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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Urchin on March 28, 2002, 05:31:38 PM
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LOVE IT! It is kinda nice to be able to see how you stack up against everyone in each individual category. Great job on that!
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Recamped?
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revamped....
for each stat (ie gun accuracy, k/d ratio, k/s ratio) they give a rank.. very nice..
I'd love to see some multi-tour trending graphs...
I'm a DB developer, does anyone know if hitech's stat db is open to the public?
ka
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Definately a nice addition.
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LOL, now is even more clear that ranks are hilarious.
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Originally posted by MANDOBLE
LOL, now is even more clear that ranks are hilarious.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48905
Its the only way to get into the top spot.
AKDejaVu
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Hilareous my ass!
I've got the #1 hit percentage for CT tour #4 baby! So's I must be a mean mother in there. :)
It's all about the ranking!
D
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What is the relation between base catures and fighter rank?? If you look at the ranks you wont stop laughting in an hour.
Yep, HTC may improve the page, even adding flowers and some 80's popular song, but calculations were and are wrong.
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The top few are the "not in the system" scores. The guys with some serious flight time, worse individual rankings and still all holding top spots have a base capture under their fighter stats. If you don't.. you can take all your scores and then add the "tied for xxxx" that not having a base capture would get you .
AKDejaVu
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BTW.. there is a bug with the rankings page. It comes up listing CT Tour 4 stats... though it says Tour 26. Click on "Get Ranks" again to get a proper Tour 26 list.
AKDejaVu
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I think you should look again at the pilot score page theres no way to score a field capture in the fight rank. There are only 5 categories that make fighter rank. Field capture aint one of them. The fighter score is on the top right vrs enemies.
Under that is buffs. Buff rank is made up from the 5 categories vrs objs and field capture is included.
The attack rank center column is made up of 10 categories 5 vrs enemy 5 vrs obj. Field capture is one of the categories. I had thought you may have meant the attack category until I checked the top 5 in attack 3 had 1 field capture recorded in the attack category. 1 hardly equated to score whoring. Who are these guys at the top fighter or attack ranks that use field capture in that fashion. 1 capture in attack could eassily be explained. The guy could of augered been killed or .efluffied and grabbed a jabo to go take care of a ground threat.
Either way you are quite wrong to claim
The top few are the "not in the system" scores. The guys with some serious flight time, worse individual rankings and still all holding top spots have a base capture under their fighter stats. If you don't.. you can take all your scores and then add the "tied for xxxx" that not having a base capture would get you .
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Originally posted by Wotan
I think you should look again at the pilot score page theres no way to score a field capture in the fight rank. There are only 5 categories that make fighter rank. Field capture aint one of them. The fighter score is on the top right vrs enemies.
as much as i hate to point this out.... :rolleyes:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48905
read slowly.
read again.
:)
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theres no where to put a field capture under fighter score look at the image above. where does the field capture go in fighter rank?
If you release troops and exit before a capture, then replane in a fighter on a fighter mission, you will receive credit for the capture as a fighter on a fighter mission.
This statistic IS tracked under the fighter rankings. Seems it shouldn't be too difficult to have that excluded.
it is not tracked under fighter rankings the only place this would work is under attack ranks......
Air Categories
Kills per Death
Kills per Sortie
Kills per Time
Hit percentage
Air points
thats all that matter for fighter rank theres no "field capture" categor to "track".
In attack
Air Categories
Kills per Death
Kills per Sortie
Kills per Time
Hit percentage
Air points
Ground Categories
Damage per Death
Damage per Sortie
Bombing percentage
Ground points
Field captures
Field captures count and are tracked. So if you exit the goon after the troops are out up a fighter in attack mode it will score in attack.
The question then becomes who is the folks working this bug to advance their attack rank.
If you exit a goon then up a fighter in fighter mode there is no place in the 5 fighter rank categories to score it. So theres no one with a high fighter rank that got it by using this bug.
Unless you know where or how else it would be scored.
Thers all sorts of score bugs you can up an m16 at a vbase hanger turn around and unload you ammo into your own hanger and your gv hit percentage vrs enemies goes way up. Same with up a mossie in attack then turning its guns on its own hanger and unloading.
in fighters to determine your rank simply add the your rank in each of the 5 air cartegories (vrs enemy) together and if the total is the lowest you rank 1 st if its the highest you rank last. Thats it no field capture included.
in attack add the 10 categories (including the field capture category).
in buffs add just the 5 ground (vrs objects) catagories together
and gvs add the 10 air and ground (vrs enemy and ground)
I dunno what lightbuld you are looking for but thats how it works
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clearly the fighter ranks are screwed up from a quick look at the top 10.
are you saying that the 5 ground (vrs obj) are factored in to fighter rank but are not shown on the score page?
if so how do you know that its field capture and not any of the other ground (vrs obj) categories that are skewing the ranks.
tomorrow I will a controled test. I and 1 at a time cycle through the 5 ground (vrs object) categories.
