarea.
Officer
56 (fiter) Squadron The "Firebirds"-RAF.
2nd Tactical Airforce.


See that mean ole spitV behind the 14? :D
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Gremlin on March 21, 2002, 06:53:32 AM
Gotta hand it to ya apache.  You well and truly waxed his ass, and in a spit v WTG.


Gremlin.
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Vermillion on March 21, 2002, 07:01:19 AM
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"Real men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly inlines


LOL!

actually... its "Real men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires!!" ;)

I'm glad my Sig line is remembered with such warmth.  I was sitting watching the movie "Cabin Boy" and drinking some beer, when they used a line that went "Real Men.... Nancy Boys... " and I thought it would be perfect for AH/WBs (I flew both at the time).

:D
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Post by: MANDOBLE on March 21, 2002, 07:09:16 AM
As far as I remember, HiTech had SpitXIV already modeled in WB. And its handling characteristics were very very different than SpitIX. I expect similar differences in the AH version.
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Post by: Apar on March 21, 2002, 07:17:34 AM
No where is that furball Lasz?  that doesn't look like a furball at all to me! Looks more like a squad gang bang on a poor Spit14!

:)
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Post by: Bluedog on March 21, 2002, 11:02:48 AM
Quote
Originally posted by MANDOBLE
As far as I remember, HiTech had SpitXIV already modeled in WB. And its handling characteristics were very very different than SpitIX. I expect similar differences in the AH version.


Pretty much what I based my statement on, with vague memories of reading in various places how one Spit pilot or another commented that they were an entirely differant beast.
Plus, higher weight, differant CoG, right hand spinning prop ( from pilots point of view), Griffon engined Spit's characteristic long nose etc.
I may be wrong of course, it's not unheard of, but I would be VERY suprised to find that the XIV handled as nicely as an IX.

What I REALLY want is a MkVIII, yes thats right, an 8, and no, it is not an earlier model than the IX.
In Aussie colours with the lettering CC R would be splendid :)

Blue
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Post by: Ripsnort on March 21, 2002, 11:09:47 AM
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Originally posted by Doberman
Too bad we can't use the old WB Me-163 trick with the upcoming planes. :)

Anyone remember that?  What a treat for a few days. :)

I also remember hitching a ride with DETH as the 262 was tested in the WB MA for the first time.  Ahhh, we were so young then.

D


Yeah, I remember shooting down one of those new 262's back then, he got greedy. :D
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Post by: moose on March 21, 2002, 11:48:40 AM
if you go run the stats on Apache vs HiTech,

Apache has 1 kills in a SpitV

HiTech shows *0* deaths in nothing!

weird!
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Soviet on March 21, 2002, 03:38:11 PM
well it's nice to see this plane, it better be perked from the get-go.  Knowing the main arenas fetish with the old scheissfeur this will kill the greatest online sim ever if it comes unperked.

A nice 20 perk price tag should set it well.
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Post by: MadBirdCZ on March 21, 2002, 05:58:59 PM
20 perks for something that is faster and can fly higher than Tempest? eee If the spit lovers want it so much they should pay the price :) 70 at least :D
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Post by: Karnak on March 21, 2002, 08:56:16 PM
MadBirdCZ,

Define: "faster".

At typical AH combat altitudes the Tempest is 25mph faster and climbs as well.  Only once you get over 20,000ft does the Spit 14 become faster than the Tempest.

The Yak-9U is faster than the Spit 14 at typical AH combat altitudes.

Of course, if it has the 150 octane, 25lbs boost of a Doodlebug chaser all bets are off.  I was descibing the standard 100 octane, 18lbs boost version.
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Post by: Mino on March 22, 2002, 02:51:38 AM
hmmm....

I might have to use of my stored up perkies soon!:)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: MadBirdCZ on March 22, 2002, 03:04:23 AM
Karnak:

Define 'typical' combat altitudes :)

If you mean deck then you are prolly right but when I fly the Tempest I do it at alts between 15-22k and its nothing rare to meet spits over 25k. And at those alts even Spit IX can be a pain not even mentioning XIV...

BUT! Lets wait until its out and the do the judging ok? ;)
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: Hooligan on March 22, 2002, 09:41:00 AM
Didn't the Spit XIV come to WB after the HTC crew left?

Hooligan
Title: Hacker caught on film
Post by: MadBirdCZ on March 22, 2002, 09:49:20 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Apar
No where is that furball Lasz?  that doesn't look like a furball at all to me! Looks more like a squad gang bang on a poor Spit14!

:)


:D But don't we see this already everytime some higher priced perk appears on the scene near the furball? Everytime I fly Tempest every red con breaks whatever he is doing and goes after me. Sometimes its even funy when you fly over enemy B-17 or lanc about 1.6k above him and the poor guy in the buff sprays all his ammo up into the sky in a desperate try to kill you although you have absolutely no interest in the buff. In situations like this I just roll inverted and watch the spraying buff and the spit, p51 or whatever green coming on him from his dead 6 and killing the buff while he was busy trying to kill the perkplane :D
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Post by: narsus on March 22, 2002, 09:58:05 AM
Not sure about that Hooligan, I think it was just before they left. Unfortunately that was many moons ago and my memory is getting worse than lazs'
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Post by: Wmaker on March 22, 2002, 10:18:43 AM
Spitfire XIV came out in 2.01 version of WarBirds. Last version Pyro/HT were involved was 2.5.