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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: VWE001 on March 27, 2002, 09:02:19 AM

Title: HiTech truely hates silly spitties
Post by: VWE001 on March 27, 2002, 09:02:19 AM
I took the Mk. XIV up for a spin last night because it is the new kid on the block. After climbing up to 14k I saw a P-47 below and behind me at 4.5k and diving. I did a split S and hit WEP and gave chase. 2k is as close as I could get, as now we were both on the deck and the -47 was slowly pulling away. Thankfully an La-7 over took me and closed in for the kill, making the -47 take evasive action. I was able to pull inside said -47 and get off a short 90 degree deflection shot. Yes I did get the kill, yes the 14 is manuverable, is it worth 60 perkies? My answer is H-E-C-K noooo, but you be the judge. I'm just happy AH now has something for silly spitties to aspire to and for the rest of us to be able to get that occasional extra bonus perky kill flyin regular ol' non-perked iron. :D
Title: HiTech truely hates silly spitties
Post by: Replicant on March 27, 2002, 01:37:07 PM
I've done some offline testing with the Spitfire 14 and the results I got are reflected in your post.  Lowish alt dive, from a speed of 200-250 mph (which could indicate exiting a dogfight) showed that the dive and extend was much slower than other planes, such as the La7.  Therefore if you're in a Spitfire 14 and you want to runaway when you lose the advantage then you better think twice!!!  :)

Regards

Nexx

PS  Funked, wanna come back and do some much needed testing???  :)
Title: HiTech truely hates silly spitties
Post by: Wilbus on March 27, 2002, 01:48:06 PM
many of the planes are too expensive. Ta152 and F4u to mention two, Tempest aswell although not that much.

Spit 14 is good, it must be perked but maybe a bit lower price.
Title: HiTech truely hates silly spitties
Post by: J_A_B on March 27, 2002, 02:03:03 PM
A spit 14 should think about running UP.    


J_A_B
Title: HiTech truely hates silly spitties
Post by: Doberman on March 27, 2002, 02:08:26 PM
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HiTech truely hates silly spitties


As all good men do.

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Title: HiTech truely hates silly spitties
Post by: hitech on March 27, 2002, 02:29:03 PM
I Just hate titles like this, they tend to be believed next thing you know im quoted by your title.

You could at ther very minimum make it a question wrather than a totaly untrue statement of fact.
Title: HiTech truely hates silly spitties
Post by: Swoop on March 27, 2002, 02:52:31 PM
Prove him wrong HT!  


Model another 6 spit variants!



No?   ok.


:D

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P.S.  Where's funked when ya need him?
Title: HiTech truely hates silly spitties
Post by: Ripsnort on March 27, 2002, 03:03:54 PM
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Originally posted by Swoop
Prove him wrong HT!  


Model another 6 spit variants!



No?   ok.


:D

(http://www.swoop.com/images/logo_small.jpg)

P.S.  Where's funked when ya need him?


That would be right AFTER he does the entire US Navy fleet of aircraft, cause ya know HiTech just LOVES Big Blue! ;)
Title: HiTech truely hates silly spitties
Post by: GRUNHERZ on March 27, 2002, 03:31:03 PM
Dont have any any misconceptions about Spit XIV dive acceleration.

British tests showed even the lowly slow Bf109G6 easily out diving the Spit XIV until very very high speeds only then the Spitfire began to close.

I have no doubt that P47D will easily outaccel your Spitfire XIV in a dive.
Title: HiTech truely hates silly spitties
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 27, 2002, 04:10:50 PM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ

I have no doubt that P47D will easily outaccel your Spitfire XIV in a dive.


Any LW plane, especially the 109s will outaccel the P47 in a dive:(

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Title: HiTech truely hates silly spitties
Post by: Staga on March 27, 2002, 04:43:32 PM
That really hurts doesn't it Frenchy :)
Title: HiTech truely hates silly spitties
Post by: Wilbus on March 27, 2002, 04:44:17 PM
We flying Different sims Frenchy?

P47 accel is not really good, but don't try and come and say that every LW plane out accels it, cause they don't :)

P47 accel seems way too bad though judging from pilot statements.
Title: HiTech truely hates silly spitties
Post by: Karnak on March 27, 2002, 07:34:32 PM
GRUNHERZ,

Here is what the Brits said about the G-6, Spit 14 dive (and they don't note starting speed or altitude):

Dive
46. During the initial part of the dive, the Me.109G pulls away slightly, but when a speed of 380 m.p.h. is reached, the Spitfire XIV begins to gain on the Me.109G.


That doesn't sound like "easily, until very high speeds are reached".

It sounds like "Slightly widens separation, but is shortly being overtaken and cannot excape".

Now, the Fw190 dives well enough to escape.