I will kill a structure in figher mode and wait a bit and check rank record it then do the exit goon grab fighter and then wait a bit and recheck rank.
Unless someone has already done this. If so please post results to save some time.
That would equate to proof. I mean for all we know there could be any number of problems related to rank.
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dunno how deja reached the conclusion, i just noticed his phrase, "**invisible** fighter captures rears it ugly head" and since he's THE stat weenie, i'll go with his assessment on this issue. :eek: :D
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edited my post above yours clearly testing needs to be done to varify where the "bug" is.
if its invisible how do ya see it :)
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ask deja, he lives and breathes this stuff and had/has access to data dumps.
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This is something I know for a fact. I've tested it and proven it.
If you release your troops, then replane in a fighter (as fighter sortie)... the capture will be tracked and recorded. It simply is not displayed on the score page. The same procedure is used for getting captures under an attack sortie... though that one is shown simply because attack sorties track object damage and the capture row is shown there.
That is how many people with only average scores manage to stay in the top 10 of fighter ranks (and attack ranks).
I haven't tested object damage under a fighter sortie because that is much more subtle and difficult to show conclusively... but it could have the same type of impact.
AKDejaVu
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"votan, veee must vork und zee marksmanship..."
;)
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I have a question. Perhaps it is a stupid question, but it has me sort of confused.
I was under the impression that to get your rank (in a certain category) you took all the sub-categories, added up your place in them, and the lowest overall number would be ranked number 1, say for fighters. I don't think that is the case, or if it is then something is terribly wrong with the ranking system because that doesn't seem to work. Ok, I'm a score potato, I admit it. Actually, I just think it is a really cool way to keep track of improvement, along with how you stand beside your peers. I was checking my score tonight (#12 overall, WTG me! :D )- and I came across some , well, odd things.
For the Fighter category, I am ranked #51. The first place guy is, as of the moment I checked it, a fellow named "Rotty". I checked each subcategory ranking (since it is there now :)), and something wierd comes up. I don't think this guy should be ranked number 1.
Me: ranked 51st
Kills / Deaths + 1: 3.1484 (101)
Kills / Sorties: 1.8769 (82)
Kills / Time online: 0.0016 (393)
Hit percentage: 14.92% (38)
Points: 24733.9429 (182)
I understand my stats are not particularly spectacular, I'm posting them to compare them with the number 1 spot.
Rotty: Ranked 1st
Kills / Deaths + 1: 2.1944 (218)
Kills / Sorties: 1.4630 (176)
Kills / Time online: 0.0014 (603)
Hit percentage: 9.16% (238)
Points: 61028.4404 (15)
If we did it the way I thought it was done, his 'total' comes up to 1,250. My total comes up to 796. Shouldn't I be ranked ahead of him since the 'total' of my ranks is lower than the total of his ranks? Is this where that base capture bug comes into play at?
Make sure I have everything right, I read that in another post a while back (how the scoring was calculated), so I may have messed it up. It is kinda puzzling though.
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Originally posted by Urchin
Rotty: Ranked 1st
Kills / Deaths + 1: 2.1944 (218)
Kills / Sorties: 1.4630 (176)
Kills / Time online: 0.0014 (603)
Hit percentage: 9.16% (238)
Points: 61028.4404 (15)
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yeah i wonder how in heck that score can be ranked as nr. 1 ?
airguard
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Thats what Dejavu is saying that these folks maintain their rank by getting field captures in fighters by droppin troops the exiting and upping a fighter. That way when the troops enter the map room the "captured is scored to the fighter category.
Even though it doesn't show up on the score page it is factored in.
So instead of just the 5 visible air score (vrs enemy) theres is really 6 or possible 10 if the the 5 ground scores are factored in. Even though they dont show.
So a guy with real toejamty scores in the 5 visible categories uses "field capture" to keep his rank high. And maybe the other vrs object categories as well.
Thats why I guy with the scores like fester arent number 1 and someone like rotty are.
I hardly believed it myself. I wonder if bomber score includes 6 hidin categories..........?
Good find I had seen the ranks were screwy for sometime and even though I had a good grasp as to how they are supposed to work I never would have thought this was the case.
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Again, HT knows about the problem with "hidden" captures, and posted that it will be fixed.
I think they are probably waiting for the start of the next tour to do this.
Fariz
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If this is relally related to fighter field captures, it would be very easy to set to 0 all players captures in fighter category.
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LOL I have always been staying at a filed with goone or m3 so im sure i get the perks for a capture when bringing troops.
That has also killed me somtime.
How lame just ef. and pick a plane and get the perkis anyway grrr.
airguard