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Title: Name that derelict submarine.
Post by: Hobodog on March 20, 2002, 09:07:50 PM

(http://uboat.net/history/images/elbe2_u3505_3004_tim2.jpg)

Title: Name that derelict submarine.
Post by: brady on March 20, 2002, 11:01:43 PM

Type XXI

Title: Name that derelict submarine.
Post by: steely07 on March 21, 2002, 01:11:22 AM

Are they delta's?...i read that story a couple years ago,the subs had just been abandoned and their pen was collapsing,i beleive it has since collapsed,burying the boats :(

Title: Name that derelict submarine.
Post by: 8ball on March 21, 2002, 06:37:41 AM

What a waste of a good submarine..  If they are just gonna let them become trapped in their pens forever they could at least give them to me.

Title: Name that derelict submarine.
Post by: Puck on March 21, 2002, 07:49:18 AM

Look more like diesel boats.  I saw a couple Delta IIIs way back in '84 when I was (ahem) 12 miles off the coast of Kamchatka right across from the inlet to Petropovlosk.  Previous lifetime.

Seriously, you do _not_ want any of the old soviet nuc boats.  Of course if someone wanted to give me one of the 637s rather than scrapping them I'd be first in line.   Heck, I'd even take a 593 boat, though when I was on the 594 (Ballast Pt. sub base back in '80) there were baggies taped in the overhead to collect leaking hydraulic fluid.

For the record I was a Navy nuc for 6 years.  I'd rather have been an aviator, but there was this thing about my vision  :(

Title: Name that derelict submarine.
Post by: Hortlund on March 21, 2002, 08:15:31 AM

Those look way to small to be anything other than some kind of mini-sub. Look at the guys climbing over it. A Delta would be 10 times that size. Same goes for the XXI (not 10 times though, but you get the idea). If they are wwii, then my guess would be German type XXIII. Impossible (at least for me) to tell without the tower though.

Title: Name that derelict submarine.
Post by: Staga on March 21, 2002, 08:33:59 AM

hmm I believe pic was taken in a collapsed german ww2 submarine shelter in somewhere where DDR used to be AFAIR. Trying to find more info...

Title: Name that derelict submarine.
Post by: Staga on March 21, 2002, 08:38:32 AM

Almost correct: Shelter was near Hamburg:
http://uboat.net/history/hamburg_elbe2.htm

Title: Bingo
Post by: Hobodog on March 21, 2002, 03:53:09 PM

Staga has it. They are 2 XXIs being built and one near completion. The pen was blown by the british. But incompetent as they all are they just couldnt blow it up. Of course the dynamite was probably french. But the Elbe River II pens were then left unkbenownst to anyone till 1985 when as i recall a city official asked about it and went to inspect it found its contents and thus they were rediscovered. They were not fitted out or fully built and were underwater during high tide and most of winter every year. A couple years ago after all the usefull pieces to museums were excavated the place took two more tries before it was successfully destroyed and has since been gravelled over.